Carl and Holly G.

[thepatriot]

Anyone remember these two names?

[Antigen]

Indeed I do! I spoke to both of them on the phone around the time of the last conference. I don't think I hung onto their contact info. But Carl is still in the area, as I understand it, so he should be pretty easy to find.

the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
--Thomas Szasz

[thepatriot]

Thanks Ginger, always wondered what happened to them, did Carl 7 step?

[Antigen]

Eh, you should ask him. Actually, you should probably also obscure their surname. That's just my opinion, though, not forum policy.

Here's freedom to him who would read;
 
Here's freedom to him who would write;

None ever feared that the truth should be heard,

But them that the truth would indict.


--author unknown (circa 1914)