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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2004, 09:20:00 AM »
Okay - I'm not entertaining this moron anymore.  
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Would still like to hear from the thinking people out there.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2004, 10:43:00 AM »
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"Get there early if you want to see her,her body bag will not be transparent.Dont stand too close though.She has enemies."


  Is your "brain bag" transparent?  Cause obviously your brain is DOA!  What... are you about 14 yrs old?  HA
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2004, 09:17:00 PM »
Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky).
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2004, 11:18:00 PM »
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"Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky)."


   CASE in point.
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2004, 11:46:00 AM »
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Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky).


I think you must be her best buddy. If you really wanted her dead, you wouldn't be giving her 2 months advanced warning. Besides, this isn't about revenge. Self defence is a different story, though.

I was in LIFE during the first half of '87. Peterman slapped me around pretty good. I was also put in a "bench restraint" for a couple of hours once, and couldn't move my arms afterward -- *very* painful. Could have avoided it all if they just would have let me leave. Finally did leave on second phase and I'm still alive today (imagine that).

Anyway, I live in the area and I'm thinking about stopping by and seeing some of those people. I do recognize several of the names. Most of them were staff. I really hope they aren't thinking about starting another program.

Shane Partain
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2004, 12:23:00 PM »
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I was in LIFE during the first half of '87. Peterman slapped me around pretty good. I was also put in a "bench restraint" for a couple of hours once, and couldn't move my arms afterward -- *very* painful. Could have avoided it all if they just would have let me leave. Finally did leave on second phase and I'm still alive today (imagine that).

Bench restraint... is that when two or three people would link arms with you and throw their legs over you and immobilize you on those horrible pews?

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Anyway, I live in the area and I'm thinking about stopping by and seeing some of those people. I do recognize several of the names. Most of them were staff. I really hope they aren't thinking about starting another program.



Shane Partain
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 :scared: Oh GOD let's hope not  :scared:
I would LOVE to go to this shindig.  Unfortunately that is the weekend I have a conference scheduled out of state.  

So, I'm sorry I'm going to miss going to  Bradenton, listening to Happy Lifers 'having a song' around a plastic punchbowl, and mourning the old days of writing MI's, torturing - I mean HOUSING, yes... Housing newcomers, and trying to remember 'program words and prases'.  Oh.. they might even "motivate" in retro-regard when a Staff Member has the floor to speak.  


I'm just sorry I'm going to have to miss all this!   :roll:
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2004, 08:54:00 PM »
I have the highest respect for Shane.Your internet information has been shared by me to many others.
I hope you will have the benefit of hearing the news that Pissermen gets hers and hard too.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2004, 11:31:00 PM »
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Bench restraint... is that when two or three people would link arms with you and throw their legs over you and immobilize you on those horrible pews?

Yep, that's it. I had a lot of other nasty experiences there, too -- like most of us did. Shortly after I left, the staff at LIFE helped my parents plan a kidnapping. They lured me in and took me by force to Bethel, in Mississippi. I came very close to becoming another one of those "compressional asphyxiation" statistics. Like the names with the '+' signs: http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html Fat guys should not sit on skinny kids' backs!

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I have the highest respect for Shane.


Thanks. I've actually been into this internet inactivism thing for a couple of years. Had a little success, laid low for a while. I figured I'm ready to start getting stalked and harrassed again.  :evil:
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2004, 03:49:00 AM »
I think this board full of Cliquers.
Shane,if you get your own website then I will support.I think FAGER is a screwball,or at least thats what his website looks leads me to think(and EVERY professional I have shown the website too).There is no room for forgiving the SARASOTA guilty,building contractors,judges,teachers/school board,etc.etc.SARASOTA does not like to get egg on the face.BILL ZOELLER (spelling im not sure)is a builder/architecht(in phone book sarasota many with that name living on Siesta Key paradise.TIME to wake them up(This guy once told me "You know you all deserved it".Sarasota must fess up.I am under the sarasota govt"s skin right now for personal matters(and they know Im pissed off about the program)It is also that I may be amongst the most famous of their newcommers.The remember me,and its been my business to keep reminding them(they hate egg on their face).If you want war with them then I am your soldier.
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2004, 12:19:00 PM »
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On 2004-06-04 00:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think this board full of Cliquers.

Shane,if you get your own website then I will support.I think FAGER is a screwball,or at least thats what his website looks leads me to think(and EVERY professional I have shown the website too).There is no room for forgiving the SARASOTA guilty,building contractors,judges,teachers/school board,etc.etc.SARASOTA does not like to get egg on the face.BILL ZOELLER (spelling im not sure)is a builder/architecht(in phone book sarasota many with that name living on Siesta Key paradise.TIME to wake them up(This guy once told me "You know you all deserved it".Sarasota must fess up.I am under the sarasota govt"s skin right now for personal matters(and they know Im pissed off about the program)It is also that I may be amongst the most famous of their newcommers.The remember me,and its been my business to keep reminding them(they hate egg on their face).If you want war with them then I am your soldier."


Cliquers?  In what way?  How is that a bad thing?  Of course we're "cliquers" ... we're a pretty unique group.   I only know two other people personally who have put up with one these programs.

You should probably check yourself on formatting paragraphs and sentences and spelling and grammar usage if you're going to knock Wes' site.   JMHO  :cool:
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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2004, 02:14:00 PM »
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Shortly after I left, the staff at LIFE helped my parents plan a kidnapping. They lured me in and took me by force to Bethel, in Mississippi. I came very close to becoming another one of those "compressional asphyxiation" statistics. Like the names with the '+' signs: http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html Fat guys should not sit on skinny kids' backs!


How did you leave LIFE? Did you run?  I always applauded the runners!  Wish I had bigger cojones back then.  :cool:
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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2004, 09:30:00 PM »
I ran away. But only because they finally gave me the opportunity. It was partly because I caused so much trouble (violence was really the only way out). But, I later found out that the cost was to be split between my dad and my mom & stepfather. My dad failed to pay his half of the expenses, so that probably had some bearing on things.

I fought like hell for a while, then conformed. After I was on second phase for a time, they started sending me home alone at night. I kept asking for foster brothers, but they wouldn't do it. I think they just wanted me to run so they could have an excuse to send me to Mississippi. Bethel was a lot cheaper back then.

After leaving, I moved in with my dad and started working. Then, my mom lured me in by pretending to take me out for an innocent lunch. We stopped by her house on the way back and the door slammed shut behind us. A couple of goons popped out of the back room, a van pulled up to the door, and they dragged me away, kicking and screaming.

The cops actually helped plan the kidnapping. A program parent drove the van.

You know, Greg sounds a little bit psycho, but a lot of the things he says make sense. My step father was in the construction business in Sarasota for many years, and his mother worked for the Sarasota County Schools for a log time -- his sister still does. Some one from the Sherrif's Department helped plan my kidnapping, and I know of a least one person from the program who's father was a contractor. And yes, the building contractors pretty much run the Sarasota County Government. As far as starting a war with them, I guess the worst thing that could happen is getting black footprints on my head. But, I don't think I want to do it unless they try to start another program. Like I said, it's not about revenge -- LIFE is long gone.
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« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2004, 11:39:00 PM »
Damn... that's one hell of a story.  I know someone with a similar experience.  What I don't GET is why - economically speaking - Peterman would be so hell bent on moving kids to another program.  But then again - maybe she was just a narcissistic sadist who enjoyed making lives miserable more than she enjoyed money.

I don't know what Greg's deal is - he may actually have good points, but unfortunately they're all muddied by his incoherent posts.  The way you put it makes a more sense - especially in the era of drug propoganda back then.  I know for a fact that law enforcement cooperated with many "kidnappings" under the guise of "helping a troubled teen"... I interviewed a Sarasota cop in the early 90's about this - Teens didn't stand a chance.

As far as the contractor thing goes - it's possible that that's where the money is talking.  But I'm really getting the feeling that it wasn't just one group of contractors, or one group of anything - I really think that a select group of various professions assembled their talents to capitalize on the Great Drug War of the eighties.

I admit - I haven't done my homework here - or any work at all for that matter.  So far all I've heard about this has been from Greg LeClaire and nothing from the established researchers.  

But if there's evidence out there - I'm all ears!
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2004, 11:02:00 AM »
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 But then again - maybe she was just a narcissistic sadist who enjoyed making lives miserable more than she enjoyed money.


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  If you think she got RICH off a mere $3,000 program fee off each client (for however long it took each client to complete even a year or more), think again.  Psych/treatment hospitals charged about 1/3 of that price per DAY. And staff count was at least 15 to 20, plus all other expenses within there facility.  Peer staff were hardly paid, from what I understand so this theroy that these people made millions from these programs is totally warped and ridiculous.
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2004, 07:35:00 PM »
Somebody sure made a pile of money dissapear! What were the program fees? How much did they receive in private donations and fundraisers? How much from various government sources like Law Enforcement Assistance Agency?

Now, where did it go? Not to expensive buildings, most of these places are run out of warehouses or office buildings in the bad part of town. Not to peer staff, they barely got a stipend. It wasn't client housing or education, as the parents provided both. It certainly wasn't the high cost of peanut butter and stale bread.

So where did it go? Somebody had to have gotten it!

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