Escuela Caribe ~ New Horizons

[Anonymous]

Oh watever- let him write a post that I can fucking READ and then maybe I'll stop trolling....until then, fuck you.......NIGGER!  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

You guys are the ones that are fried! You have absoluetly "no idea" what these people are writing about because you haven't been there- instead you sit and surf the net causing more crap with your grim reaper personna and Nazi  attitude -should you be the ones that don't have the guts to now put your names down, as you degrade yourselves. Can't you see he cares?  So leave this for people who are trying to warn those people who are thinking about sending a loved one to this place  and put your crap on some other site.

quote="Guest"]If you're referring to "DARRYL LARE" then I agree 100%

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you. shut up. now.

[hanzomon4]

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P.S page 15 + 16 suck(read=wtf?) everything else is relevant

[Anonymous]

I teach at Escuela Caribe, and I believe your hostility towards our school is unmerited.



In regards to the "guilt by association" argument, Escuela Caribe is not related to Teen Help or any other organization.  It is part of New Horizons Youth Ministries which runs our school here in the D.R., a campus in Merion, Indiana, and a summer academy in Ontario, Canada.  We do not pay people to refer students to us; word-of-mouth is sufficient to direct interested parents to us.



I think you also misunderstand the type of students that we have here.  These are not your typical well-adjusted (more or less) high school students.  These students have already rejected a relationship with their parents and are involved in highly destructive activities (e.g., gangs, drug use or distribution, suicide attempts, living on the streets).  Believe me, we want these kids to have a relationship with their family, and the "psychological disorientation" produced by "culture shock" is an important ingredient in helping the students to realize that they want to have a relationship with their family.  We try to keep the environment as non-institutional as possible: students live in "houses" with houseparents.  The key to success here is relationship and love.  These kids (and families) have already had therapy (although we do that too), and it hasn't worked. We believe that it is through loving relationships that these kids will change.  So we love them.
 

Merion, huh? The letter e is a few key strokes from the letter "a". You are speaking of Marion, IN maybe? If you were even there and really are a staff? What subjects do you teach and what state are you licensed under to teach? Hopefully you are not one of the many unlicensed teachers or counselors on staff.

It is a complete fallacy that most of the students are as you described "highly destructive, in gangs, drug dealing, living on the streets". In fact we were average teens with not so average fundamentalist christian parents. NHYM perverted our parents fundamentalist beliefs and used a "violent love of Christ" on it's students that included stripping of students and scrubbing their bodies with harsh laundry brushes for punishment, denial of restroom facilities, denial of mattresses to sleep on, denial of food and water, & denial of health care. To see more testimonials of abuse please visit http://nhymalumni.org/

The house like home? What a joke. Sleeping 6 or more to a room, in constant group contact from dawn to dusk, no desk of your own at home, no comfy couch. Down time is even organized. Worse yet you are supervised constantly by someone who has as kooky, if not more so kooky fundamentalist beliefs as your parents and they hold the power in allowing you to go home. Private part inspections ordered by staff on other students. Slamming heads against walls for forgetting to ask to enter a room or not saying excuse me to a female staff. Kicking you if your push up wasn't perfect.  Chasing you around on motorcycle as punishment. Forcing kids to crap in buckets and carry it around. Making ill teens work with severe cases of diarrhea, even when dehydrated. Maybe your home and every fundamentalist home is like this  and you'd feel comfy in it. If so let me pray for you. You are a twisted teacher and shouldn't be near anyones kids.

[Anonymous]

New Horizons Youth Ministries

http://www.nhym.org/nh-history.html



Concept

Why in the Dominican Republic? There are three reasons: atmosphere, culture shock, and distance.


Culture shock? I attended Escuela Caribe 1981-82. The majority of the students are in complete isolation from Dominican culture. This is an example of the propaganda the program creates to lure parents into thinking this program will be good for their kids. That they will be exposed to "culture" in a missionary type setting.

I lived in Starr House, a girls dorm. We were kept locked up and far away from the Dominicans on the compound. Only the highest of rankers that had no "boy crazy" issues were allowed to make contact with Dominicans and then only other women.

Young Dominican males were called "Tigres". We were warned never to make eye contact with them and even at some points had to ride in our van with our heads down so as not to be seen by them. Dominican men love american teens and  have already encountered NHYM teens resulting in plane trips back to the US for a little OBGYN session. Hows that for culture shock? Lets see them put that in their pamphlet.

[Anonymous]

New Horizons Youth Ministries

http://www.nhym.org/nh-history.html



Concept

Why in the Dominican Republic? There are three reasons: atmosphere, culture shock, and distance.


Culture shock? I attended Escuela Caribe 1981-82. The majority of the students are in complete isolation from Dominican culture. This is an example of the propaganda the program creates to lure parents into thinking this program will be good for their kids. That they will be exposed to "culture" in a missionary type setting.

I lived in Starr House, a girls dorm. We were kept locked up and far away from the Dominicans on the compound. Only the highest of rankers that had no "boy crazy" issues were allowed to make contact with Dominicans and then only other women.

Young Dominican males were called "Tigres". We were warned never to make eye contact with them and even at some points had to ride in our van with our heads down so as not to be seen by them. Dominican men love american teens and  have already encountered NHYM teens resulting in plane trips back to the US for a little OBGYN session. Hows that for culture shock? Lets see them put that in their pamphlet.

Hi.

I wonder if anyone is reading this anymore.

I am SO disappointed in NHYM.

I have had two younger sisters in this program.  Our father died.  His wife (my step-mother) is totally consumed with her religion.  To the point where her religious activities have taken precedence over watching what's going on with her (then) teenaged daughters.  Hence, daughters got into tons of trouble.

So, she shipped them off to Escuela Caribe & Marion.

NHYM basically swallowed what mother spoon-fed them.  It was the KIDS who were bad.  Not the totally dysfunctional family from which they came.  It was the KIDS who needed to be "fixed".  Not the mother who's never home, never properly disciplines the kids, never steps-in and handles anything.  NHYM never did any family counseling.  And provided extremely limited resources for the parents to get their act together.  They just took the money and put the onus on the kids to shape-up  -  or else.

The first girl to come out of the NHYM program (to be specific - Escuela Caribe) promptly came home & smoked pot, dropped out of school & engaged in lesbian sex.  All while living with the mother who did nothing about it.  Oh, yeah - she bought her a car.

The second sister to come out of the NHYM program (Marion) promptly came home & started dating a bad-ass gangster-wannabe who she had sex with in her bedroom (while mother was out-of-state at a religious event).  He's abusive with her & has been sent to jail twice for beating her.  She continues to go back with him.  Also, this sister is smart but didn't go away to college.  Nobody cared.

In my humble opinion, NHYM is a JOKE!  The "education" these girls received was sub-standard at best.  Nothing was solved.  Nothing was helped.  A lot of money was spent.  And mom didn't have to deal with troubled girls - they were out of her hair & she could carry on with all the religious activities she wanted.  Yet, NHYM did not care enough, did not try hard enough, to see the REAL problems behind these girls lives.

I personally contacted Tim Blossom - and previously, Phil Redwine - to help give them a more rounded-out version of what was really happening in this household.  Obviously, to no avail.  They never suggested family counselling - nothing.  Ridiculous.

Anyway, I wish I could warn parents who are considering this "ministry".  I don't know if this helps anyone - but I hope so.

[Nihilanthic]

You're acting as if having lesbian sex is something to be sent to a program for???

[hanzomon4]

Yup, still read what you folks have to say. Have you been to the NHYM Alumni site? It's a site setup by former NHYM "students" to spread the truth about  what goes on in NH programs. A lot of good information there, so you(and your sisters) might want to check it out. There is also a yahoo group for survivors of NHYM you may wish to checkout, New Horizons Alumni Yahoo! Group.

[Anonymous]

You're acting as if having lesbian sex is something to be sent to a program for???

No, that's not what I said.  Sorry if I gave that impression.

What I was trying to say, was what happened after my sister came back from the program.

My step-mother is a super born-again Christian and devoted (to the extreme) Andrew Wommack follower.  Anyway, for a variety of reasons, my sisters got sent away into the NHYM programs.  And when they get home they're "worse" than before.  "Worse" being having casual (yes, lesbian) sex, pot-smoking, and dropping out of school.  

Anyway, my biggest problem, was that NHYM did not focus of the real serious problem.......the mother (father had died) who was never home (always at religious activities), never disciplined, never followed through on anything, threw lots of money at the kids (the problem) and then, when the going got really rough, she deposits them in NHYM where they then proceed to tell the kids that they're the ones who are wrong (bad) and need to be "fixed".  NOTHING was addressed about the mother's complete lack of parenting.  I do remember there being some kind of parent support groups about once a month in other parents' homes - and she really never went.  In fact, I remember she went to Joyce Meyers conferences, missions trips, bible college, shopping, restaurants, etc. all while her girls were taking cold showers, cutting grass with machetes, and having NO contact with friends or family.  The whole thing infuriates me.

Today, these girls are adults.  One is 23, divorced from her pot-smoking loser/no-job husband and is a single mother dating an alcoholic cocaine user.  She can barely pay her bills.  The other girl is 18 and is dating a gangster/thug wanna-be who has repeatedly beaten her & been jailed for doing-so.  She lives at home & the mom knows this is the situation with her "boyfriend" - yet mom continues to go to Andrew Wommack conferences all the time, bible college, etc.  In fact, last week, my sister ended up in the emergency room after having been choked and punched in the face by this guy in the family home.  Mom was in Colorado at an Andrew Wommack conference at the time.  

Yet NHYM, never picked-up on ANY of this ridiculousness.  Even after I called and discussed this with them on a couple of occassions.  I believe because it was the MOTHER paying the bills for this - and they didn't want to rock that boat.  So, they put the whole onus on the kids.  They're the ones who need treatment.

It's just wrong.  These girls came out of NHYM without any redeeming value from having been there.  The education sucked.  The whole thing just makes me very mad.

[Anonymous]

Yup, still read what you folks have to say. Have you been to the NHYM Alumni site? It's a site setup by former NHYM "students" to spread the truth about  what goes on in NH programs. A lot of good information there, so you(and your sisters) might want to check it out. There is also a yahoo group for survivors of NHYM you may wish to checkout, New Horizons Alumni Yahoo! Group.

Hi ~

thanks.  Yes, I did direct my sisters to these sites.  They really don't like to talk about, or remember, anything related to their stays at EC & Marion.  My one sister who was at EC (2000 - 2001) says it wasn't that bad.  She just doesn't really care about the whole thing anymore.  My other sister who was at Marion has deeper, more serious, emotional problems and is currently in a very abusive relationship - so the old Marion stuff is the least of her problems right now.

I'm involved because I am the oldest child of this family - and as a grown adult when our father died, I have really tried over the years to help care for my sisters and support their mother.  It's gotten to the point where there is really nothing I can do anymore and occassionally, when I 'm really frustrated, I look for help.  It's just one of those things where it seems like there's nothing you can do but pray.

[hanzomon4]

Well you can only do so much.....

Just be there for them like you have been and try to be a non-judgmental ear they can chose to use, or not. NHYM(especially EC) from what I've heard is horrible, it ranks up there with High Impact, Straight, Tranquility Bay... you get the idea. Even if they were not abused as bad as others, I'm sure they had to witness some "bad" "stuff". Not wanting to talk about it is common, they may want to never talk about it. It's not easy to face that kind of abuse but many do eventually face it and start talking.

The problems they have now is likely a result of what they went through. Ask most of the survivors on here and they will tell you that for the years after being in the program they either shut down or self destructed. I'd say it's part of PTSD, look at the trouble folks retuning from Iraq are facing, and the after effects of thought reform. It may take a while but they will heal. Having a person that cares about them, believes them when they chose to speak, and validates that what happened to them was wrong and not their fault I think goes a long way in helping along the healing process.

You could try looking for information on people who have been through complex, traumatic experiences for tips on how you can help. Goodluck

[Nihilanthic]

Abuse is abuse. This isn't about who suffered the most or comparing notes for validation.

[Anonymous]

Well you can only do so much.....

Just be there for them like you have been and try to be a non-judgmental ear they can chose to use, or not. NHYM(especially EC) from what I've heard is horrible, it ranks up there with High Impact, Straight, Tranquility Bay... you get the idea. Even if they were not abused as bad as others, I'm sure they had to witness some "bad" "stuff". Not wanting to talk about it is common, they may want to never talk about it. It's not easy to face that kind of abuse but many do eventually face it and start talking.

The problems they have now is likely a result of what they went through. Ask most of the survivors on here and they will tell you that for the years after being in the program they either shut down or self destructed. I'd say it's part of PTSD, look at the trouble folks retuning from Iraq are facing, and the after effects of thought reform. It may take a while but they will heal. Having a person that cares about them, believes them when they chose to speak, and validates that what happened to them was wrong and not their fault I think goes a long way in helping along the healing process.

You could try looking for information on people who have been through complex, traumatic experiences for tips on how you can help. Goodluck

Hi Hanzomon4 ~

Thank you for your kind words.

Yes, both of these girls (well, now 22 & 19) have been through a lot.  Our father died - and he was a truly wonderful, normal, loving father.  But the home was pretty dysfunctional as my step-mother (their mother) was (is) a really fanatic born-again (she of course became that way after my dad married her) & some weird stuff went on in that home for a long time.  

But more than that, was the neglect of these kids, especially all the years dad was sick.  The mom just went to church, & church-related activities ALL THE TIME and the girls just went from bad to worse.  When it got super-bad - off they were shipped to NHYM to be "fixed".  Lot of good that did.

I'm just amazed & bewildered that NHYM takes these kids - MANY from troubled homes  - and then lays it on the kids that THEY are the ones who are troubled & need help.

When my one sister was @ Marion, there was a very young girl there - about 12 yrs. old who (according to my sister) had been molested, abused, etc.  She was a scared kid acting out.  She ran away from Marion.  When she was brought back they cut all her hair off as punishment for running away!!!  Can you imagine doing that to a poor, scared 12 year old girl!!  What the hell kind of "punishment" is that??  

I'm not saying every single thing that went on within the NHYM programs is "bad".  I'm sure some of the things they do are loving and caring.  But, over-all it seems to me like a bunch of un-professionals are running the show and relying on their religion to fix everything - without really trying to understand some of the underlying, complex issues surrounding these troubled kids.  And not to mention the VERY POOR education they offer.  The whole thing is a (sad) joke.

I guess I'm really upset now because last week my youngest sister (the one who was at Marion) was beaten (for the second time) by her gangster/thug boyfriend & sent to the emergecy room (he went to jail) .......all while the mother was in Colorado at yet another Andrew Wommack conference.  This type of stuff has been going on for a long time and it's just so frustrating to see problems being constantly swept under the rug.  And, in my opinion, NHYM was the perfect "rug" for a while.  Sweep the kid under the NHYM rug - and let them deal with it for a while.  Well, at least in our family, that's exactly what happened.  And NHYM should be more in tune with parents who pull that shit and not allow that!  But they did.  They did NO family counseling (in fact, we were totally cut-off from our sisters except for very brief - and I should say monitored phone calls once in a blue moon).  I'm just so aggravated that this kind of stuff goes on.

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A documentary is currently being made about Escuela Caribe. It looks like it's going to be really good, here's the trailer:
http://vimeo.com/35042262

They are asking for donations to help complete the film:
http://documentary.org/fsp/3846

Here's their facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/kidnappedforchrist?sk=info

[Oscar]

Documentary Alleges Gay Teen Kidnapped, Sent to Evangelical Boot Camp, Ex-gay watch