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« on: August 02, 2004, 05:09:00 PM »
Anyone From Boulder Creek Academy? Around 2001 to 2003ish...just lemme know, im new to this and i am piiiiiiisssed haha j/k
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2004, 04:08:00 AM »
whats up who is this
and hoew do i get rid of this fucking quote bullshit

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2004, 12:56:00 PM »
yea, i was at bca from 2000-2003
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2004, 12:57:00 PM »
i was in peer group 27 (1/2)
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2004, 10:11:00 PM »
the last two were from me, and i was in peer group 27 (1/2)  :wink:

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2004, 07:19:00 PM »
hey guys... how do you get this quote thing to stop coming up on the bottom of whatever i write?

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2004, 12:20:00 AM »
:???: I am new at bca. my daughte tells me that she cannot write what she feels because her leters are read by staff beforethey are mail to me. she tels me that i really do n't understand
what really goes on there. she tells me she writes, but , i very seldom get a letter from her.
 She said that if she writes what is really going on she is told that she is manipulating us and ends uo getting in trouble, so she does not write often. How can this be, if a person needs too express themselves to be understood by their peers and staff. What really is going on at boulder creek academy? What is really going on with the staff? Are they really trying to help all of these kids who are in need or is there some kind of game plan going on to aggitate these young teens into trying to get them too fall back
instead of tying to help them to move forward in their yong lives. Is it true that the staff gets in your face using four letter words and yelling at the kids instead of using kindness and trying to undestand your problem and tohelp u to cope with them? I have been hearing alot of horror stories about th staff with the kids.

I am told that many kids are being pulled from bca
after parents hear the profile that bca gives of a kid. Is this true? What do u know that can help
parents or guidians on this subject? :???:

                             trying to make a decision on a very important matter.


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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2004, 01:04:00 AM »
Get your kid out of there. I am an adult now who went to the school for six months before leaving. (And no despite what they told my parents, I didn't end up in trouble or on drugs when I left.  That's what they tell you to keep us there.  If you complain, they say your kid is manipulating you.  They told ALL of our parents that.) They do monitor your letters and phone calls and you cannot write anything real.  The raps (group "therapy") are totally emotionally abusive and the only way to progress through the program is to bully others and have these emotionally facilitated breakthroughs--often BS.  People are so pressured they often cop out to things they never did just from the barrage of abuse and unrelenting pressure.  

Even if your kid is screwed up, you are torn down and made to feel like scum.  

The environment is so insulated and everything is polarized as good/bad to such degree you do not learn how to operate in the real world later.  

I can't even go into the endless details but if you have questions, get out.  Go with your gut feeling.

Right now, we have some of posters who have taken this site off track in terms of elucidating what goes on, so check out the early threads that describe in detail.  Ex staff have also posted as they were shocked by what was going on but soem have edited their comments out because of fear of retaliation or confidentiality.  So look back....

Do not take the staff's words for it.

Also, some recent grads/parents are still brainwashed; that often wears off in a few years after reality begins to filter back in.  Many students never tell their parents what they really went through because it is all too bizarre to be believed.

Unfortunately, the school paints the naysayers as "ex troubled teens" or disgrunteled staff which is offensive to all of us who went through it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2004, 02:33:00 PM »
that was a very good reply, and i have to agree with EVERY word of it.  you DO need to get your kid out of there.  a lot of the staff will take yelling, criticism, and insulting the kids too far there, to the point where the student feels helpless and like they messed up not only that they screwed up their lives, but everyone elses around them.  if a staff screws up on anything, they will blame the kids i.e. they say they lied to them to get away with something, or you should be more aware and stop putting the blame on every one else here.  the whole place is hypocritical, and i personally believe that the staff should be put and treated as a student for a week or so, so that they will understand what they put us through on a daily basis.  

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2004, 06:18:00 PM »
I am not a parent, but clearly you have a tough choice in front of you.   I assume that you sent your daughter to BCA as reaction to real challenges she was facing in her life. Taking her out of BCA will not alleviate those challenges, but I believe that by forcing her to remain at BCA her challenges will only increase for the reasons listed in previous posts.

I do not believe that BCA is a good placement for any one.   As a past student it is clear to me, that BCA accepts such a wide range of students that there is no way that the program can met the needs of all students.   Improving one's mental health is not a one-size-fits all proposition.  

I'd like to imagine that if I were a parent who was concerned about my child at BCA I'd do the following:

1. Take a long weekend off from work and show-up at BCA unannounced.  I'd arrive in town on Wednesday night, and show up at BCA on Thursday in time for first light.  

2. I'd ask to participate in all the activities that my child participates in.     You are the customer.   If you are denied the ability to see what your child partakes in on a daily basis that should raise some serious concerns.   You sound like a very strong person, but be prepared for some hard-core pushback.  Sure you will disrupt BCA activities by your being there, but you have every right to see what your daughter is going through.   It would be great if every parent had an opportunity to have a first hand experience of the BCA rituals.

3. While you are at the school on Thursday and Friday, talk to other students.  Talk with new comers, and the students who have been there longer.   Do not let them tell their story, but rather question their beliefs. Do the beliefs, as the students purport, seem to be hallow?   i.e. if some a student says something like I believe that love is life and that fear is death.    Ask them what they mean by that statement.   Ask them how that belief and or statement is manifested in their life.    If this seems strange to you -- its because it is weird.   This is the type of stuff your daughter will learn or has learned.   The BCA experience is filled with Rhetoric that pushes disassociation rather than real understanding.

4. Attend a rap.   In the middle of a rap -- ask the students if the rap that you are in is like all the other raps that they attend.   If you get into a rap, since the school pushes absolute 'so-called' honesty you should get some very interesting answers.

5. I'd also do a bit research before going up to BCA.   If you decide that BCA is not the best environment for your child, where are you going to bring her next?   Can she come home?   If not, what are the other options?    If there is a lead-time on the other options where can she stay in the interim?   Can your daughter be a part of the team evaluating what her next steps will be?

6. On Friday night, I?d take my daughter back to the hotel to spend the rest of the weekend.   Expect pushback here too.    Again you are the customer, and this is your child.   You have every right to spend unsupervised time with your child.   Just so we are clear, the concept of AMA [Against Medical Advise] is not applicable to BCA.   An MD will not strongly advocate for you not to spend one-on-one time with your child.
While you are with your child try to figure out, if it is possible, what the two of you should do as a team to help her get to a better place emotionally.

Maybe, BCA is the right choice.   I'd be very surprised if it is the right choice.   The whole concept of behavior modification does not address the underlying catalyst of the behavior.  

In closing, I urge you to pull your daughter out of BCA.   But first go to the school spend sometime at the school, so you are making the decision from first-hand knowledge.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2004, 12:39:00 AM »
I totally agree with the above noters. I personally before attending BCA was at Island view academy it is more of a residential program i thought it wa salot better than BCA times 100. I am not saying to send your child there but i am gonna explain the difference. At Island View the people that worked with us either had a bacholer's in psycology oran associates still studying. The therapist there where very experienced and all and all there was no inexperience uneduacted people there. When i went to BCA staff admited that they had only highschool dimploma's or not even that much. The therapist where either brainwashed or on probation/ about to get fired because they didn't agree with the program. So personally as a parent I would look into who is working with u're children the extent of there education and you should also question what do they no about children with your child problems and how do they deal with that and the ways that they will try to help your child. Now when you go to BCA go strong minded cuz if you are weak they will suck you in easily. Always remember they will try to shove there ways down your throat. Good luck I wish you and your child the best ever.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2004, 02:10:00 AM »
that was a good suggestion about going to the school, and asking to attend in the daily activities.  i think that will help you get a glimps of what really goes on... but don't be supprised if the place doesn't seem as harsh as your daughter says it is... staff will put on an act while you're there because they want you to think that she really is manipulating (that the place really isn't that bad), when in fact, she's telling the truth, they will treat her with a hell of a lot more respect then usual, and will make you "feel at home" - DO NOT GIVE IN TO THAT, however, by going to the campus unannounced, you will catch at lot of the staff off guard; since they weren't expecting a visitor, they wouldn't have time to make the kids do extra cleanning around the house or the dorms, the kitchen staff won't have time to make "gormet" meals.  
  taking her off campus is a really good idea, this will give you and your daughter a chance to really talk about what is "really going on" with out having the staff being there breathing down your neck while you're trying to have a simple conversation with your own child!
  all in all, i am hoping that you take what we have to say, and put it into action.  PLEASE do go up to the school unannounced and see what it's like, and DO ask to take her off campus back to your hotel room... that person was right... they can not say that you can not spend one-on-one time with your child.  

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2004, 03:15:00 AM »
i went to a neighboring school. Rocky Mountain Academy for 10 and a half months. You should research CEDU a little bit. Its not all its cracked up to be. there are far better less expensive places for emotional growth where they DO NOT make you sit in the cold during wilderness programs for days and sleep in tents if your misbehaving, and DO NOT discard mail that is being used to express the true program in its fullest colors. im joshy boy
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2004, 03:17:00 AM »
there is also a lawsuit since they get bonus pay for keeping you kiddos there longer... oops sorry to break it to ya.

CEDUS kinda like marrian barry, its not all its cracked up to be
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2004, 03:20:00 AM »
HAHA GORMET MEALS, I LOVED IT WHEN THEY DID THAT THE FOOD WAS DECENT NOT GREAT BUT DECENT WHEN THEY DID THAT!!! HAHA. everything else is institutional grade food, shit you get at the hospital, YUCK!
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