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Offline Cayo Hueso

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« on: March 24, 2004, 07:45:00 PM »
Does anyone remember the yacht Geoff McKelvey's dad had named the Miss Chris?  It was a 54ft...4th and 5th phasers got to go out to Egmont Key on permissions on it.

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 09:35:00 PM »
I remember permissions swiftly becoming a figment of imagination.  It seemed for months and months days were called in, 4th phasers sat in group, no one went anywhere for anything other than work or school and work was iffy.  We were constantly being told about how the group was in a bad place...blah, blah.  I think some people actually went through their upper phases without a single day off.  Funny, seeing as how days off were supposed to be an integral part of the upper phases.

I think that our progress wasnt the problem....the problem was the size of the damn group.  We were pushing maximum density and then when Yorba Linda closed and sent all their kids to us...we simply blew the fuck up.

The oldcomer/newcomer ratios were ludicrous.  Some days were spent doing nothing but restraining dozens of kids who would decide to run all at once, which usually prompted a dozen more to toss in the towel and join as well.  No raps, no nothing...just screaming. I remember one day seeing so many kids, 2/3rd phasers even, just give up and stop working for a while talking out and everything...and they never even got busted for doing it cause so many kids were trying to run that there wasnt even time to pay attention.   There werent enough oldcomers to support the newcomer horde.  There wasnt enough staff or even raps during the day to facilitate even a whisper of individualized care.  But the execs were living off the fat of an engorged group.  It was obvious that there was a stall in people progressing on phases....they realized with so many kids...they could just start butt-fucking the clients shamelessly, and then blame it on the "group being in a bad place" to the parents and such.  

If i try to estimate conservatively, during open meeting when everyone was there....lets see....maybe 10-11 chairs to a row?  Maybe 10 rows per side guys/girls?  Thats only newcomers and 2/3/4th phasers mostly.... add on a fifth phaser at the end of each row....and maybe 10-12 kids out in the time out rooms holding down misbehavers...thats roughly 250 kids at any given time in group.   Probably 75% newcomers.  It was insane.

My life became an endless progression of newcomers, feeding, washing, clothing, MI's and precious few hours of sleep.  Forget about shining out in group....I was too busy wiping asses and helping restrain kids who ran.  

What was funny about it all was that there was a discernable demarkation between those already on their way to fifth phase or on it...and the rest of us.  Some fifth phasers seemed rather immune to the shift.  They werent really even around in group so much.  Even with days called in they seemed to find plenty of other things to keep them out of it.  I know my host sister went off to some guys host home at least 4 nights a week...for what I dont have a clue, and how it was allowed and why I couldnt fathom.  The one time I asked her to stick around and do her share of responsibilities, she threatened me and held me on a tightrope for weeks wondering whether or not I was going to get gutted in OMR.  To be honest, I just shut up and put up because I couldnt stand the thought of not being able to see my mom on the weekends that she came...I knew she would time it just right so that it would have a doubled effect you know?

Dallas shut down not too long after I left, maybe a couple months...maybe closer to a year.  I think part of my running was from smelling the death of that place.....I knew I wasnt going anywhere but down.  I often dreamt I was at the bottom of a huge pile of bodies...kids being restrained...so many they just piled up and piled up.  Years later it suprised me that someone didnt get killed.....but then again, so many were just waiting to die later, by their own hand.

I ran the day my host sister commenced.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 09:58:00 PM »
In 81 St Pete Straight's group was huge and totally out of control. It was before Atlanta, Virginia and Ohio groups left.There must have been 300 kids there easy. And our days were called in ALWAYS. I never had a single day off on fourth phase. Not most of fifth either. I went on exactly two permissions-TWO in a year and a half. That summer it was so fucking hot and they would never turn the damned air on. Even the walls used to sweat. One day like 10 or 12 newcomers decided to split at the same time. Same moment. They must have been communicating about it somehow. Guys and girls. They took different doors figuring they couldn't stop them all. Three girls to the double back doors under the steps, three or four guys to the double doors going inot the hall & out to the parking lot. People hitting the meeting room doors. It was awesome. Most got tackled but a few who hit the double doors got out. One guy had carved stripes into his cheeks like Indian warpaint. He must have had one hell of an adrenaline rush because he jumped right over the heads of the guys standing at the doors, rolled into the hall then out the parking lot and he was gone.It was an olympic worthy jump. I think  he went to Raefurt. I know at least one of the girls got away and never came back. But it was days in for ages.

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2004, 12:10:00 AM »
Which was the first group to break off and when did that happen?  I try and narrow down the time period I was there and every time I think I have it down, something comes along and makes me change my mind.  I was there when there were 350 kids in group before any of those three (Cincy, VA and ATL) broke away.  

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2004, 03:13:00 AM »
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On 2004-03-24 21:10:00, cayohueso wrote:

"Which was the first group to break off (Cincy, VA and ATL) broke away.


I could be totally wrong but I think it was ATL, Cincy, and then VA.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2004, 09:27:00 AM »
I know when our group shut down they shipped as many off to Atlanta and Orlando as they could.  From what I heard, they just graduated every fifth phaser there was...and tried to convince every other phasers parents to ship them east.  I dont know how many went....only two people that I knew personally afterwards went...one to ATL one to Orlando.  They were both misbehavers for going on a year....but they made it all the way through and graduated after they were sent off.  I suppose the execs knew they couldnt hold them back if their parents had agreed to spend the money to ship em out.

Seems like the programs shut down from west to east...and the shit just rolled downhill.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2004, 09:40:00 AM »
I truly regret the chaos that took place in that branch.  :sad:

How is a druggie supposed to get straight in an environment like that?
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2004, 01:52:00 PM »
and then Atlanta.  By then, I had broken all contact with that hell hole.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2004, 02:19:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure Sarasota was the first branch. That was around November of `80. I think I remember Haloween in St. Pete and I know I was in Sarasota for Thanksgiving. But prior to that, Helen Peterman and George Ross had already rooked some clients and opened the LIFE program in Osprey. Don't know exactly when, just that it had been around the time St. Pete moved to the Gandy Blvd bldg and just prior to my intake.

Here's an interesting question. I was reading an article from National Families In Action from 1982 ( http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... &forum=7&7 ) "Straight Inc. has opened five similar centers in Florida and two other states in the past year."

I only knew of St. Pete, Sarasota and Orlando. Where were the other two? Out of state, I knew about Atlanta and Cincinatti, but I thought Cincinatti had been opened in late `80. So that would have been more than a year before the article. Was there another somewhere at that time?  

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2004, 02:22:00 PM »
I know there was talk about opening a gulag in Jacksonville, and another in Ft. Lauderdale, but I don't think they ever opened them.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2004, 03:14:00 PM »
but I thought Cincinatti had been opened in late `80.




Cincinnati opened on January 6, 1982.

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 06:45:00 PM »
Sarasota was first in November of 80. I think Atlanta was next with Virginia close behind. Can't remember where Orlando fell in. Seems like they were all pretty close together. I want to say Atlanta and Virginia were within 30 days of one another. Late in 81 I think though it might have been early 82.

My father took us on a marvelous vacation after  7 stepped. I had a foster sister who left with the Ohio group so we went on a road trip. Stopped and visited the Atlanta program. Then went up to Ohio and stayed a few days with Kristen & her family and attended an Ohio meeting.

Hows that for family fun?

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 07:33:00 PM »
I'm trying to narrow down when I was there.  I know Sarasota was gone before I got there, but the rest broke off while I was there.  I think ATL was separated from St. Pete and then left shortly after I arrived.  I know I came in beginning of summer.  It was the first damn day of summer vacation[/b].  I thought at first it was summers of 81 - 83, but then other people will post something that makes me think it was summers of 82 - 84.   :silly:

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2004, 08:55:00 PM »
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I had a foster sister who left with the Ohio group so we went on a road trip.



Who was the foster sister from Ohio.  I was in the Ohio group.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2004, 11:05:00 PM »
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