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« on: August 03, 2004, 01:37:00 PM »
Did anyone else ever find it odd that, while they would not allow us to read a cereal box or wipe our butt without asking permission, we were allowed - encouraged, really - to SWEAR our ASSES off?

I just thought it was weird that the one thing they didn't try to discipline us about was basic human manners and politeness. I guess it was the one thing we could do to vent. We couldn't smoke a joint of have sex, but man we could say FUCK at the top of our lungs all day long and it was OK.

Just thought it was weird.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »
We were not allowed to cuss. We had to invent ridiculous phrases to cover what should have been a cuss word like: "I saw you rocking out during morning rap you think your a billy bad stick...this stuff is not funny you are gonna die man"
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2004, 03:33:00 PM »
Wow, were you in STRAIGHT? I must have heard all the "big ones" a thousand times a day in 1985, and I'm hardly exaggerating. But we could NOT use the word "man" in the manner you used above. HAHA! What a bunch of garbage.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2004, 03:34:00 PM »
"Billy Bad Stick?"

That's so stupid it's hilarious.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2004, 05:43:00 PM »
Yes, I thought it was really strange.  But I did realize that I wasn't going to move off of first phase until I learned to cuss like a sailor.  I kept being told I was "putting off" as "sweet and innocent" or "intellectual"  or that I thought I didn't belong there (which was true)because I thought I was better than everyone else (which was not true).  I listened and observed some more and realized that a filthy mouth was what I was missing.  But never once did I dare say "maaaan" or "coooool" that would have been too druggy.  They taught me how to cuss.

Isn't it funny when a parent would complain about the hours we had to keep or the language staff was using, exec. staff always said, "what you don't think your druggy kids ever stayed out late or cussed?"  Which meant the language and hours we kept were acceptable because they were relating to us as "druggies" but in group we were told to shed everything from our "druggie pasts"
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2004, 06:08:00 PM »
Ever get the feeling they were intentionally trying to encourage us to think about suicide?

All part of the mindfuck.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2004, 06:13:00 PM »
My parents were very religious and didn't swear at all. I don't know that my mother ever even heard some of those words before. Yet somehow my learning to swear a blue streak was acceptable. Crazy to be singing zippity doo dah while someone was being restrained and then listening to the staff call someone a selfish ungrateful fucked up little bitch. how many times did I hear or even tell somebody they were full of shit.

I'm amazed there was a straight that  didn't allow swearing. It was mandatory in St Pete in the early 80's.

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 12:57:00 AM »
As far as Atlanta in the late 80's and beyond, the only people allowed to cuss were staff members. Phasers including 5th phase staff trainees couldn't cuss until they graduated and/or made staff.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2004, 10:18:00 AM »
:lol: OH.  That's kind of funny.  It's like cussing in Atlanta in the late 80's was a privledge you had to earn. You couldn't cuss on your phases but you could on staff or as a graduate.  And they were to be our "Straight examples"  How screwy do these people who ran straight get???
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 10:33:00 AM »
Things were definately more liberal in St. Pete, 'far as cussing.  We could and did cuss like crazy.   Also, for a while we could smoke in group.  Rule was ". . . people 18 and over can smoke in group"  1 cig per hour and we could light up if a staff member did.   I rembember sucking on butts trying to get 'em going again to get a tobacco hit.   Never was very successful at getting them going again.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »
Same with Boston - we were not allowed to swear - back in '85 we were - until we sang "Dead Fuckin' Moose" and that song as well as swearing were banned -

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2004, 01:11:00 PM »
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"Ever get the feeling they were intentionally trying to encourage us to think about suicide?



All part of the mindfuck.

A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady.


--Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)


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Yeah, and sadly for many of us, we left Straight suicidal and/or self destrucive.

the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2004, 04:05:00 PM »
Yeah the "Billy Bad Stick" was pretty hilarious...a favorite around the old building was yelling "Your so FOS!!" the favorite misbehavior trick was to yell out shit right after the FOS "was said" and giggle all together. It was like living in an institution for tourettes sufferers or a revival of the Beavis and Butthead fan club. They were obviously rebelling against the mindfuck...but come on, once OK funny haha, but 5 times a day...not so funny.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2004, 04:17:00 PM »
Father A, are you who I think you are? Curly blond, blue eyes? 1985/6?
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2004, 05:49:00 PM »
No cussing when I was in...no man or cool either...druggie slang.  

Only the occasional infuriated, mouth frothing 5th phaser was allowed the token "you are SO FULL OF SHIT".  

There's no biochemical test to distinguish the so-called manic-depressive person from the elated or despondent football fan. Nor is there any resan to assume the manic-depressive's inner experience is driven by twisted molecules while the football fan's is driven, at worst, by twisted values
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