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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2003, 06:26:00 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2003, 07:48:00 PM »
school was the main reason, yes we had other problems, no drugs or problems with the law, just fighting, argueing, she wanted to do things and expected me just to let her. it was when she was cutting school i had to do something, i still dont believe, you went there and he was eating ribs,salad,   HEY DID HE GET ICE CREAM TOO???? :lol:
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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2003, 08:01:00 PM »
heres an intresting fact, most of the girls in dundee did not have their menstrual cycle, only a few, (im sure upper levels) other mothers have ask me also about this,  could it be malnutrition??? :???:
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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2003, 08:41:00 PM »
Malnutrition? Highly possible. But it could be stress. That is the one thing my son wrote to me over and over  and I didn't get it. He was constantly telling me how stressed he was. It would be stressful to think that if you instinctively look up when someone walks in a room you could end up in OP if it just happens to be a member of the opposite sex.
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2003, 09:20:00 PM »
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On 2003-06-26 13:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No contradiction - If my son tells me NOW, after being home for over two years that he had been abused I would believe him.  He trusts me, I trust him.  We don't always agree, but that's life. He told me he was being abused and starving when he first arrived and I didn't believe him, though I did go and check it out in person.  I had to BE clear on this as a responsible parent.  I watched him while he ate barbeque ribs, salad, green beans and rice.  Good food and plenty of it. No starvation there.  I came unannounced and was welcomed.  No secrecy there. I saw what you say is the OP room, though they call it something different at his school.  Door was open, the kid in there smiled at me - no biggie - no different than being sent to your room for a time out except the smile.  As for his allegations of abuse, didn't happen - no point in telling you what I did to confirm this..it was not happening.  



I am not familiar with other schools, Straight, CEDU, Elan, etc., so I have no experience of them. I am telling my truth, my first hand knowledge, nothing more.  



Carey - you made it sound like a "child/student" was molested at Dundee - that's not what happened, and you know it. What happened is why Amberly Knight is no longer the Director in my opinion. I don't believe the newspaper quotes on what Ken Kay said either ---her wanting to find a boyfriend, etc. I'd also be interested to hear how your husband admitted your boys without your knowledge.   Wouldn't BEING with your family and growing and having fun together be more important than getting revenge against your ex-husband?



This board does it's job.  If I were a parent looking for help I wouldn't send my kid to WWASP after reading the hatred here- too bad, it's the best in helping the whole family from my extensive experience.  Nothing is perfect, but it was perfect for us.   But of course, no parent should ever send their kid away, whether it be a week long girl scout camp against their will, private school or a specialty boarding school for troubled teens in your opinions.  My mom sent me to a girl scout camp - kicking and screaming - when I didn't want to go, and I ended up having a wonderful experience, despite the mosquitos, bugs and snakes (and the rice and beans!) I know, that's different...  



Antigen - I am so sorry your experience at Straight was the way it was.  I guess I would have begun a sounding board too.  You have a vision and a passion for what you are doing.  So many people don't.  I don't agree with it, but that's not my place.



P.S. - ALL my son's credits transferred.He graduated high school recently and has enrolled in a midwestern university to be an electrical engineer this fall.  This would not have happened without my intervention and his commitment to himself as he had already stopped going to high school.   A lot of the kids won't do their school work in the beginning - but that's not the main reason they're there anyway.  If Morseglass admitted his kid for academics only, I would question why??  Blame is such a useless waste of energy.  Sounds like there was more than academic problems involved here.



I've enjoyed the interaction here - whatever will be will be - with or without me.  "
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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2003, 09:25:00 PM »
Malnutrition:  Low body weight causes you to stop producing estrogen, halting ovulation. Women who are malnurished often experience estrogen shutdown and don't have periods.
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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2003, 11:43:00 PM »
It makes me physically sick to read these posts written by persons who care more about protecting some institutionalized-style program than they do their own children. How many more red flags must be raised before these parents start acting like responsible adults instead of spineless sponsors?
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« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2003, 01:38:00 AM »
I agree with ANON on the school in Utah - if that's where she is talking about.  I too have seen the "OP" time out room. My kid earned his way there many times - It's not hidden or locked - just a time out - believe it or not if you wish.  The food is great - ate there often ---never had ice cream though! Sweets are not allowed very often (Oh that's abuse!!)  Funny how I came on this site tonight - ugly little place it seems.  Guess I should get back to my brainwashing...see ya'll..
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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2003, 03:28:00 AM »
The only thing I'm wishing is these program parents get as much publicity as they can b/c every time they open their mouths, it's downright obvious how out-to-lunch they really are!!!

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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2003, 05:31:00 PM »
check out the tico times or woodbury reports online.  i saw an article that says two lawfirms out in california are filing a class action against the entire association of schools.
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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2003, 05:59:00 PM »
thanks for your post.  i too was on the wwasp parents board, searching for something to quel that urgent sense that something just wasn't right about that place, why hadn't they thought my son was "good" enuf to speak to me yet, what could he have done that was so terrible after 3 weeks he couldn't speak to his mother????? he never did drugs, drank, always knew where he was, with whom, their parents, always called when he was running late, he was there for skipping school, and for being disrespectful.  and, what if my son is mentally ill and i hadn't fully explored that possibility (i have now, and he is) and what could putting a mentally ill child in that situation do for their illness, (physical abuse, mental abuse, restraints) my son had a breakdown.  he told me the first thing they did was take him to a room, buz his hair, wrestle him to the ground, said the guys stomach was on his face and he couldn't breath, the guy telling him not to think he was a tough guy or try anything, his agressor was the state champion at wresting.  His first freakin day, actually, i was still there, talking to the director, first 1/2 hour there.  if i'd only known!
AT that point, poor nathan didn't even have a clue what was in store, he thought he was going to a boys' school to get his grades back on track, make friends with kids that had the same problems as him that could relate, academic problems, etc, get his life back on track, that maybe he'd be on their soccer team, he played soccer for ten years and he is good, that he'd be a shoo in for the team.  
for three months after he came home, nobody, not at home or when he went to my sisters' houses, to his dad's house or anywhere could anyone use the bathroom without nathan standing outside, waiting for them to come out.  this really freaked my sister out, she said what is with that, why does he do that? his teachers at school commented on his behaviors, saying specifically, he never exhibited these behaviors before he went to the NY school.  his explanation for the reason he does certain things is "at school you have to wait till they are done with the bathroom" his reasons always started with "at school".  I would wake up hearing him screaming and crying in his sleep.  I was alarmed getting up in the middle of the night, my son, tears in his eyes, just standing there outside the bathroom door.  what in the Fu_k happened to him there??? i remember the looks on those kids' faces, lined up in the hall when i went there to get him, i will never in my life forget.  nathan was there for 3-1/2 weeks.  my god, think what mental state he'd be in if he had to endure that for a prolonged period of time?  He has never been the same since that place.  i don't think i'll ever forgive myself
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2003, 06:08:00 PM »
my son lost over twenty pounds in 3-1/2 weeks.
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2003, 07:56:00 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2003, 11:28:00 PM »
My son gained 25lbs in 3 months. You wanna talk to me??  hehehehehe - didn't think so.  ::boohoo::
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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2003, 02:14:00 AM »
Only those who are brave enough will stand up against the abuse, others hide behind the cultish approval.
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