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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2004, 10:23:00 PM »
Ya know, who gives a damn?????  Karen did what she thought was right at the time, it worked out OK for her....

so drop it, Anon.  It don't mean shit whoever she used, and you know it.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2004, 12:35:00 AM »
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On 2004-05-15 19:23:00, spots wrote:

"Ya know, who gives a damn?????  Karen did what she thought was right at the time, it worked out OK for her....



so drop it, Anon.  It don't mean shit whoever she used, and you know it."


And the teen, how did it work out for him, Spots?

I mean, that is the point not whether "it" worked out okay for these damn stupid parents.  

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2004, 12:52:00 AM »
look into strawns background deep. you will be amazed!!! Hint look for sexual-abuse claims on a minor!!!! And parents trust him!!!! he sexualy abused a minor!!!!
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2004, 02:23:00 AM »
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"look into strawns background deep. you will be amazed!!! Hint look for sexual-abuse claims on a minor!!!! And parents trust him!!!! he sexualy abused a minor!!!!"


Anon, is this person the same person you are referring to?

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Police sergeant faces charges of battering girl, 14
Author:     Date: February 1, 1997 Publication: The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution Page Number: D7 Word Count: 885
 
From staff reports

An Atlanta police sergeant who faces an internal affairs investigation into allegations he molested his stepdaughter has been charged with battering the 14-year-old girl. Rick Strawn kicked the teen while struggling with her over a camera, according to a Gwinnett County police report. Strawn was arrested in Lawrenceville Thursday night. He also was arrested in June 1996 after the girl told a counselor her stepfather molested her while she was asleep when she was 12

LAW AND ORDER
Police sergeant faces charges of battering girl, 14
Author:     Date: February 1, 1997 Publication: The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution Page Number: D7 Word Count: 867
 
From staff reports

An Atlanta police sergeant who faces an internal affairs investigation into allegations he molested his stepdaughter has been charged with battering the 14-year-old girl. Rick Strawn kicked the teen while struggling with her over a camera, according to a Gwinnett County police report. Strawn was arrested in Lawrenceville on Thursday night. He also was arrested in June 1996 after the girl told a counselor her stepfather molested her while she was asleep when she was 12
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »
Spots, you asked who gives a damn?

Well FYI there are alot of us who give a damn.  When you have "parents" like Karen "helping" parents" it is very very significant to clearly understand how little these "parents helping other parents" know.  They claim to be experts in an industry that deals with "teens at risk."  What a joke :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2004, 12:53:00 PM »
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"Spots, you asked who gives a damn?



Well FYI there are alot of us who give a damn.  When you have "parents" like Karen "helping" parents" it is very very significant to clearly understand how little these "parents helping other parents" know.  They claim to be experts in an industry that deals with "teens at risk."  What a joke ::bigsmilebounce::  ::birthday::  ::hatter::  ::kiss::
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2004, 01:22:00 PM »
How many times do we have to say it .... WWASPS ain't the only bad kid on the block.  In fact, it is one of hundreds among the teen help industry.  Have you seen the allegations against CEDU?  The so-called faith-based programs?  What about the kick-ass boot camps and quasi-military-schools?  Provo Canyon?  Wilderness therapy programs?

This long crusade to "bring WWASPS down" has done nothing but line the pockets of some rather dubious people by giving parents a false sense of security that if they stay away from WWASPS, they are somehow choosing a safer, more "healthy" program.  That is pure poppycock.  This is a self-regulated, self-policed industry.  None of these parents-helping-other-parents are experts in anything but enabling teens to spend the better part of their adolescence confined to some money-making institution.  IMO, these people are lower and dirtier than pond scum.

Nobody gives a damn? What about every single teen who lost their innocence in one of these hell-hole institutions?  Looks like you forget about them, Spots, in your rush to defend "parents helping other parents".

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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2004, 01:42:00 PM »
Karen here:
First let me say, I never have at any time claimed to be an expert on anything and anyone who knows me at all, knows this.
I have always been Way up front, that I'm just a house wife and Mom with no education beyond High school.
However, I have had a lot of experaince getting services from state and federal  sorces for mentally ill teens; and I can give sound advice along those lines; and often much more honest and straight forward than the actual social workers who are supposed to be doing this can/will give. And so in this regard, I Can help parents who are facing these kinds of problems; even with out a degree.
As for program placement; which I suppose the goofy faced anon is aluding to: I don't and never have done this. I can talk about my Personal experaince, and this is all I do, or have ever done.
I have explained this SO many times.
Goofy face just won't leave it alone. She is like that.I suppose she can't help it.
As for this news abou Strawn; I am rather upset to see this; wondering why this is the first I've seen it; pretty much feeling hurt and depressed over it. I liked him; even if he was less than completly upfront with me.
Still, people should keep in mind; some kids do lie; some mental disoders espically predispose the patients to tell lies of exactly this kind; so I think it best to not judge To harshly with out more actual knowledge of the people and events invloved.
Before you pounce on me with tooth and claw; I am Not saying it Is a lie; just that the possibilty exists; and how sad for anyone falsely accused.
If true, there is no excuse, and I wish he were in prison.
Spots, I don't want to harrass you, but I really do wish you'd get in touch off the board.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2004, 02:05:00 PM »
Oh Karen, give it a rest.  You are in way over your head.  However well-intentioned you would have us all believe, the bottom line is you are part of the problem, not the solution.  You are affiliated with a program that claims Jesus is the only way to straighten out wayward youth.  That is not true, but given your lack of understanding about adolescent behavioral disorders and mental illness coupled with your born-again Christian rhetoric, I suppose you can't help yourself.  

As for Strawn, you never did confirm whether you used him or some other escort service to take your son to Dundee Ranch.  Regardless of the answer, it appears you have been "enlightened" and are now troubled by the news that things are NOT always what they appear to be.

Again, you are in over your head and should seriously consider helping animals instead of parents and teens.  At least that way I know you'd be doing some good.

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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2004, 02:30:00 PM »
ya this is the same person i was talking about!! Thanks for posting the link...
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2004, 02:32:00 PM »
That's it, cast doubt and suspicion on the child who may be mentally ill and can't help but lie.  Where have we heard this before, Karen? Program officials, whose first line of defense when faced with allegations of abuse is YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THESE DRUGGIE, LYING, MANIPULATIVE TEENS.

What a crock!  These programs are full of kids from homes where a step-parent has made them the scapegoat, blamed them for "destroying" the family dynamics, etc.  

Get out your Bible, Karen, and show me where Jesus would EVER allow teens to be abused in the name of therapy, or The Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2004, 02:59:00 PM »
GEORGIA IN BRIEF
Officer heldon charge of molesting girl
Author:  Staff and news services   Date: June 23, 1996 Publication: The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution Page Number: H4 Word Count: 612
 
An Atlanta police officer was relieved of his law enforcement duties Saturday following his arrest on a child molestation charge filed in Gwinnett County.

Officer Rick Strawn, 44, of Suwanee was arrested Friday night by Gwinnett County authorities and taken to the county jail, officials said. His bond was set at $50,000 cash.

Strawn was arrested on a warrant based on a complaint from his stepdaughter, who was 12 at the time of alleged abuse at Strawn's home in Suwanee last
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2004, 03:33:00 PM »
Get out your Bible, Karen, and show me where Jesus would EVER allow teens to be abused in the name of therapy, or The Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

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Or, in the name of "helping families heal", the signature mantra of "parents helping other parents" to lock up their behaviorally incorrect children with no guilt, no shame, no concern.  

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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2004, 03:53:00 PM »
Karen writes:

As for this news abou Strawn; I am rather upset to see this; wondering why this is the first I've seen it; pretty much feeling hurt and depressed over it. I liked him; even if he was less than completly upfront with me.

******** QUESTION FOR KAREN ***********

So, how did you hear of Strawn and become acquainted with him in the first place?  

And please, no more "duck and cover" tactics otherwise people are going to start thinking YOU, Karen Burnett, have been less than completely upfront with them.

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2004, 04:29:00 PM »
Family fight leads to officer's arrest
Earlier charges involved molestation
Author:  Joshua B. Good STAFF WRITER Gwinnett  Date: February 1, 1997 Publication: The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution Page Number: J3 Word Count: 525
 
Atlanta police Sgt. Rick Strawn, who faced an internal affairs review because he was accused of molesting his stepdaughter, was charged with battery and domestic violence Thursday evening in Lawrenceville after allegedly kicking the 14-year-old girl during a family fight.

The struggle between Strawn, his wife and stepdaughter was over film that showed Strawn passed out drunk, according to a Gwinnett County police report. Strawn's arrest ended two days of violent struggle within ..."

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Does anyone know if this case was resolved and if so, what the outcome was?  I mean, these allegations are somewhat dated, are they not?
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