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« on: April 11, 2004, 08:22:00 PM »
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Troubled teens spanked; program's license pulled

 
Michael Ferraresi
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 2, 2004 12:00 AM


SCOTTSDALE - The state revoked an evangelical Christian group's license to work with troubled teens after a youth with "extensive bruising" from supervised spankings was removed from a northeast Valley group home.

The emergency action against Teen Reach, which has a history of licensing violations in Arizona and Ohio, effectively shuts down the controversial organization, which charges parents upward of $35,000 for six months of drug rehabilitation.

Teen Reach has until today to appeal the state Department of Economic Security's revocation of its license to operate a child welfare agency.

Teen Reach was found to have flown out-of-state parents into the Valley to spank kids, according to the state.



The ongoing investigation was prompted last month when a child reported the ritualistic spankings to Child Protective Services.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2004, 08:32:00 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2004, 08:34:00 PM »
What's interesting is that Arizona is a State where teens CANNOT be held for any reason without their consent to be there.  Why would a kid report this if he can walk out any time.  Reporting abuse is a grand way for kids to have their parents come and get them, but it's another when there was nothing to keep this youth there.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2004, 08:37:00 PM »
http://www.teenreach.com/legal/AFFIDAVI ... 5B1%5D.pdf

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but in reading this affidavit from a "teen" it looks too "advanced" for a teen to have written it. ??
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2004, 10:00:00 PM »
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Teen Reach founder fires back at state
 
Dave Seibert/The Arizona Republic

?We're still in operation,? Teen Reach founder Bobby Torres said during a church service Friday in Scottsdale.
 
Michael Ferraresi
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 3, 2004 12:00 AM


Members of an evangelical Christian group rallied around their pastor Friday as he accused state officials of "abducting" eight adult church members and depriving them of their religious liberties.

Bobby Torres, a former gang member and founder of the Teen Reach program, also said he filed an appeal Friday to keep six drug and alcohol rehab facilities from being shut down.

"We're still in operation," Torres said Friday during a service at Teen Reach's church in the Scottsdale Airpark. "We're still taking children (as patients)."

State officials ordered Teen Reach's group homes to close after finding a child had been severely bruised in a "supervised spanking."

 

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Teen Reach charges parents as much as $35,000 for six months of drug and alcohol rehabilitation in a faith-based, "cold-turkey" program that many parents regard as a last resort for their troubled teens.

On Friday, Torres accused state Child Protective Services workers of "abducting" eight adult Bible school students from a house on Thunderbird Road last month during the investigation into the spanking allegation.

He said eight adults, some as young as 18, were confronted by CPS workers during a Bible study at a Teen Reach house and were forced outside. In the process, he said, some were verbally and physically abused, and their faith was mocked.

Torres presented affidavits from all eight.

David Matthews, director of the Department of Economic Security licensing office, who ordered the homes shut down, said caseworkers did only what was necessary to investigate the abuse allegations against Teen Reach.

"These (Bible students) are people who simply refused to cooperate," Matthews said. "We had a list of children we were looking for. . . . I believe CPS, with the (Phoenix) police and with a court order, took the action necessary.

"Had (Teen Reach) cooperated, the adults would have never been removed, period."

Matthews said he ordered the homes shut down after CPS reported that four or more of the group's adults pinned a child to the ground, and another lay across the child's back, so a parent could administer a spanking.

"It has nothing to do with any belief system," Matthews said. "There is no agency in the state that is permitted to beat a child."

Torres said Friday that Teen Reach condones supervised spanking as a form of faith-based rehabilitation.

In addition to the group homes, Teen Reach has 15 other properties around the Valley that house graduates from the program, other ministers and students.

Those operations have not been affected.

More than 50 members of Teen Reach's evangelical community turned out to support Torres at the group's church at 7645 E. Evans Road in Scottsdale.

Parents, too, voiced their support.

Paul Rastello of Phoenix said his 12-year-old son was "transformed" after praying with Torres.

Rastello said Teen Reach's spanking methods taught him the "belief systems and the steps taken to nurture" his son, who had been placed in more than one rehabilitation program.

"You explain to your child what has happened, what the consequences are, you pray about it, and after the spanking is done, it's done," Rastello said. "We used to go out for dinner, go out for ice cream, do something different (after the spanking)."

Meanwhile, neighbors of two Teen Reach properties said the homes have caused disturbances for several years and should be shut down.

Bernard Anderson, who lives next to the Thunderbird Road property where the eight Bible students were confronted, said he and other neighbors worked with Phoenix to institute a parking ban next to what Teen Reach called "God's Favorite House."

"We couldn't get in and out of the driveway," Anderson said. "If we brought people over for Sunday dinner, they couldn't find any place to park."

Charlie Ferrell lives next to a Teen Reach property on East Sharon Drive that he claims is a commercial business illegally operating in a residential neighborhood.

Ferrell said he has photos of Teen Reach members unloading commercial printing equipment from a truck.

"It's a mess, no one would want to live across from it," Ferrell said. "There's 50 to 100 cars that drive over there every day."
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2004, 10:01:00 PM »
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Teen Reach probe continues
State officials seeking legal action against the organization

Michael Ferraresi
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 7, 2004 12:00 AM


Faced with a Thursday deadline to appeal an emergency order to close down his group homes after a child was found seriously bruised from a spanking, Teen Reach president Bobby Torres said the state has no right to regulate his Christian organization.

 

FYI
?  Teen Reach founder fires back at state
?  Troubled teens spanked; program's license pulled

Timeline of controversy
MAY 2001: The Department of Economic Security begins investigating Teen Reach after receiving complaints about unsupervised children.

SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER 2001: Teen Reach President Bobby Torres refuses to cooperate with DES. Torres is ordered to cease operations after DES finds he is running unlicensed rehab group homes for teens.

APRIL 2002: In a preliminary injunction hearing in Maricopa County Superior Court, DES officials present affidavits from neighbors and one former Teen Reach resident, who confirmed the use of physical discipline.

SEPTEMBER 2002: The DES issues a regular license for Teen Reach to operate six child- welfare group homes.

APRIL 2003: Teen Reach is placed on probation for using handcuffs on youths and failing to report potential abuse. The DES investigation also confirms supervised spankings.

SEPTEMBER 2003: The DES restores Teen Reach's regular license after it agrees to stop handcuffing and spanking.

MARCH 5: Child Protective Services confirms a child was injured in a supervised spanking and removes the child from Teen Reach.

MARCH 12: The DES begins the process to revoke Teen Reach's license. The group is permitted to remain in operation.

MARCH 17: Teen Reach denies DES access to facilities to check on welfare of children.

MARCH 19: Emergency action taken by DES, which orders Teen Reach rehab group homes shut down.


Source: Arizona Department of Economic Security

 
"They abuse their authority, and the fact is that we're a church," Torres said, adding that he believes Department of Economic Security officials have lied about the investigation into a "supervised spanking" at one of his drug and alcohol rehabilitation facilities.

State Child Protective Services workers, meanwhile, classified the spanking as a "beating" and said a rubberized paddle was used while the child was held down by at least four adults.

"The child was beaten," said Liz Barker, a spokeswoman for DES and CPS, who added that the unidentified child's wrists were also bruised.

DES investigators are watching Teen Reach's properties to see if the Torres is operating them in defiance of his license revocation.

If Torres does not appeal by Thursday and is found to be illegally operating, the DES will request a hearing in Maricopa County Superior Court, according to David Matthews, director of the agency's licensing office.

Torres has admitted encouraging supervised spankings by parents, who pay as much as $35,000 to send their children to his cold-turkey therapy program as a last resort.

He also denied that the youth whom DES said was bruised was ever injured.

A former gang member who is now a minister, Torres operated without a state license from 1993 to 2001, until complaints from neighbors to Teen Reach group homes forced investigators to bring him before a judge.

He was granted a full license for six group homes, but that was downgraded to a provisional license after Torres admitted using handcuffs to restrain combative youths.

That license was revoked after the spanking allegations surfaced last month.

He did not appeal the revocation and would not say whether he will appeal the separate, emergency order to shut down by Thursday's deadline.

The DES took that action by sending 14 Child Protective Services caseworkers to a Teen Reach property at 5301 E. Thunderbird Road on March 19 while searching for a list of children.

The spanked child was taken from the same property.

Eight young adults were also removed from Teen Reach, each of which claims their civil rights were violated by CPS.

Jasmin Soto, 18, who studies in Teen Reach's evangelical-training programs for young adults, was one of the eight forced from a Bible study on March 19.

"They (CPS caseworkers) didn't mention the investigation," Soto said.

"They just said Teen Reach had its license revoked."

"They didn't ask us for any ID, nothing," she said.

"They just took us. They asked us for our names, but we didn't give them to them."

Other youths said their faith was mocked, that they sustained cuts and bruises, and were told by CPS caseworkers that they would be sent to "gang- and drug-infested" state shelters.



Reach the reporter at michael.ferraresi@arizonarepublic.com or (602) 444-6843.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2004, 10:16:00 PM »
What are "supervised spankings?"  One of the articles says the guy admitted to supervised spankings - My imagination sees the kid getting spanked with someone supervising it, but that may be too easy an explanation.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2004, 07:37:00 AM »
Could it be- a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others? Otherwise known as sadism?
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2004, 09:16:00 PM »
Did anybody notice that the parent said something like, "After spanking, we'd go out for ice cream or something"?  Does this mean that the ritualized beating occured with regularity, or at least often enough that they had a routine for "counter-punishment"?  

I think Deborah's assessment is right.  Sadism.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2004, 11:19:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-12 19:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What are "supervised spankings?"  


One of the articles says a CPS worker saw a kid held down by four adults so the parent could hit him.

You should check out some of the propaganda! They staged the arrest of a bunch of young adults-- graduate staff--by having them refuse to identify themselves when they came for the minors. They had a camera guy on spot and ready for action and they've set it to music that sounds like something out of The Excortcist.

This is just amazing! It's like outsider art only... sinister.

If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil
deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2004, 12:05:00 AM »
I don't know why people are so shocked at what really goes on in some of these faith-based schools and programs.

Roloff
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Abusing kids in the name of God isn't abuse.  It's called beating the devil outta 'em.

Kind of like the early Mormons who claimed it was okay to lie for the Lord, murder innocent people and practice polygamy.  Not a sin, as long as they were doing the Lord's work.

Or like the Pentacostal mom who stoned her kids to death because she claimed God told her to do it to prepare for the end of the world.  Not murder, but a mercy killing.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2004, 06:03:00 PM »
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"I don't know why people are so shocked at what really goes on in some of these faith-based schools and programs.


I think it's because the vast majority of people in this country who identify as Christians are the type of ppl who go to church and try to live decent lives, but who don't take it to fanatic lengths. When they hear of a faith-based outreach or program, they think of their weekly tithe to the local homeless shelter or the sweet old ladies who bring food and company to shut ins in the community. They never imagine the Jim Jones or Branch Davidian scenareos that sometimes masquerade as good Christian ministries.

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2004, 12:27:00 PM »
Been there, was a former employee.......not a cool place, brainwashing to the point of blind following of personal instruction.  True Christians cannot stay involved with this leadership, this is a CULT masquerading as a Christian Group. Bobby Torres's direction and word counts far more than God's Word.....but the followers are browbeat, coerced, etc. into being
in "spiritual submission", or else held to public group ridicule for being "rebellious", which the Bible states is as the sin of witchcraft!  Who wants to be known as a witch?.. nobody, so followers begin to doubt their own judgement, and eventually let Bobby Torres do all their thinking.....it's so much easier to get along with everyone then!  The current games going on are dispicable, and are teaching vulnerable young people that lying, decieving, and ignoring the law is ok when the enemy is the State or anyone but them.  Since when did the Ten commandments have "conditions" on them? They treat Bobby Torres's unending edicts like they are the original tablets from Mount Sinai, everything from how long one must pray each day, to what music you can and can't listen to, to what kind of food you can eat. Vegetarianism is not only encouraged, but mandated among staff, and grocery receipts are checked to see if you bought "approved" foods.  Only a short step here to buying large lots of KoolAid and Cyanide.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »
I was in that thing for a couple of months, too.......scary.  When they encouraged me to disconnect from my family, keep "information" from them (their little program secrets) I smelled a rat, and my family came and moved me home. Now, all the friends I thought I had there won't talk to me and have spread lies about my young daughter to discredit us, I guess, so we look like the whackjobs, not them. Too bad,....there are a lot of people out there that really believe this bunch, and Bob is even an Assemblies of God minister. Isn't that the same outfit that gave a license to Jimmy Swaggart while he was making whoopee with prostitutes?
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But Ashcroft's devotion to his faith - he is the highest-ranking elected politician in his denomination, the Assemblies of God - is well-known in Missouri.
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