If you are considering placing your kid in a residential facility that uses abusive behavior modification, or if you have your child friend or relativee in youth program - PLEASE subject yourself to the following experiment: Sit on the concrete floor of your garage when it is about 40 - 50 degrees outside, have nothing more than a sweat suit on, stare strait ahead for two hours. After the two hours ask yourself if any person should be punished in such a manner. Realize that your child will be punished like this for any arbitrary reason - like talking, standing, looking the wrong way, rolling their eyes. Imagine if you had to do this for 4 hours, even 8 hours a day. This is what some children are subjected to on a daily basis for any minor infraction. The United States signed the UN Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. Would you consider being forced to sit in a cold, small concrete room on the concrete floor for hours degrading, even painful. Seriously, if you did some of these things to your dog you'd probably be put in jail for cruelty to animals. Yet authorities, licensing boards and governments of UTAH and other states that host these programs allow this to occur. In my opinion these authorities should be removed from office because they are allowing children to be abused, degraded and inhumanely punished in the name of treatment. These tactics are used solely to brainwash, terrorize and change minds. That is why the therapists tell you that the "program" takes so much time. The only thing that possibly benefited me was that I was better able to appreciate my freedom and home life because I had just spent time in HELL.