PS.... LOVE THAT COMMENT YOU SAID ABOUT GIL AFTER ALL YOUR ADVOCATING....DID THEY TEACH YOU THAT TOO.STILL SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ON A MENTAL POINT SHEET!
quote="Guest"]I am Jon Burchel.
I was in the Dominican Republic and in Marion. The allegations of abuse which I have heard are all from people whom I also know to have been, and currently to REMAIN, in many cases (Gil Meyersdorf, Josh Sierk, Julia Scheeres) pathological liars, or supporters of them, even knowingly, because the lies they spew can help their agenda, which is to avenge an old gruge because they never grew up and REALIZED why they were down there in the first place, and what they needed to do to move on and live a better life than they had before.
They have this huge forum over at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Escuela_Caribe/.
I joined, because a friend referred me and I thought it was an alumni group, you know, get in touch with old friends, reminisce about the fun we had and the comardarie, what not, the staff members we still miss to this day, and love....
But what I found was a bunch of pathetic whiners, mostly, and some well intentioned but misled innocents as well, but at the head of that beast over there, Julia Scheeres, bitter, hateful and raging and stuck on abuses she imagines but never experienced - I was there with the bat. Her and Josh Sierk are batty as hell, and are bent on revenge against their hated enemies. But the one who takes the cake over there is Gil. Read this below, an account of how Gil deceieved me for craven purposes and cruelly, to try to advance his pathetic agenda against the only people who ever could have helped him, most likely. Now apparently he lives in a fantasy world where he works for the Mossad and deals in anti-terrorism work. Yet, his email exchanges with me revealed him to be vastly ignorant of most basic network security knowledge, and as he demonstrated himself to be capable of any degree of deception, I no longer trust ANYTHING he says about himself, AND ESPECIALLY those lies he and his pals have spewed about the place that saved my life.
I love New Horizons, and thank them, even though they are made of humans, and every human makes errors. When they did, though, they were corrected, addressed. They were fair, and full of integrity.
Here is my testimony against Gil to that forum, which was removed by Julia and Josh and he immediately thereafter, and I have remained banned ever since while Gil spews lies that he has been hacked and I am spoofing the whole thign. I offered legal proof of the entire exchange, including originating computers, timestamps and content. He didn't bother to respond, merely attacked me again. Josh attacked also, interestingly, without bothering to request any sign of the proof I offered freely (and still do). Julia, she is the White Queen over there, the head of their politburo, and made the "call" to just ban me AND remove the relevant posts... Such a nasty affair, rather just move on (well, except from those percieved abuses they made up from decades ago).
Here's the original post:
This is my final post in your forum. I do wish you all the best (those who did not deceive me at least)!
I cannot believe it! The level some people will stoop to.
Last night, I was moved. I read quickly a note the housefather on here had written, that he was going to bed and had put the kids down. It was touching to me, I remembered how it was, the camaraderie of the house, something I have never had much before or since, sadly for me. :`( But anyway, boo hoo.. So I was writing an email privately to thank the house father for his work there and also for his commitment to be in the forum, which I think is good and kind, and shows he is committed to the kids who are gone, not just the kids he is serving now. But somehow, I got the wrong address?
Normally, when I email to the wrong address, the person will email back, tell me I got it wrong.
But no, Gilly Gil didn?t do that. He asked me who I thought he was. So I said, innocently, ?the house father?. And he proceeded to ensnare me in a long conversation as though he were the house father. Many of his initial responses in email were consistent with what I would expect a house father to say, encouragement for my walk with God, etc.
But then he started talking about what must be done to stop these people. My advice to him, my ?dastardly plan? to ?thwart you guys?? It was to allow things to proceed exactly as they are, and trust the truth is found out on its own by God?s hand. Pretty nasty stuff, huh? Oh yeah, lest I forget, I also suggested? hide the kids? that New Horizons might establish an official alumni site open to all former staff and students period, and where the only rules are no profanity, basic decency (none of which I EVER violated in here, despite your continual cries that I attacked you, I just made arguments contrary to your positions generally, I have reread all my posts, but never mind the truth, right, if it is inconvenient for your agenda?)
But I guess Gil wasn?t satisfied with that. He replied that yes, this was already being worked on (whatever that meant) by someone else, but they needed me for a special job, they had been praying for someone. Well, this seems just right up my alley, New Horizons needed me for work, and I have retired for the most part now, and do not much but play around and surf the web and work out, so have hoped and prayed fervently for some purpose in my life, something to do you know, that could matter, beyond just for myself. So I thought this might be God giving me an opportunity to serve. Of course, then, I replied, YES, whatever they needed of me, I would love to help the program. But I admitted, I didn?t know how I could help them. I told him my wealth is limited and I cannot make large donations if I intend to live out my days in peace without going broke, so what could I do? I told him I am ok with words, good at arguing, and persuasive sometimes, maybe I can testify in court if they bring lawsuits against the program which are frivolous, I volunteered to do that, to write letters of recommendation for the program reflecting my own experience, whatever!
But still, old Gilly Gil wasn?t satisfied? He probed further, was elusive in his language, trying to ensnare me. I will post the entire transcript of our exchange last night if anyone doubts it, and I can prove it all, the records are in the network permanently and irretrievably, much to Gil?s lame realization, only too late.
Now, in these emails to the ?house father?, I was being emotional as I tend to be, you know? I confessed my sin, told him I was not sure I could actually serve the program in any productive way, as I am mired in my sins, which I have mentioned previously, and am unable to do much but please myself it seems, as far as for God. I was speaking from the heart. Apparently Gilly Gil thought that was cute, because he kept on going.
He told me I should start deleting my emails between us. This raised a red flag, or should have, but it was by then late, and I figured, maybe I am ignorant, there are people who are seeking to do harm that are more serious and dastardly than anything I had imagined, who knew? At any rate, this gullible fool me did not hesitate long enough, I consented, started deleting the emails (from my local machine, luckily, only). I didn?t really take it seriously, I mean, I know how the net works, but I thought, if it makes him happy that I did, maybe that is fine, I will honor his request.
But then he started saying how they wanted someone to strike God?s wrath on ?these people?. So I was very disturbed. I immediately replied I did not understand what he could mean, what he could be referring to, that God would never have me violate the law, etc. But I agreed, sure, within the bounds of the law (meaning in the arena of ideas, as we live in a civil society and everybody knows that), I would do all I could to thwart what in some cases I see as being unjust attacks on those who are doing God?s work.
Immediately, of course, he backed off, he realized my character could not be tricked by his stupid ploy, and it was pointless. He then just proceeded to try to make me feel as though New Horizons was rejecting my service, because I didn?t ?make the grade?, just told me they were very concerned about me and would pray Satan did not take me back, etc., that he could not believe I would imagine they would ever suggest such a thing as violate the law (what else could ?deliver God?s wrath? have meant, jerk?) and then stopped replying to all my emails suddenly. I was distraught, he had told me in the previous emails that they were ?rejoicing? over finding me to help them in some unique way for which only I appeared to be qualified. I figured they were dazzled by my blazingly brilliant intellect, wanted me to do something with that. I was disappointed, they just were looking for a hit man or something??! Buddha on a stick!! What was I to think? I loved these people and thought they were righteous? I finally just went to bed.
In the morning, still, no reply from old tricky Gilly Gil. I was very sad. I thought I had blown my chance to serve in some unique way, but also, I was confused, why would the people I had trusted try to ensnare me in some evil apparently, doing something to harm people who disagreed with the program or whatnot. But then it hit me, in the very beginning, Gil had asked who I thought he was. I just said, ?the housefather?, and trusted the person I was speaking to was not a pathological liar. Obviously that was a serious mistake, and I was very naïve? I checked the email out, ran through the history of more posts than I had previously (there are thousands of them, you can?t expect I have read every single one on my first couple days, I just read recent ones at first, but quite a few of them, just was not following closely who was who, didn?t realize I would need to be careful, you know). I realized Gil is opposed to the program. I realized he was no house father. He was tricking me cruelly and callously and cravenly to try to ensnare and twist the truth, a deceiver in every way!
I proceeded to verbally tear old Gil a new asshole via emails, if you?ll pardon the term (but I was not the first member of your esteemed forum to introduce this language, recall, just the first one to be chastised for my style of writing and insulted over and over and condescended to with shallow apologies that admitted no real offense, only perception or ?lack of patience for fools?). To which he replied lamely that his email ?appeared to have been hijacked?, and to follow that with threats that I have ?violated several laws? and he will try to prosecute me in Canada and ?inform the authorities?. Ok, Gilly Gil, whatever you say? He even said I had agreed to commit terrorist acts! Hahaha Obviously not realizing I have a full transcript of our entire conversation, and have no reason to fear whatsoever.
If anyone doubts, I can post the entire pathetic conversation with timestamps, IP addresses, for proof, I am happy to, I could even get Google to provide a sworn affidavit that it is not altered from what is stored in their server cluster if anyone demands it, sure. :wink: Would just take some time, and I?m not paying for it if it costs anything, you will have to pay, as the inquisitor.
But this should go a long way to illustrate for any of the willing, that the people most opposed to the program in here may be willing to do things, even distort the truth or lie outright, or hurt someone?s feelings without even caring (as Gil did mine with his petty deception) in order to advance an agenda against perceived abuses which are petty compared to actual abuses going on all around us in the world every day, just to try to get revenge, I still allege that is the real motivation for much of what I have seen here. Allison is an exception, some others, but the dominant negative posters appear bent on revenge, IMHO.
So curse me, sure. ?Stand up for yourself? all you want Josh, I am not trying to attack you anyway, I never did once. It was all of you who attacked me, while sidestepping all my arguments, dismissing them as boring or clutter in your glorious pristine email inboxes. You are all whitewashed sepulchers, I swear, nothing ever changes in this world, not in 6000 years?
But the world is changing soon, and I will welcome a better day when it arrives. You will all benefit from it too, deserve it or not, if you live that long. J
Gil, you are FAT and UGLY in that picture of you which you posted. Figures somebody that ugly would grow up to be a pathological liar.
Jon
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