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Offline Antigen

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Does this ring any bells?
« on: June 10, 2004, 04:12:00 PM »
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Revealing this truth too early would would result in "too steep a gradient" for the potential recruit. Hence, deception and economy with the truth is the "ethical" course. Indeed, it is deemed to be positively unethical to present the naked truth to an insufficiently prepared individual.


Can anyone attibute the above quote? I'll show you where I found it in awhile.



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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 04:15:00 PM »
that is exactly what they did in intake at the Seed way back in 1972, lie to you for your own good (in their opinion).
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2004, 04:16:00 PM »
however, I am guessing scientology for your quote.
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2004, 01:33:00 AM »
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Sounds like Armed Forces recruitment officer training to me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2004, 10:25:00 AM »
This could also be Masonic in origin. Or Mormon.
Both keep actual facts well away from the lower level members.

The word recruit does make one think of the military, dosen't it?

Knowing Ginger, I suspect we're in for a surprise.
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2004, 11:20:00 AM »
Is this quote and it's origin related to Applied Scholastics (Study Tech)?

If so, my guess is the quote can be attributed to L. Ron Hubbard.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2004, 11:45:00 PM »
I think we're gonna find I was wayyyyyyy off base here.  So much for going for the obvious!  :razz:
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2004, 01:20:00 AM »
Applied Scholastics.  Scientology - -

Scientologists- see who is against giving our kids drugs to control their behavior.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scien ... ies19.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scien ... ies28.html

And - yes, there are many programs that  fit into this:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scien ... en389.html
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2004, 10:57:00 AM »
Yeah, it's study tech.

http://studytech.org/study_tech1.php

Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2004, 02:24:00 PM »
Amazing how all cults use similar techniques, From Heavins Gate to self help cults like Straight and wwasp, eh?
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2004, 02:43:00 PM »
Yeah, amazing. But it sort of explains a lot if you think about it this way. We're all familiar w/ those most shocking, sensational tales from history such as the Inquisition, Salem witch hunts, the Mongol massacre of educated professionals on the larger scale and minor events like the People's Temple, Branch Davidians and the Synanon Church. These are all examples of religious zealotry run http://www.smirkingchimp.com in their coverage of the recent crowning of the Rev Sun Myung Moon, apparently by our own Congress! What else did we expect, really?

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2004, 03:11:00 PM »
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On 2004-06-12 11:24:00, GregFL wrote:

"Amazing how all cults use similar techniques, From Heavins Gate to self help cults like Straight and wwasp, eh?



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Straight and WWASP are "self help"?  I thought it was "We're gonna help you, and you're gonna LIKE it, dammit!"   :lol:

These idiots are more virluent than ebola.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2004, 10:23:00 PM »
Well, it really is a phrase that doesn't really mean what it says....or something like that.

Self help cults is a catch all phrase for drug rehab and alcohol rehab cults, personal development cults like Est and the like. I think it is a term meant to distinquish them from the more common religious cults.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2004, 12:08:00 AM »
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On 2004-06-12 19:23:00, GregFL wrote:

"Well, it really is a phrase that doesn't really mean what it says....or something like that.



Self help cults is a catch all phrase for drug rehab and alcohol rehab cults, personal development cults like Est and the like. I think it is a term meant to distinquish them from the more common religious cults.



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Yeah, I kinda figured that much.  They still purport to be "help".  A cult is a cult.  
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