Were you hurt by Cedu running springs and how do you deal wi

[Anonymous]

they knew they were messing with heads that is how sick they are. they would even say so. all they cared about was covering their asses so the cops would not arrest them. they would twist everything around so that the kid would be blamed and they would lie to all.  How many of those friends they said they were dd they end up being. they were abusive assholes and sadistic sociopaths who would con people the could take advantage of so they could spoil themselves. somebody say what they thought of them and what redemming social value they have.

[Anonymous]

I am less than 24 hours from driving my ODD daughter to CEDU High School, please I need the truth about this place and alternatives.  I am sick reading these posts, but I am also searching for help for my child.  Please respond asap. Thanks

[**PIXIE DUST**]

there are better places out there to send your child.  CEDU is NOT the right place for anyone!  please trust me on that!  DO NOT SEND HER THERE!  like it's been said before, you will cause her more damage by sending her there then by doing something else.  sending kids away doesn't (in my eyes) work.  when i got sent to BCA, i thought to myself, do my parents really hate me that much??  what did i do that was so bad that they wanted me out of their lives?  PLEASE PLEASE, i'm begging you, please consider your options before you decide to send her to CEDU!

[Antigen]

Opposition and Defiance are not a disorder. Instead of dropping your kid off w/ strangers who promise to cure her nonexistant disease, take that same money and take her anywhere she wants to go with you, for a vacation. Hawaii's nice any time of year. Fall colors are approaching in the NorthEast. Go hiking for a couple of weeks. See if you can find out what she's so pissed off about and give her some advice on better ways to respond.

Anything but forced thought reform.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has.
-- Margaret Mead

[Deborah]

Underneath every undesirable behavior is an unmet need.  Physiological needs, need for security,  need to belong and feel loved, need to feel worthy and valued.

Sending your child to strangers to 'fix' for you, may not render the results you are hoping for. You should read up on Behavior Modification and thoroughly research the methods employed by any program, and don't just ask the owner. Ask those who've been there.

Why programs (Behavior Modification) don't work:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... &forum=9&6

The fact that your daughter has been fraudulently labeled ODD tells me that she still has some hope, some fight left in her. Much better than apathy and hopelessness. Help her find her lost passion. Inspire her to create a plan for herself regarding education and her future. Ask how you can help. Listen more than you talk.

[Son Of Serbia]

Don't send your daughter to Cedu, all they will do is abuse your daughter and steal your money. Abandoning your daughter to the hands of these very corrupt people, will not solve whatever problems you have with her.  It will only remove her from the environment.  When she leaves Cedu the problems will still be there, only now they will be multiplied by her resentment towards being sent away and treated inhumanely like some sub-human piece of shit for two years.  Please accept my word for it, Cedu will do much more harm than good.

If you truly feel that a boarding school is the only answer, then allow me to recommend one to you:

Rock Point School, in Burlington, Vermont.  Contact: John Rouleau, Headmaster.  Rock Point has it's own website... I believe the address is http://www.rockpoint.org

I attended Rock Point for 2 years after I left Cedu, and graduated from there.  I absolutely loved it there, even more so than college!

  It is a NOT FOR PROFIT school set up to help students who have had difficulty in other school environments. The school has a vast and beautiful campus located on Lake Champlain. They even have their own beach.

 There is no emotional growth brainwashing involved.  Kids are treated like human beings at Rock Point, and allowed to lead normal lives.  

The staff there are extremely caring, ALL OF THEM are qualified and have degrees from accredited colleges. Individual instruction is offered and made readily available to students who have academic difficulties.

 Kids are allowed to leave campus after school, go to town, have boyfriends and girl friends, play sports,listen to music, have their own computers, watch TV, and have their own social lives.  The school has field trips to other cities, camping trips, trips to the movies, trips to concerts, museums, plenty of outlets for your daughter to get out and have some positive fun.

Your daughter will be allowed to come home for the summer + have 4 scheaduled vacation trips home during the school year.  

Kids are taught the value of responsibilty, and are awarded additional privleges based on their accomplishments.  The school allows students to have internships at a variety of local businesses including radio and television stations.  Students can also have part time jobs if they wish, provided that they are meeting their academic responsibilities.  

The school will readily drive students to AA or NA meetings, If thats what they want (it's completely voluntary of course).  You can also make arrangements to have your daughter visit a psychologist in Burlington once a week, if it's what she wants.

And the Best Part,  the schools tuition is $16,000 per year, less than a 3rd of the cost of cedu.  

If your mind is set on sending your daughter away to school, at least send her to a good one , where she will be well educated and prepared for college, treated with kindness, have lots of fun, and be allowed to be herself.
Most of all Rock Point School does NOT alienate kids from their friends and family.
 
If you wish to discuss any of this with me, you can email me at rado6476@aol.com

Whatever you do, DO NOT SEND YOUR DAUGHTER TO ANY CEDU SCHOOL!  You will only be wasting your money!


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[Anonymous]

The ONLY place I would recommend, if you have no other options, is Yellowstone Boys and Girls Ranch. They are in Montana. Don't take her to CEDU. Yellowstone is a real school and truly therapeutic. The other places that I'm aware of are inappropriate, and have a big "in your face" technique. Also, don't ever send her to a boot camp kind of place. They make kids worse. Yellowstone is the only place I know of that does not leave the kids with nightmares.

On 2004-09-21 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am less than 24 hours from driving my ODD daughter to CEDU High School, please I need the truth about this place and alternatives.  I am sick reading these posts, but I am also searching for help for my child.  Please respond asap. Thanks"

[shanlea]

Listen to everyone re: CEDU and other TBS. Read our stories. I'm on the fence about ODD diagnoses but I will say this--CEDU et al will only exacerbate the problem, turn her into a bully, and finally break her--and not in a good way. If you need to send her away because you can't do it on your own or the boat has already slipped the port, then find a place that works with her strengths and does not elevate her problems.

SOS: Thanks for recommending a good place; I've been wondering about that.  I wondered if they even existed and its important to me that kids get help when they really need it. (As a last ditch.)  How did you end up there?

[Son Of Serbia]

How I ended up at Rock Point School is a long and somewhat fun story to tell, unfortunately I don't have the time right now.  In a nutshell, I chose to go there myself, after hearing about the school and speaking to some of the staff there.  

Rock Point School really is a wonderful place, and I learned sooo much there.  I had a lot of fun too.  Rock Point is one school that actually DOES prepare kids for being successful in the real world, and might I add that they do a splendid job of it.

Shanlea please don't get the idea that I'm blowing you off, I will get around to telling you this part of my story as soon as I have the time.

[Son Of Serbia]

If you are still checking in on this site, please update us as to where you stand now in regards to your daughter.  I have not received an email from you:  rado6476@aol.com, please rest assured that I will be happy to speak with you and answer any questions you have regarding the school that I recommended to you.  

Even if your daughter is already at cedu, please let us know. Remember that it is never too late to change your mind, pull your daughter out, and reverse the damage that Cedu has done to her.

I sincerely wish the best for you and your family, please respond and let us all know how you are doing.



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[Son Of Serbia]

I received an email from the anonymous parent who posted here that she was considering sending her daughter to Cedu.  

The mother that posted here, did not send her daughter to cedu after all.  Instead her daughter is now attending a college prep school in Arizona.

She describes the school as:
"not theraputic, but deals with defiance with a common sense approach. No abuse, or in your face humiliation.  She seems happy so far, and she can come home for vacations, dr. appts, anything! Just like it should be. Thanks."
(direct quote from the email)

I want to congratulate this parent for her courage, and for respecting her daughters right to figure out who she is on her own, without being isolated and programmed.  I truly believe that your daughter will thank you for this later.

I also want to congratulate all of you, for your posts and for sharing your personal experiences here.  It feels so good to know that we can and do make a difference!  Cheers! ::cheers::  

.[ This Message was edited by: SON OF SERBIA on 2004-10-02 07:41 ]

[blownawaytheidahoway]

That is really good news. thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous]

I have heard horror stories about Cedu.  As a mental health professional, I would discourage placing anyone you care for in that facility.  I recommend that you speak to Social Workers in your area that might be able to provide you with more appropriate treatment alternatives.  One thing is certain, for ODD, you need really firm boundaries and rules.  Be consistent and don't forget to make consequences appropriate.  Also, don't forget to put a reward/positive reinforcement schedule so that he/she doesn't view you as unfair.

[Anonymous]

There is an excellent book for ODD, "Back in Control" by Gregory Bodenhammer. He wrote a sequel, as well. I always recommend his books to parents having these problems. Also, "How to Talk so Kids Will Listen and Listen so Kids Will Talk" is outstanding. This is not aimmed at kids with ODD specifically, but is outstanding for all relationships.

[blownawaytheidahoway]

I was remembering something the other day. Rewards at CEDU came totally randomly. I read recently that random rewards is one more way that Behavior Modification was used at CEDU. Rewards and punishments were often doled out for almost no reason.
I used to think I had made it to the end of a rap without getting blasted. I carefully balanced the routine of getting a few words in edgewise to whomever had the fire under their chair while not saying anything profound and 'projecting' too much to have the rap/indictment flipped on me. But then alas. The Counselor/facilitator would look at their watch and actually say, " I guess we got time for one more" and would have me get up and switch chairs so He/she could scream in my face so I would feel peachy keen through the rest of the night and dinner. And sometimes I know it was just because some very deep part of me that I could not cover up HATED it so FUCKING much for so long until I was under the spell, shone out to staff like a lit up Blimp exclaiming "FUCK YOU"!But to get back to my thought, I would often think I was going to get out of some raps intact only at the last moment to be confronted for no real reason.
It was not quite so often that I was being punished one day and rewarded the next though I really thought I was going to have more work details and instead got to go skiing in the afternoon. It's a tool. I recognize this now, but I am surprised that I hadn't earlier noticed it for what it was. Confuse and bribe.
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