Maybe Greg should edit my post, maybe not, I don't know. In the meantime, I really don't care what you think Lezbo. But I am sure that I don't have to explain myself to you.
Since you don't get it and you want to play counselor, I will aquiesce and let you humbly take my explanation even though you already mentioned in your projecting post that you wonder sometimes if you are....what is it you said......'mentally instable'. Most instable folk do have a hard time understanding or correctly perceiving others. Too obvious, unfortunately for you.
I, too, was in Straight Incorporated. I have thought of martyrdom, which is really what this guy is talking about. He knows that coming to this forum is mostly for Straightlings and Survivors and anything inbetween that. And don't even try to say, 'well anyone can come here', as a retort to this. Sure, I can go to the veterinarian if I have cancer.
I think the guy is talking about martyrdom more than mere attention for suicide as someone else said. I think death and its causes should be discussed more, instead of sluffed off as something, when mentioned, for being for attention. This speaking of attention sounds like something people used to say in group, "you're just seeking attention" or w/e. I think if he wants to really kill himself that it is up to him, but again I dont think that's the gyst of the conversation. It is entirely safe for me to factually think that anyone who is as evil as Melvin Sembler, Bush Senior, Ronnie, or anyone who will do abuse in an organized way should not be expected to do time in prison or even pay fines after so long. Its so very fucking heinously insanely shittilly fucking way way way far beyond that by now. Afterall, you can't run concurrent sentences on the time that I want Straight creators to do for me for all the years I couldn't think right, act right, feel right, and all the shit you know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. See, in prison you get to defend yourself. LIFE is far easier. You fight or die. That simple. You don't have to listen to anyone, and listening to bullshit there is not construed as therapy. You still have rights in prison. You can go to school in prison. You get fed more. You can stay in bed more. You can make phone calls. You can defend yourself against brainwashing and you don't generally get put in prison unless you're an adult. And as adults the only solution for so many who have suffered against Straight Inc. is for them to kill themselves or be killed off.
You can't take your average prison time and expect Straight Management to run your sentence requirement concurrent with the one I want them to serve. That is the only justice that could ever come from this. The only, one and only viable, foreseeable and justifiable solution for all the fucking literally thousands of fully added years that Straight Inc. should serve for - is death. Death would near equal what the years that need to be paid for equal. Its not three fucking years that they do for the three years that I had to do. Its three years plus ten or fifteen more for creating my disabilities and suffering. Its those ten or fifteen more for the fucked up shit I went through after Straight Inc. because of Straight Inc.
I don't know Thom, I'm sure he's a kool kat. I think he's discussing not only the mere qualities of suicide, but maybe he's saying he perceives the futility in the laws and the world around us. Nothing is ever going to come positive from such a rotten egg as Straight Incorporated. It is too late for Straight Creators to turn around and make ANY 'ammends' for all the wrong they've done even after Straight closed. I don't think suicide should be left out of the question here at all. Maybe you should kill yourself Lezzi, maybe you are afraid to fight and are still comfortable with whipping out of sorry fucking advice to others when it is so apparent that your laziness has gotten to you and you are afraid to stand up and fight like you know you should.
Death is one way to fight and should be used as such in my own opinion.
Next time try taking your own advice. Advice like; 'your encouragement is mental instability' is good for people who are so often projecting, boring, boring at best, and old (like old discontinued cent book advice from doctors who used leeches to draw blood) and useless and, no need to mention, lacking in creativity or imagination.