//And please, no more "duck and cover" tactics otherwise people are going to start thinking YOU, Karen Burnett, have been less than completely upfront with them.//
Geez people, or person, how can you imagian I have anything to say about the Strawn situation that matters? Really?
I was refered to him, is how I found him; and the web search I did pulled up nothing but his web site.
//Get out your Bible, Karen, and show me where Jesus would EVER allow teens to be abused in the name of therapy, or The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. //
Com-on now, the last thing any one on this board wants is Bible quotes. However, be it known, my Bible is always right here, at arms reach, two different translations, and I needen't "get it out".
I have on a few occasions pointed out what The Messiah had to say about this issue of children being done harm; and it was very clear it is Not OK; and that they doing the harm will regret it.
You know me, don't you; So if you want to toss verses back and forth, write me.
//That's it, cast doubt and suspicion on the child who may be mentally ill and can't help but lie. Where have we heard this before, . . . YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THESE DRUGGIE, LYING, MANIPULATIVE TEENS.
What a crock! These programs are full of kids from homes where a step-parent has made them the scapegoat, blamed them for "destroying" the family dynamics, etc.//
Well, I knew this was coming.
"Before you pounce on me with tooth and claw; I am *Not* saying it Is a lie; just that the possibility exists; and how sad for anyone falsely accused.
If true, there is no excuse, and I wish he were in prison. "
The very reason the program makes this claim and is so universally believed, is b/c it is so often true. They use this common truth to explain the complaints they know will follow placement to manipulate the parents.
I know about the monstrous injustice of a victim not being believed; but it is just as awful when good people are falsely accused; and it does happen; and there are disorders that have a very high rate of patient making just such false claims.
Now, I have no idea what is the Truth of the situation is; and neither do you; but heres where believing in a Just God is a comfort - He knows. When there is not a thing I can do here;
I can take it to His thrown and leave it there. He'll take care of it.
Actually, not that I imagine anyone cares; but this is something that cuts very close to the bone with me; and I do feel a deep anger. It has brought up memories ands issues of crimes against two little girls I know (now young adults) who were raped for Years by their step dad; and the courts sent them (the family) to family counseling - that it. He raped them both, for years, and that was all the state did. They were Little girls.
I have never gotten over it; and its one of those things I have had to let go and let God - but now its back again - at least for awhile - and no doubt, now matter how hard I try, I'll be brooding for days.
I also have a good friend, who's daughter made such claims as a result of the illness I mentioned. It did devastate her family and nearly destroy the poor dad; and it wasn't until she made the same claims against every one involved in her case, eventually, that they realized it was her illness.
Its horrible both ways.
Back to the escort.
What ever may be the case with him and all this; and I do now tend to believe it; it doesn't change what the truth was as far as his treatment of us; and that's what I have related.
If you intend to allude I am somehow "tainted" by these crimes; I have to say that is taking things a bit to far.
//Oh Karen, give it a rest. You are in way over your head. However well-intentioned you would have us all believe, the bottom line is you are part of the problem, not the solution. You are affiliated with a program that claims Jesus is the only way to straighten out wayward youth. //
Look, I responded to a question, directed to me.
Otherwise, I'm all to happy to 'give it a rest.'
I really don't give a ratz ass whether or not you think I'm helping or hurting - I mean - after all - who the hell are you? No one that matters, for sure. Who ever you are, You have no idea who I am, or what I'm doing, and weather or not it is helping or hurting.
As for my Faith - Hey, it works for me. I'm very glad of it; and I can tell you in all honesty; I have never seen anyone overcome a drug or drinking problem without God's help. And so, yes, I do think a Christian program can be helpful were other attempts fail.
I think Ginger has a valid point that it is necessary to want help; but I can't bring myself to say let the kids so at risk just go to hell in a hand basket either. As minors the parents are still responsible for them; like it or not; and if responsible; they are obligated to try and keep the kid safe and sober.
But this is a subject for another thread.
If you want to argue teens are entitled to full civil rights; just as any adult; then where and when does parental responsibility end?
Anyone want to jump threads and tackle this?
I would, but on one such occasion I had an angry and goofy face anon asking who the hell I thought I was, starting a new thread and 'ducking' their interrogation. So, if ya'll want to talk about it - go post it.
I'll check back later - I'm going to go clean my barn and play in my pond awhile; and brood over the lost innocence of little girls; and the bloody bastard who brought it about; and my one time best friend who stayed with him.
