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« Reply #120 on: June 01, 2005, 09:31:00 PM »
Jon, you know me. It's Elizabeth. Email me about it if you want.  I was abused. Dre and Jewels saw it happened.  We saw other things at the house, too.  You must have had a good house father.  You know, some things go on at the house that no one else knows about.  Did you ever think of that?  These aren't lies. :exclaim:
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« Reply #121 on: June 08, 2005, 01:50:00 AM »
I thought she worked for Falcon Ridge as Director
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« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2005, 01:31:00 AM »
So, everyone else is lying then, is that it?  All the students (and the one who is writing the book), that's just fiction, uh?  They just don't have anything better to do with their time, 15 some years later?  

You aren't honestly suggesting that a visit, in the capacity of a visitor allows you the same perspective as being a child taken away from country, family, friends, etc...are you?  I am married to a former student.  I have seen FIRST HAND the horrific damage the program has done, how it has affected my husband, emotionally, physically, spiritually.  It is devastating.  I am infuriated by people such as yourself who speak so irresponsibly about something you obviously have extremely little knowledge of.  Do you know what children need?  Love.  Compassion. Discipline. Structure. Empathy.  None of this was apparent to my husband, who suffered for 21 months. Let me tell you one thing that my husband did gain from his experience.  He knows how to be a loving, good father.  How did he learn this?  Certainly not from the program. It is because of the abuse he suffered at the hands of so-called "professionals" or "Christians," that he is more determined than ever to never allow our boys to be hurt in the horrific way he was. If you have such conviction about New Horizons, why don't you have the character to give your name??    :wstupid:
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« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-09 22:31:00, clnethery wrote:

"So, everyone else is lying then, is that it?  All the students (and the one who is writing the book), that's just fiction, uh?  They just don't have anything better to do with their time, 15 some years later?  



You aren't honestly suggesting that a visit, in the capacity of a visitor allows you the same perspective as being a child taken away from country, family, friends, etc...are you?  I am married to a former student.  I have seen FIRST HAND the horrific damage the program has done, how it has affected my husband, emotionally, physically, spiritually.  It is devastating.  I am infuriated by people such as yourself who speak so irresponsibly about something you obviously have extremely little knowledge of.  Do you know what children need?  Love.  Compassion. Discipline. Structure. Empathy.  None of this was apparent to my husband, who suffered for 21 months. Let me tell you one thing that my husband did gain from his experience.  He knows how to be a loving, good father.  How did he learn this?  Certainly not from the program. It is because of the abuse he suffered at the hands of so-called "professionals" or "Christians," that he is more determined than ever to never allow our boys to be hurt in the horrific way he was. If you have such conviction about New Horizons, why don't you have the character to give your name??    :wstupid: "


Is this Chris N.wife in Chicago? If so tell him to get in contact with Gil.
Also, the people that support the school and do not give there names are usually staff members and hopefully they will see that they are abusing children.

The new website about NHYM is back online feel free to drop by. http://www.nhym-alumni.com

peace,
Gil
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« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2005, 12:57:00 PM »
Jon, you do not know what you were talking about.  you were notup in that house with us at night.  Deirdre saw ME be abused as well as others, so give it up!

--Elizabeth :flame:
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« Reply #125 on: December 22, 2005, 01:47:00 AM »
The website "The Truth About New Horizons Youth Ministries" has moved:

http://nhym-alumni.com/

http://http://nhym-alumni.org/

Please update your bookmarks!
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« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2006, 12:57:00 PM »
just e-mail me at robertallenwilbur@gmail.com.  I'm beginning to use this address just to disseminate info about the evil which goes on at Escuela Caribe and the other NHYM locations.  My girlfriend is a survivor of 2 1/2 years there, and is still recovering from PTSD 10 years later.  It has become my life goal to shut them down.  Please write to ask me anything, or to help in the upcoming fight.  I promise to answer all inquiries.
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« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2006, 07:41:00 PM »
i would have to agree that bitterness does win out, i was there for two years as well and although some of the staff were really cool, i feel that the way things were handled sometimes was humiliating and wrong.
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« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2006, 07:52:00 PM »
hi, i just read your blog.  You might want to be careful what you assume about everyone who is sent to new horizons.  I was never into drugs or alcohol or any of that stuff. I was also a virgin.  don't believe me, thats ok because i know the truth.  I was sent away by Aunt when I was sixteen years old.  I was homeschooled my whole life and lived with my four older cousins.  I couldn't get along with my relatives, so I was sent away to NYM.  I got up on the level system quickly.  I was sent to the D.R.  right before my eighteenth birthday when I was on fourth level! Talk about tramatizing.  I do think that there are some who fit the catagory, but unfortunately there are some who don't belong in the category of troubled youth.  I feel a bit cheated of child hood and am obviously dealing with this, probably why I am on this website. haha.  suggestion, don't judge before you know who you are dealing with.
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« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2006, 11:29:00 AM »
I just read "Jesus Land" about Julia Scheeres's time at Escuela Caribe, and it's quite haunting. I recommend it!
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« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2006, 01:17:00 PM »
Gil:
Kontaktieren Sie mich. Sie gut? Wo sind Sie? Erwidern Sie auf Deutsch oder Englisch. Ich hatte in Bayern gelebt.
Ihr alter Klassenkamerad von Escula Caribe,
Nick
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« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2006, 03:59:54 PM »
Having been a "student " in this "outfit", one day, having been 21 years ago , decided to click on Escuela Caribe and literally ached
 to read the Alumni Q&A on www.nhym-alumni.org. Now I am an Aliumni with a Q&A  that is posted ( at this time: 09 /19/06, still waiting) describing some of my events that happened.
  At this particular time at the end of this month , there is to be a Founder's Day , commemorating Gordon Blossom , the one who deceived me about this "program" and are going to picket with concerns as to the physical and emotional abuse , humiliation, demoralization, etc that this oppressor bestows. I have major concerns as to the interior of this outfit as they express pictures of happiness, unity, etc- contrary to what actually occurs on the exterior, and some of the aftermath(s) have literally caused drug  overdoses, and other things that makes a former, relapse.
  I hope they do shut  down, only to be replaced by an organization/ church that is accountable and is known for being a "true church", because the populus getting in touch with this organization will   again  have opinions that can be attributed to the Jim and Tammy Fay scandel, Waco, and other examples contrary to the "true" God that we try to represent.
   I am doing something  to try to hopefully bring fruition and give a better ending to this saga of conflict and controversy ,so it may be a scenario that brings people to a further personal understanding . I would appreciate those prayers of those who do believe and know what I am talking about and maybe help in supporting this cause once it hopefully gets to a point where it is revolutionizing . To end , this is what I really think of the place.... :evil:    

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Escuela Caribe sounds like another extremely abusive BMP. Terrorize and remove children from their entire support system including thier families.  Hopefully this place will also be shut down.  Antigen: How long has this place been

around - is it associated with teen help or another organization?



Atmosphere: It is necessary to have a sound and wholesome atmosphere to re-establish order in one?s life. The tranquil, quiet setting of Escuela Caribe is set far away from the pervasive influences in American society; the materialism, social ills, negative peers, and the power struggles in one?s family. Students are able to work , play, and grow in a peaceful atmosphere.



 Culture Shock: Culture shock is a form of psychological disorientation produced by a sudden and complete change in one?s cultural environment. The effect is proportional to the contrast between the individual?s normal cultural milieu and that in which they are subsequently immersed. A change in climate, racial differences, geographical surroundings, mode of transportation, diet, friends, daily routines, coinage, and language all tend to make adolescents remarkably more dependent upon others for direction and emotional support. This also renders them more malleable and capable of new perspectives. This condition greatly  enhances meaningful communication, offering young people extraordinary occasions for making enriching discoveries that inspire personal growth.



Distance: Time apart for a family can be very beneficial. Although it can be a painful decision, parents soon realize this time was needed in order to recoup and heal. While living in another country in a structured environment, teens start to appreciate mom and dad (absence makes the heart grow fonder). Students begin to share their parents? dream of being a united family again.



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ABUSE AND YOUR CLAIM ABOUT ANONYMITY
« Reply #132 on: September 19, 2006, 05:26:01 PM »
I AM TELLING YOU "MY " NAME AND YOUR THINKING OF ANONYMITY.I WAS A STUDENT FROM 79=83 AND WAS "DECEIVED " BY THE FOUNDER. I HAD ISSUES AT HOME , BUT THOUGHT THE DR WAS A GIFT FROM HEAVEN "WRONG"
MAYBE YOUR GETTING EXTRA CASH UNDER THE TABLE TRYING TO BE SUPPORTIVE , BUT AS PHIL REDWINE TOLD ME ONE DAY "I DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE DR!". I DIDN'T "CONFORM " AKA "FRONT" SO I WAS TARGETED BY THEM AND WAS ABUSED BECAUSE OF NOT "CONFORMING"  TO THEIR CULT LIKE WAYS. I "CONSTANTLY" DEALT WITH THE HUMILIATION, ETC. SO I DON'T "REALLY : KNOW WHERE YOUR AT , BUT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU PLAYED THEIR "GAME" AND WON. THESE PEOPLE WHOM YOU SPOKE ABOUT ARE "NOT LYING" AND HAVE ANOTHER TO PROVE THEIR AUTHENTICITY . SO 'BIRD'S UP' TO YOUR THINKIN' , DUDE!    
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I'm not a user of this system, but I am not afraid to tell you I am Jon Burchel, in the DR as a student in 90-91, in Marion in 91.  See my post above.



All the claims of abuse are being made by anonymous posters...



If you expect ANYONE to believe you, you should put your money where your mouths are and sign affidavits, or at least put your pathetic NAMES on your posts?!  Hell people!



I was never abused, I never witnessed abuse except for one borderline situation, and that house father was fired and disgraced when the facts came to light (because I later went to another staff member who promptly reported it up the chain of command in the program's hierarchy of authority, as he should have)



Pathetic jokes, these bitter people who refused to grow when they had the chance, now they are calcified in 13 year old minds, most of them...



Jon Burchel

UNAFRAID AND TELLING THE TRUTH AND PROUD OF IT
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« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2006, 05:31:10 PM »
Kids don't deserve no goddamn rights, cuz they ain't no better than a bunch of fuckin NIGGERS! If mine ever try to "assert their rights" I'm gonna drag 'em out to the woodshed and tear up their uppity little asses!
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Your racist comment
« Reply #134 on: September 19, 2006, 05:43:53 PM »
Schmuck!

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Kids don't deserve no goddamn rights, cuz they ain't no better than a bunch of fuckin NIGGERS! If mine ever try to "assert their rights" I'm gonna drag 'em out to the woodshed and tear up their uppity little asses!
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