From: WWASP VICTIM (@ 12-246-124-72.client.attbi.com) on: Mon Jun 2 16:40:34 EDT 2003
I spent 5 months at casa by the sea, was physicallt beatin, and mentally destroyed. My parents were ripped off and were taken advatage of in a time of crisis. I was kidnapped, taken to mexico, and held for ransom for 5 months. Wwasp is a complete money scandal. The more kids they got, the more money comes in. The goal is to make the owner rich, sadly not to care for your kid. Go to ur local zoo, they treat the animals better there then wwasp facility's. Never once for 5 months i wasnt alloud to talk on the phone with my parents. Dundee ranch, one of wwasp facilty's, was just shut down 2 weeks ago and the owner was arrested and was detained in a costa rican jail for charges of abuse, and several other charges. Wwasp is known for its false advertisement and money grubbin scandal. The kids are not students, they are inmates. The united states treated convicted murders high class compared to what they treated me like. Several wwasp programs have been shut down for physical abuse. "paradise cove" was shut down cause they used cattle prods on kids. (sounds like paradise) Sunrise beach in mexico was shut down physical abuse, the owner fled mexico. High impact was shut down cause officals found kids in dogg cages. And now DUNDEE RANCH was just shut down for 4 different charges of abuse, dundee was raided by poilce and made the arrest of the owener. wwasp makes 65 million a year, if they want to help ur child so much why do the parents have to mortgage there homes? Take it from me, i was at casa by the sea for 5 months and am still affected by the torture they did to me. Hundreds of legal suits have been filed recently against wwasp. I personally was on the fron page of the NEW YORK TIMES less then 2 weeks ago. Several former owners admitted they had abused kids and would lock kids in isolation rooms days on end. If you are interested in truth, then you will surely be interested in the torture wwasp puts your kid through. This is one of those places that you would never imagine and would never be able to visualize. Cant speak your own language, cannot talk or see oppisite sexs, cannot talk with ur parents for years, cannot speak when u want, cannot talk to others, eat horrible food, watched by staff when you are goin to the bathroom, taking a shower. The amount of money these people are giving to wwasp, i feel they outta have there kids treated like kings and queens. Take that money and put it right back in your pocket, there are people who will REALY help you without making you morgage your home and hold ur kid in a different country for ransom. Girls have been raped at wwasp prisons. And we will never forget the young boy who died from the rotation of his neck that snapped from the adminstrator. WWASP sure has a bad reputation and is all falling down. These teens are people just like them, we have rights as a human being and we were stripped of our dignity, and treated like doggs in cages. WWASP has alot to hide and i dont know if the truth could be any more obvious. For some reason, thousands of other teens like me have been destroyed from wwasp. We kids have no reason to lie to anyone, but the pain we have been through is to much and we are willing to take some time and let anyone know what these people are realy about. The first day i was there, i spent 73 hours in casa's R & R chamber isolation room with my nose to the floor, and hands behind my back days on end, with only a couple 1 min bathroom breaks. The advertisement of wwasp makes me laugh. I find it incredibly humorous and sickening. Wow, you would almost have to be stupid to pay for your own kid to be kidnapped,taken abroad, and even pay for his abuse and torture while not even being able to talk to you on the phone for years. You would like to think you get what you pay for right? Well let me be me to assure you the money doesnt go into your childs well being. Your child is sleeping on a cement floor with 90 other kids in a hallway every night being watched by jo blo. Its very simple, your money doesnt go to your kid, It goes directly into the hands of the owner of wwasp. You arent buyin ur kid anything, you are paying for the owner's nice homes, sports cars, and expensive dinners, while your kid is in a different country rotting like an orphan. Your heart is in denial and somewhere deep down you fear the worst, well i guess its god's turn to let you know this is the worst. By being involved with wwasp, you are supporting kidnaps, rape, abuse, neglect, starvation, and ransom of your kid. All wwasp victims legally cannot be held against there will. Wwasp violates human rights in several countries. You are hurting your kid way more then helping. It realy is likely he wont forget the torture but you can start by buyin a plane ticket and capturing you son or daughter. May god bless you and thank you for letting me share with you my honest heart.
From: Kim (@ 0-1pool180-183.nas2.las-vegas1.nv.us.da.qwest.net) on: Mon Jul 28 23:05:12 EDT 2003
I recently left a program in mexico. Some things they say are true, and others I am not so certain about- I never saw them. If you were compliant you could get so far. If you were rebellious, well, there were some extremeties. People often ask me what it was like and its hard for me to explain. I seem to have shut most of that experience out of my mind. I do know that it was very hard. Emotionally and physically. And everyone has different views on it. I left because I developed pneumonia, a weird bacteria called MAI, and had an abcess in my lung no smaller than a lemon. I do beleive it was from neglect. After several weeks of being really sick, doubting myself because no one really beleived me, I decided to keep persisting to see a real doctor. And I did. That day was the last day I ever saw that school. When I was sick, I was in a lot of pain. And to get one tylenol or ibuprofen there was like trying to get some illegal drug. well, theres more. I dont want to bore you. I am glad about one thing, I finished highschool there. Whether going there helped me as a person, I'm not sure. Maybe I just needed to get out of the environment I was in. Such drastic measures such as sending me away for nine months probably werent necessary. Maybe I just needed to grow up. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me. id love to find out about other peoples views or experiences.
From: Donna (@ wcshqs1.ncr.disa.mil) on: Fri Apr 2 11:12:30 EST 2004
Just to let you know that these WWASP stories above are not true. There are elements of truth, but they are so blown out of proportion that they have gone over the edge of being ridiculous.
If you look on other websites (wwasprebuttal.com -- I think is one --even intrepidnetreporter), you will find hundreds of parents and teens who have received good results from these programs. Not one lawsuit--EVER--has succeeded against WWASP for good reason. They do really good work.
My daughter was in a WWASP facility, Casa by the Sea, for 23 months. She went in extremely self destructive at 14, using drugs, alcohol, having sex, cutting herself, suicidal ideation, and through WWASP has done very well for herself. She's been out for 13 months, just had her 18 birthday, and is about to graduate from high school with her class. She intends to go to college. This wouldn't have happened without WWASP. She would have been dead or almost certainly dropped out.
Was WWASP perfect? No--far from it. But it did the job, and now I have a fairly normal (well, as normal as teens are) young woman who is capable of making good, non-self-destructive choices. She IS NOT bitter about WWASP at all
Note from poster: this parent was not there - but apparenty liked the end result - a compliant and obedient child. Some people think it's worth it pay someone to literraly BEAT THE HELL out of their defiant teen. I'm not one of those people. Sometime people need to learn hard lesson of life the hard way and sometimes a good parent can only advise and watch as their child makes mistakes that they will hopefully learn from.
[ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2004-06-19 20:24 ]