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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2004, 08:08:00 AM »
I was in L.I.F.E. AT THE VERY CONCEPTION.L.I.F.E. was started with Ex-Straights,and the first person recruited from the "street" was ME!
If you think I am a racist for using the word "nigger",then what do you call the LIFE Program when there were NO niggers in it.I remember ONE "black" (very very very light brown)girl.
SARA is just another nazi troll who is a tool of the directors today.What a fucking idiot,any person who would say "LIFE started out to be not such a bad program".The WAY it was started,FOR PROFIT,by Sarasota building contractors and asphalt,concrete and construction company FAMILY MEMBERS.The people who BUILT the facility had their own kids in there!
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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2004, 04:02:00 PM »
I'm confused about a couple of apparent contradictions in LaClue's writings. Looks like he worked for LIFE just about the time Straight, Sarasota was falling apart. And he came to them via Manatee County public sector work. Ok, so was he a hopeful reformer? Or true believer? Now he's advocating for a Florida law that would mandate taping of WHOLE police interrogations, in order for juries to be able to find out what went on BEFORE a suspect confessed to a crime. That seems like a good idea to me. Even seems like something I'd take particular interest in based on all I learned about false confessions from Straight and The Seed.

Let's ask the dude what he thinks about all this?

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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2004, 04:57:00 PM »
Greg DeClue was executive staff at LIFE when I was there in '87. I ran into him a few years later in Sarasota and he told me he left the Program due to a disagreement of some sort.

I saw him another time in Sarasota and he had hair down to his ass.

I emailed him and told him we were talking about him. Maybe he'll reply. I wouldn't count on it though.
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2004, 11:30:00 PM »
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On 2004-07-22 13:57:00, TimeBomb wrote:

"Greg DeClue was executive staff at LIFE when I was there in '87. I ran into him a few years later in Sarasota and he told me he left the Program due to a disagreement of some sort.



I saw him another time in Sarasota and he had hair down to his ass.



I emailed him and told him we were talking about him. Maybe he'll reply. I wouldn't count on it though."


  Ummm...  "hair to his ass", huh?!   I've seen him around town a couple times the in the last several MONTHS and it was neck length.
  Your exaggeration doesn't really help your credibilty in your other claims.
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2004, 12:52:00 AM »
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Anon Coward wrote:

 Ummm... "hair to his ass", huh?! I've seen him around town a couple times the in the last several MONTHS and it was neck length.
Your exaggeration doesn't really help your credibilty in your other claims.


Gregory DeClue, Ph.D.
2650 Bahia Vista, Suite 307
Sarasota, FL 34239
941-951-6674

You could call or stop by and ask him yourself. Oh, and thanks for the lesson on credibility.
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2004, 01:27:00 AM »
Ginger, according to his resume, he worked there for 5 years. That seems like a long time for someone who was trying to reform them. Maybe he could add "good intentions" to his list of qualifications.  :smile:
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2004, 06:36:00 AM »
St Pete Straight was falling apart.
Sarasota Straight was falling apart,then some people from there started LIFE in an old bar,across the street from the LIFE BUILDING (aka "House Of Lords,Osprey Florida).
Sarasota LIFE & Straight were operating at the same time (with Ex Straights,now LIFErs,saying that Straight was much more violent than LIFE).Sarasota Straight fell apart.Sarasota LIFE continued to operate.
Today you should:
A)Get the address of the Life Osprey (aka House Of Lords),
B)Go tto the Sarasota Sheriffs Office and ask for a print out of ALL the times the SHERIFF was telephoned to that address from 1981 to 1989 (HUNDREDS!!!),
C)Go to the Sarasota Clerk Of Cort Office and brows the microfilms for L.I.F.E.,Sarasota LIFE,and (I dont remember the name but there is another "group" associated with the LIFE name,you will find it on the microfilms when you locate the LIFE microfilms),
You will see dozens of times that LIFE sued parents for "non payment",or LIFE was sued for such and such.There is a clear path to follow once you find the first microfilm,or read the hundreds of times the SHERIFF was called to the building.
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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2004, 11:44:00 AM »
Now this is interesting! I don't remember ever seeing a cop at Straight, except to deliver a new inmate or escapee. You mean they'd actually go to the LIFE building in response to a complaint?

Since you [US "drug tsar" McCaffrey] control a federal budget that has just been increased from $17.8 billion last year to $19.2 billion this year, is asking people like you if we should continue with our nation's current drug policy like a person asking a barber if one needs a haircut? --
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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2004, 12:25:00 AM »
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A)Get the address of the Life Osprey (aka House Of Lords),

B)Go tto the Sarasota Sheriffs Office and ask for a print out of ALL the times the SHERIFF was telephoned to that address from 1981 to 1989 (HUNDREDS!!!),

C)Go to the Sarasota Clerk Of Cort Office and brows the microfilms for L.I.F.E.,Sarasota LIFE,and (I dont remember the name but there is another "group" associated with the LIFE name,you will find it on the microfilms when you locate the LIFE microfilms),

You will see dozens of times that LIFE sued parents for "non payment",or LIFE was sued for such and such.There is a clear path to follow once you find the first microfilm,or read the hundreds of times the SHERIFF was called to the building."


A) Those who were there probably do not forget 803 S. Tamiami Trail, OSPREY, FL.  (Regards to the coward who pointed an earlier error out to me -- may your brown paper bag stay forever dry on your head.  http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=D#55681 )

B) What Ginger said... I won't waste my time either.

C) Point your browser to http://www.sarasotaclerk.com and go to "Online Services", and from there, choose "Official Records".  Under "Party Name", type in "Life is for Everyone"  (forget the acronym - it won't work)

The other group associated is Southwest Florida Drug Rehabilitation and Counseling Program, Inc. which changed it's name to what we know as "LIFE" on July 13, 1981.

LIFE had a complaint by the Blosser family  dismissed in 1991.  The Blosser family never amended (which sucks, IMHO).

This is pretty much everything that happened since 1990 -- which is little.

Perhaps you can enlighten us to what we would find from the incorporation date in 1981 to December 1989 that would be of great importance?[ This Message was edited by: Sara-1984 on 2004-07-23 22:34 ]
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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2004, 12:55:00 AM »
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A) Those who were there probably do not forget 803 N. Osprey Avenue.



B) What Ginger said... I won't waste my time either.



C) Point your browser to http://www.sarasotaclerk.com and go to "Online Services", and from there, choose "Official Records".  Under "Party Name", type in "Life is for Everyone"  (forget the acronym - it won't work)



The other group associated is Southwest Florida Drug Rehabilitation and Counseling Program, Inc. which changed it's name to what we know as "LIFE" on July 13, 1981.



LIFE had a complaint by the Blosser family  dismissed in 1991.  The Blosser family never amended (which sucks, IMHO).



This is pretty much everything that happened since 1990 -- which is little.



Perhaps you can enlighten us to what we would find from the incorporation date in 1981 to December 1989 that would be of great importance?"
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  lol ---- you convice me more and more, with each post you make,  of what an airhead you are SARA (aka Lisa) ...  LIFE was not located on N. Osprey Ave.  It was US 41 IN Osprey, FL.   :lol:
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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2004, 01:26:00 AM »
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lol ---- you convice me more and more, with each post you make,  of what an airhead you are SARA (aka Lisa) ...  LIFE was not located on N. Osprey Ave.  It was US 41 IN Osprey, FL.   :lol: "


Well, you're obviously as confused as I used to be.  

Having been in Sarasota only months before I was abducted from my legal guardian and taken to the building - I am sure everyone but you can see the difference between the blurring of the city lines in the eyes of a child, and a true airhead.

I do appreciate your input, however, and the correction has been made:   http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#55677

Guess that was it for your "important" agenda?


Regards,
SARA

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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2004, 09:00:00 PM »
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"...I emailed him and told him we were talking about him. Maybe he'll reply. I wouldn't count on it though."


Paging Dr. De Clue
Paging Dr. Gregory DeClue
Dr. DeClue, please answer your email.
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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2004, 02:29:00 AM »
SHERIFF'S OFFICE SARASOTA
I went there to the dispatch center and asked them to print out EVERY call to the L.I.F.E. Program.They reluctantly gave me the print out.There were hundreds of times they were called,usually to return an escapee.These "escapees" had their civil rights violated by the Sheriff when they were returned to L.I.F.E.Also some people were forced to stay at L.I.F.E.,against their will,even after "Court Order For Involuntary Placement" had expired,usually after 30 days.These people had a right to go before the court after 30 days.The order EXPIRED after 30 days.If the victim was not taken to the Judge for FURTHER involuntary placement,then they had a right to leave.When L.I.F.E. kept people after 30 days it was illegal.The Sheriff should not have returned the "escapees" unless they were UNDER court order.The court order lasted NO MORE than 30 days,then it expired.Police,HRS,Teachers,Sarasota School Board,etc.,etc.,all are guilty(and they are still hiding it TODAY,just telephone the Sarasota School Board and start asking questions about L.I.F.E.,they will know what you are talking about and they will give you the telephone number of a local Building Contractor,call him and chat a bit about L.I.F.E.,if you are lucky he will even give you Helen Petermann's current telephone number!).
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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »
ok -  think I'll call the school board and sheriff's office to inquire right after I contact Dallas clerk of courts about the Kennedy conspiracy and Scotland yard about the Loch Ness Monster.

  Who cares???????  My GOD - it's WEIRD that you are so wrapped up in this stuff how many years later?

 get a life ... move along ...  grow up  :cry2:
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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2004, 10:09:00 AM »
Greg, I know for a fact I was never a court ordered to LIFE. I never even signed the intake papers.

And to the other anonymouse:
Maybe you're right. Maybe we should just forget the past and allow the criminals to continue to go free so they can abuse even more people. And who cares about the past, right? It's not as if this sort of thing is still going on today. Wrong! You need to read a little more and quit talking so much.

Of course you probably already know this. So, what is it that you stand to lose from the crimes of the past being brought to light?
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