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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2009, 05:36:32 PM »
Does anyone know who did the abducting for CEDU (running springs) in the 90s? The victim I am concerned about was not abducted by a professional "escort" service. As I understand it, her abductors were comprised of one (or two?) males and one female.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #106 on: May 24, 2009, 11:57:15 PM »
How cool was Roy Johnstone?  He had his idiosyncrasies,  but he was a stand up guy all in all.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #107 on: May 25, 2009, 11:05:34 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Does anyone know who did the abducting for CEDU (running springs) in the 90s? The victim I am concerned about was not abducted by a professional "escort" service. As I understand it, her abductors were comprised of one (or two?) males and one female.
Possibly Bill Lane, or people who worked for/with him? Ex-Synanonite and long-time CEDU employee Bill Lane started working for Mel Wasserman back in 1974. He started doing CEDU's transport back in 1993, give or take a year, and did so until they closed. He still does transport under his own name now. From a June 2005 interview:

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    As time went on, Bill moved into admissions and every other aspect of the organization, culminating in his becoming president of CEDU High and Middle Schools, director of Hilltop and finally, his ultimate love, director of the transport service CEDU began providing.

    "I fell into what has become a passion for me when Mel suggested starting a transport service, I love what we do and the services we have to offer the families, educational consultants, psychiatrists, etc. that I work with throughout the country," Bill explained. "Mel approached me about 12-years-ago with the idea because it was evident that we were getting a lot of students who required transport services. We felt we could do a good job of transporting them ourselves, and we could better prepare the students in their understanding of the schools they were coming too. Whenever Mel was considering a new venture, he would say to me, 'Bill, look into this, see if it is feasible and if it will work.' The transport service was a very successful venture."
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #108 on: June 04, 2009, 12:14:34 AM »
IT IS LATE TONIGHT, WELL NOT THAT LATE, 9:30PM...WHAT TIME DO YOU USUALLY TURN IN FOR THE NIGHT.  SOMEONE SMART LIKE YOU PROBUBLY STAYS UP LATE LIKE 2 OR 3 AM.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2009, 11:25:54 PM »
Most the staff were way undertrained when i was there. 89-91.. Now i live in Sandpoint and see some old staff.. Now as a 37yr old man i see then alot diffrent.
ROOKIE is trash...
Dan Earl is some art guy that has way to much free time...
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2009, 12:35:54 AM »
SO RANDOM
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2009, 11:05:29 AM »
Quote from: "GOOD EVENING GIA"
SO RANDOM


Whats so random????? u thing u know so much.. Who are u???
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2009, 11:33:36 AM »
Quote from: "-VOID-"
Quote from: "GOOD EVENING GIA"
SO RANDOM
Whats so random????? u thing u know so much.. Who are u???

Russ Decker was recently on trial for assault and related charges. After the trial, this person started posting here, apparently to set straight any "misconceptions" about Russ's stellar reputation (he was found guilty of some of the charges). Given the lack of reciprocity in that endeavor found here on fornits, poorly-focused revenge appears to now be the primary motivating force.

Clearly, CEDU wreaks its damage in a variety of ways.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2009, 11:41:59 AM »
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "-VOID-"
Quote from: "GOOD EVENING GIA"
SO RANDOM
Whats so random????? u thing u know so much.. Who are u???

Russ Decker was recently on trial for assault and related charges. After the trial, this person started posting here, apparently to set straight any "misconceptions" about Russ's stellar reputation (he was found guilty of some of the charges). Given the lack of reciprocity in that endeavor found here on fornits, poorly-focused revenge appears to now be the primary motivating force.

Clearly, CEDU wreaks its damage in a variety of ways.

Russ assaulted a minor??? its very simple as i see it. If this trial was in N.Idaho thats worth laughing about.What was he charged with??
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2009, 09:39:06 PM »
WE KNOW ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOU GIA, ALL OF THEM.  THESE SLANDEROUS ACCUSATIONS ARE ILLEGAL. SLANDER IS AN UNTRUTHFUL ORAL OR WRITTEN STATEMENT ABOUT A PERSON THAT HARMS THE PERSON'S REPUTATION OR STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY.  WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR YOUR UNTRUE CLAIMS.  EVERYONE YOU HAVE SLANDERED HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU.  THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE YOU ARE SLANDERING ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE EXPECT YOU TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE SLANDERING THE MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE HERE.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2009, 09:58:59 PM »
Defamation 101 (not legal advice)

Defamation cannot be "illegal" as it is a civil and not criminal matter in the US.  Defamation comes in two forms, slander (which is spoken) and libel (which is written).  In court it really doesn't matter and both are generally referred to as defamation.  In order for a defamation claim to succeed it must be a statement of fact (rather than a statment of opinion) that is untrue and it must actually cause demonstratable harm with admissable evidence.  The onus is on the plaintiff to prove the statement was false.  In this case, it's based off something you said...  and it's rather hard to prove you did not say something, especially when so many others claim you did.

Actual damages are determined by the harm directly caused.  Punitive damages are determined on whether a person knew that the statement was false at the time it was uttered (called actual malice).  If there was no actual malice, and the false statement was a mistake, there can be no punitive damages.  Special conditions apply to public figures.  If you have spoken out about a matter of public concern relating to these schools, that might make you a limited purpose public figure.  If that's the case, you have to prove actual malice in addition to proving a statement false in order to even win the case.  This is very, very, difficult as you would have to prove each and every statement made against you was made with at the very least a doubt into it's truth.  If you cannot prove that doubt with admissible evidence, you lose.

In the US, winning a defamation case is VERY difficult, and should you decide to sue any member of this forum, I can recommend a few California attorneys who do not like programs at all, know of CEDU and would likely be willing to take this case on a pro-bono basis (or at the very least a contingent fee basis).  Keep in mind that these guys are mean motherfuckers and if you lose, you will likely be held responsible for *all* legal fees and court costs incurred (thanks to California's anti-SLAPP legislation...).  They will bleed you dry and laugh with their clients about it.  You'll be in debt for the rest of your life, and don't expect any mercy.  These particular lawyers have gone up against programs with top-dollar lawyers and have won hands down.  If you feel like taking a risk that will likely blow up in your face is appropriate... have at it.  Unless you can prove with admissible evidence that you, for example, did not say that you immolated a homeless man, you're SOL.

Considering that multiple people have reported witnessing first hand your story of burning a homeless man, i'd recommend shutting the fuck up before a hypothetical defamation case turns into a murder investigation (murder has no statue of limitations).  If you indeed did commit such a crime, the last thing you'd want is to make public record out of other people's testimony into the matter.  If you sue people for defamation, they'll respond in kind with declarations from CEDU students who allegedly witnessed what you said.  That's not something you want.

<-- not legal advice.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #116 on: June 10, 2009, 10:06:41 PM »
WE KNOW ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOU GIA, ALL OF THEM.  THESE SLANDEROUS ACCUSATIONS ARE ILLEGAL. SLANDER IS AN UNTRUTHFUL ORAL OR WRITTEN STATEMENT ABOUT A PERSON THAT HARMS THE PERSON'S REPUTATION OR STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY.  WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR YOUR UNTRUE CLAIMS.  EVERYONE YOU HAVE SLANDERED HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU.  THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE YOU ARE SLANDERING ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE EXPECT YOU TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE SLANDERING.
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2009, 04:09:44 PM »
Why did Russ batter his 16 year old step-son in the shower?  
Is it because Russ isn't man enough to confront the boy face to
face?  Is this why Russ made sure to attack step-son unaware
in the shower, at his most vulnerable?
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2009, 05:01:18 PM »
Well, you can read the Russ+ sibling's version on one of these threads.  You are, however, correct, his attack was an act typical of a bully.  One correction, his stepson had not yet entered the shower.  Apparently Russ "thought" that his stepson had stolen a gun from Russ' house.  So, on Christmas morning he decided to storm into his mother-in-law's house with a billy club and have an "intervention" with his stepson.  Now, his stepson was never charged with a theft, nor was there enough information to warrant an investigation.  However, the District Attorney had enough information tfrom the police report to charge Russ.  His in-laws were NOT the ones who pressed charges.
I am sure this will light up the Russ sibling contingent for another assaultive blast on this site.  Can bullying be a genetic trait?
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Re: Staff you Hate - please comment
« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2009, 02:55:58 AM »
I don't hate any of them.  I thought I did but by hating someone you are handing them the control.  Whatever happened, it was weird. Ask yourself where you are now and how it differs from when you were there.  .
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