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Offline Anonymous

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2004, 06:52:00 PM »
Oh sure...
 And I'm sure that the parents of 5 teens/early 20's kids that DIED a couple weeks ago from a "drug cocktail" in central FL. are SO gald they didn't over-react and DO something to help their kids (who felt they needed drugs to get through life).
 AT what point would you go to "whatever it takes" methods to help YOUR OWN children?  I'm sure that STRAIGHT was not your parents FIRST attempt to address your "normal" behavior as a teen.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2004, 08:56:00 PM »
You're mistaken. My parents were sold on the Program, hook line and sinker, for nearly 10 years before they angled me into Straight.

Those kids who died from street drugs would not have had street drugs if it were not for these abstinance freaks who insist that the black market is worth the cost of making them feel all glowing about doing something about what they have decided is the root of all evil.

In other words, if drugs were legal and given only the attention they warrant (like alcohol) we wouldn't have street drugs (i.e. bathtub gin), drug gangs (Al Capone), gang violence (Valentines Day massacre)

That's why I care so much about this issue. It's got nothing to do w/ what happened to my family 20 years ago. That's water under the bridge, and a personal matter at that. It's that these sadistic lunatics are causing a whole lot of problems that effect me and mine. And I don't want their help! I've had all the help I can stand, thanks, really! Just do me a favor. Quit helping so damned much?
 

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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2004, 09:20:00 PM »
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On 2004-09-04 14:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

Parents need to take an interest FROM THE START. Not just send their kids off somewhere to be fixed when the kids behavior gets too out of hand.


I think parents also need to turn the Ad Council's advice upside down and not draw a line in the sand. Kids rebel against what we tell them we want them to do. Part of good parenting is having the guts to say "Ok, try it your way", the wisdom to know when and the integrity to suck it up when it turns out the kid was right and you were wrong.

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2004, 09:07:00 AM »
Okay, so drug list before

Pot
Acid
X
Freeon
Scotchguard
liquid paper (questionable)

After

Pot
Acid
X
"inhalants"
uppers
downers
crack
cocaine    (these three aall lumped together cause I had a doubt)
pcp
crystal


I would also like to amend the topic to say drug list after intake.

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2004, 12:25:00 AM »
OK, Before:

Alcohol
Mary-Wanna
Hash (shouldn't that just fall under pot?) :grin:
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2004, 03:04:00 AM »
:smile:
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2004, 12:14:00 PM »
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On 2004-09-04 13:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-09-04 10:27:00, Anonymous wrote:


"28 shots?? At 14?? That would have killed you..."


well I was actually 16... impressing the friends with how much I could drink..."


What else did you "exaggerate"?  C'mon, GET HONEST!  

You're an idiot if you think you were helped by the program you attended.  Quit buying into their brainwashing bullshit.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2004, 12:28:00 PM »
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On 2004-09-03 08:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-09-03 06:39:00, Scarstruck wrote
  not gonna post an oooh ahh look what I ingested list



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Damn son.  That's most of what you do here.  post what a bigger badder drug user you were than the rest of us. :roll:  :roll:  :roll: Well, that and inane song lyrics. :roll: "




 Hmm I havent posted anything about my drug use in 6 months or more and when I did it was for a reason, I wont be judged by an anon coward.Im sorry if my stories made you feel like you were a fake AA addict. Dont cha have a meeting to go to?
 Oh, and anything I post or say is of utmost importance and hardly innane. You are just one of the many "profane" zombies that cannot comprehend my purpose.

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2004, 10:37:00 PM »
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"Abnnormal" behavior before straight
occassional school skipping
experimentation with pot
experimentation with alcohol
premarital sex(once)
rebellious attitude

"Normal" behavior after straight

all or none thinking/acting
hyper vulnerability covered by invulnerability
isolation/inability to trust
Inability to trust professional caregivers-Doctors, dentists, counselors, therapists
emotional shutdown/numbness-emotions are overwhelming
high tolerance  for physical/emotional pain
Inability to recognize inappropriate behavior of self or others
disocciative episodes
compulsive behaviors( working,drinking,eating,shopping, sex)that attempted to overcome feelings of powerlessness, anxiety, fear and anger.
depression

and  I'm one of the "successful" graduates.

Anon it sounds like you weren't on the same straight diet of pb&j, humiliation & brainwashing that some of us were. Same kool-aid though.

p.s. you've had enough.

How about a song!

Who's next?  Come on! Motivate! Who REALLY wants to talk!
Get off  your lazy ASSES!

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On 2004-09-03 18:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh, to the contrary



  I did have a problem.  Lousy attitude, skippin' school, sneaking out of the house overnight, lying, stealing, forging, failing school ... 28 shots of vodka one day when I skipped school.

  If this is NORMAL behavior, I don't want to be normal.

  I did not experience any abuse in the program, only direction, support and long-term friends I still have today.

  I know I differ than most of you, but face it.  Not everyone experiences the same things.  Sorry you didn't have a better experience."
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2004, 11:44:00 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2004, 11:55:00 PM »
nope
Wasn't in STRAIGHT, but a program that was a "take off" - so must have been minus the abuse and bs.  We used the steps, similar rules, phases, etc. I choose get something out of the experience and make it work for me.  Sorry if that makes you all uptight and angry.
I did not have all the post-program trauma many of you claim to have had.  I went on to finish school, work, enjoyed my young adulthood without the need for drugs, alcohol or other vices, no run-in's with the law, married at 31 and have children now... work, involved in my community, and have returned to school.
Was made aware of this site by an old friend who found it, trying to locate other old friends from the program we were in.
WOW.  Much different programs.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2004, 09:46:00 AM »
So many of us didn't, it's nice to hear when someone did not feel abused, and/or neglected. :smile:

What program were you in, Anonymous?

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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2004, 12:03:00 PM »
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"Abnnormal" behavior before straight

occassional school skipping

experimentation with pot

experimentation with alcohol

premarital sex(once)

rebellious attitude



"Normal" behavior after straight



all or none thinking/acting

hyper vulnerability covered by invulnerability

isolation/inability to trust

Inability to trust professional caregivers-Doctors, dentists, counselors, therapists

emotional shutdown/numbness-emotions are overwhelming

high tolerance  for physical/emotional pain

Inability to recognize inappropriate behavior of self or others

disocciative episodes

compulsive behaviors( working,drinking,eating,shopping, sex)that attempted to overcome feelings of powerlessness, anxiety, fear and anger.

depression



and  I'm one of the "successful" graduates.



Anon it sounds like you weren't on the same straight diet of pb&j, humiliation & brainwashing that some of us were. Same kool-aid though.



p.s. you've had enough.



How about a song!



Who's next?  Come on! Motivate! Who REALLY wants to talk!

Get off  your lazy ASSES!



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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2004, 02:01:00 PM »
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On 2004-09-05 06:07:00, Carmel wrote:

"Okay, so drug list before



Pot

Acid

X

Freeon

Scotchguard

liquid paper (questionable)



After



Pot

Acid

X

"inhalants"

uppers

downers

crack

cocaine    (these three aall lumped together cause I had a doubt)

pcp

crystal





I would also like to amend the topic to say drug list after intake.




Oh no did they get onto you about liquid paper? (I was in Dallas too) I think I got yelled at to admit that I was addicted to inhaling liquid paper every day for probably 2 months. I will never forget that. It just went on and on and on. I had never done it, but by the time I got out I wasn't so sure. They also were trying to get me to admit that I was addicted to cocaine and that my father sexually abused me, neither one had happened either. But for some reason they really focused on liquid paper, it seems so ridiculous now. [ This Message was edited by: jane on 2004-09-08 11:03 ]
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2004, 02:35:00 PM »
You can freebase liquid paper.  It's great-- it gets you really high.  Put a few grains of salt and some hydrogen peroxide in the bottle, then microwave it for about 20 seconds.  Then you can brush it on the inside of a pipe (glass works best) and inhale the vapors.  You get an incredible rush and you stay high for a couple of minutes-- kind of like nitrous oxide, but without the headaches.
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