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Five phases or two phases? More questions about the seed?
« on: July 17, 2004, 04:46:00 AM »
I just posted parts of the H.E.W. grant rewarded to Art Barker in June of 1972. http://www.the8thStep.com (page "The Seed") In it there is a 'program description.'  He describes the intake process and first phase, then a second phase where you go back home and back to school or work, for 3 months until graduating.  Did you all have the '5 phases' like straight or did you only have 2?  The avg program in Straight was approx 18-24 months, how long was it in the SEED?
And did this change from those of you who were in the SEED in the very beginning, to those of you who were in towards the end? Also did Art use the 7 steps or the 12 steps?

Oh and who were the first clients of STRAIGHT, INC. were they current SEED clients? Or did they start recruiting off the street.  And the first "peer staff" in Straight, were they former 'seedlings?'
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2004, 10:14:00 AM »
The Seed was basically Divided up like this

Newcomer
olcomer
oldtimer
jr staff
senior staff

The five phases were developed during straight

Art used the 7 steps


The first clients of straight were not seedlings but the first staff members were seedlings mostly from Lakewood High.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2004, 11:48:00 AM »
Thanks for the info.
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Newcomer and oldcomer sound about the same as when we were in Straight but What was the definition of an oldtimer?

Do you have any idea how straight acquired the first STRAIGHT clients? Don't you have to have a "group" before you have "Group Therapy?"

Did the seed have that stupid beltlooping that STraight had? [ This Message was edited by: Kathy on 2004-07-17 08:49 ]
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2004, 03:31:00 PM »
in the seed, they put their arm around your shoulder wherever you went when you were a newcomer and pulled you close when you were outside or near a door. Beltlooping was some kind of refinement in that restraint technique.

The first newcomers? shit, the Straight was just seed parents that had mega experience recruiting newcomers. No problem getting clients.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »
Oldtimer = seven stepper
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2004, 09:30:00 PM »
What are the 7 steps?

(I'm not a seedling or straightling. I went to CEDU, but all this stuff is building my awareness. I am getting my grad degree in education and I want info in case parents who are having a hard time with their teenagers ask for guidance.  It's good for me to know about these programs so I can help make people more aware of these so-called help industries.)
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2004, 10:00:00 PM »
think AA twelve steps, mix in one cult leader, shorten to taste and whola....you have the seven steps...
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2004, 12:08:00 AM »
Does each of teh seven steps have a name, motto or whatever. What are they?
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2004, 12:44:00 AM »
From Straight 1980....with a 15 year old's interpretation

1. Admitted that I am powerless over drugs and came to believe that a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity.

OR

1. Admit that I am powerless over absolutely everything that goes on here. I do not have control over even so much as my own bodily functions, much less where or if I sleep, eat or speak.Everyone here is insane. Only when I believe that physically & emotionally traumatizing children is an acceptable,rational and positive form of therapy will I be considered sane.

2. Made a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God as I understand him.

OR

2. Make a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of Miller Newton and likeminded individuals who will abuse my body, attempt to destroy my mind and annihilate my self esteem. Agreement to a life sentence by allowing my mind to become a prison of rationality & logic and my heart a wasteland.

3. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of myself daily.
OR
3. Made a searching & fearless or self destructive, desperate inventory of all the things a child can imagine could be wrong with them. List all failings, sins or even thoughts of such and then review them with another adolescent who's own self worth is being likewise destroyed by same process and will continue the dehumanization process by verbal reinforcement.

4. Admit to God myself and another human being the exact nature of my wrongs except when to do would injure them myself or another human being.
OR
4. Confess everything and anything to as many people as can possibly be squeezed into the sweating room. Turn in your friends and schoolmates to advance yourself. Cry. On command. Most definitely confess to the injury of oneself. Self destruction is the goal.


5. Make direct amends to such persons whenever possible except when to do so would injure them, myself or others.

OR

5. Make direct amends for being such a sorry worthless human being. Apologize & grieve over the fact that I exist at all. Embrace my utter hopelessness, worthlessness and shame. Feel guilt and shame for the rest of my life. Make sure that my worthlessness is so driven into my psyche, into my very being that I will carry it into the rest of my life. Every decision I ever make will be affected by my shame. My shame of being.I will beg for my parents forgiveness. I will be forever unable to forgive my self for hurting them by being. I will repress my anger forever because that would hurt them and hurting them is not allowed. Hurting me is preferable and recommended.An amend is a change.Make a change. Change into someone or something else.Plaster 14 barrettes in my hair, a smile on my face and serve 9 to 9 with complete enthusiasm. Arm waving, sweat breaking, chair rocking, grunting and moaning ecstasy.And for God's sake be grateful for the opportunity to have been saved by the ultimate higher power no not God(silly) Miller Newton.

6. Sought to improve my conscious contact with God praying only for knowledge of his will for me and the power to carry that out.

OR

6. I never understood the application of this except perhaps to pray for release. out.

7. Having received the gift of awareness I will continue to practice these principles in all my daily and carry the message to those that I can help.

OR

7. Having received the gift of awareness I will be hyper conscious of my worthlessness and my every failure for the rest of my life. I will swallow my rage and turn it against myself. I will use empathy as a weapon and self discipline and responsibility as tools to administer punishment for my obvious wretched and worthless state of being. I will be ever vigilant in disciplining myself for even minor infractions of capricious rules developed to dehumanize me. I will carry this prison in my mind forever. Long after my conscious has moved on to a career, family and life, my subconscious will continue to censor my thoughts & emotions to the extent that shame and worthlessness will become part of my very being. And don't forget those that I can help. Initially this means reporting phasers and 7 steppers until I am terminated at which point I shall become so focused on the needs of others, especially others who treat me poorly that I become co dependent. I will seek to help people who continue to annihilate my self worth because this is a way of life. This is normal. This is what I do. And I shall suppress my rage until I develop some sort of compulsive behavior be it, drinking, drugs, gambling, sex,food, shopping or all of the above. My compulsive behaviors shall continure to reinforce my negative self worth and feelings of shame, worthlessness and hopelessness.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2004, 01:22:00 AM »
Seven steps were totally different then the steps to graduation.  

As I remember them in 1976 they were

1 newcomer living away from home with an oldcomer

2 newcomer living at come but coming to the seed all day everyday with no contact with outside world

3 Going back to school or work (I think you became an oldcomer about then.) Still coming to the seed at all times you were not at work or school with no outside contacts, stops on the way to or from the seed, no phone calls etc.  This was an odd step for me since I was only twelve when I was told I could go back to work(it was July)school wasn't an option.  Believe me I found a job.

4 Three nights when you only had to go to the seed three nights a week and one full weekend day.  At this point you could talk on the phone and go out and do things with other seedlings or family.  Permission for outings had to be requested at least three days ahead in writing.  Staff said yes or no,for their own quirky reasons I could never quite understand.  Of course we all knew, that the trully straight didn't want to be out of the raps three nights so most people went more often--or had good excuses ready like I had to make dinner for my family cause my mothers has been working so hard.

Last stage graduation, when you didn't have to come in anymore but after a long time of being told that if you were  really strait you would be there all the time regardless many went on to try for staff.  Not me, on the night I  graduated I swore to everyone it would change nothing.  I would still be there helping out the newcomers all the time.
I never went back!

The staff decided when we moved forward and finally graduated.  There was no time frame applied to everyone.
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