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« Reply #105 on: March 30, 2004, 02:07:00 AM »
There are no unregistered users on this forum except the administrators of the forum.  As you can see, the person who added this little diggy was someone from the inside of Fornits, breaking their own rules.  As you can see there is no way to view their profile or to send them a personal private message.
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« Reply #106 on: March 30, 2004, 02:11:00 AM »
Deborah, please stop misleading people, even if it is unintentional!
Posted: 2004-01-03 05:42:00  
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 Well, in that case I can't wait to see the Defendant's Answer, Counterclaim and Third Party Complaint in this cause. When it's filed, I'll be looking for that High-Profile, $500 per hour attorney's name at the top of the pleadings, you say will represent Ginger gratis.

Another thing, I want to see the lawyer whose going to take this up pro-bono for Ginger after reading the filthy posts that have been attached to this board. Long ago this site crossed the line of "Free Speech" into violating other peoples legal rights.

But I have an open mind, maybe some power-house will represent Ginger for free.
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« Reply #107 on: March 30, 2004, 02:15:00 AM »
From the archives of Ginger's own Forum...


Deborah, please stop misleading people, even if it is unintentional!
Posted: 2004-01-04 06:02:00  
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 Wow, are you people freaks!

The information is no good if it does not apply to Ginger's situation. In the Complaint, which I think Deborah, and all you other nuts DO NOT HAVE, Ginger is being sued on the following combination of causes:

Injunction, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, Public Disclosure of Private Facts, Defamation (False Light) and Tortious Interference with Business Relationships.

Which part of the sites you people are reading like the Bible match this exact combination of Counts contained in the Complaint? Let me help you out, NONE! Also, Ginger, tossed in her two cents and took sides (usually siding with a nut), which those sites do not cover.

I'm not saying don't look at the sites (they may have some general information that some might find helpful), what I'm saying is the laws you think shield Ginger don't!

Learn to READ people, and stop living in FANTASYLAND.
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« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2004, 02:18:00 AM »
More on Ginger.. the same Ginger who moderates and controls Fornits

 http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#31415
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« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2004, 08:58:00 AM »
Craig did you ever answer the question?  Do you accept kids that are transported via "escorts" to your program?
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« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2004, 11:43:00 AM »
Before I answer any question I want to know who is asking the question.  I dont have a problem answering this question of yours.  It is an easy question, clean and simple.  But come out from behind your cloak.
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« Reply #111 on: March 30, 2004, 11:49:00 AM »
Hell...

Sorry, bud. What the fuck can I do fer ye?  :em:
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« Reply #112 on: March 30, 2004, 01:26:00 PM »
Why does it matter who is asking?
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« Reply #113 on: March 30, 2004, 01:33:00 PM »
Craig,
You're dumber than dirt. I have a login and you didn't answer my questions.

This is not the Craig Rogers' Private Rebuttal site. It is a public forum where posters are free to ask questions and make comments on others' posts.

You slander yourself by posting allegations- possibly slanderous- about your drug-addicted ex-employee and refuse to answer questions. I think that is what's got you in an uproar. Besides, I thought you decided we were all "weird" and was going away????

As to your threat of legal action....
If you find something offensive or wrong, you should go to the poster. I certainly would consider doing some editing if you ask nicely.

In case you missed the Terms of Use policy??
http://fornits.com/wwf/faq.php#terms
This forum is offered as a resource to facilitate the shareing of information and viewpoints related to the topics designated by individual forum moderators and to coordinate and network efforts relating to them.

All of the responsibility for content, legal, moral or otherwise, rests with the respective authors of the words posted herein. Use of this forum (either by posting messages or just by reading them) implies your acceptance of this policy.

This is an open and unmoderated forum intended to help give you a louder voice to share your story and to make contact with others to share important news and information. It is your wisdom and your vision that will make this dialog meaningful.

This means that, unlike the policies of organizations like Straight, WWASP, Elan, etc., everyone and anyone, even people currently involved in what might be an abusive cult, is welcome to participate in this forum. I (the tech responsible for maintaining this site) am willing to wager that the tactics used by coercive cults will fall flat outside of a controled environment. I do, however, delet older messages for the sake of conserving disk space. If you want to save them, do so on your own hard drive or offer to pay my costs and I may agree to set up an archive for you.

Though I can't (and wouldn't want to) control every word posted here, I and the moderators of individual forums reserve the right to delete posts and/or ban users at our sole discretion with wanton disregard for anyone else's opinion of the propriety of such decisions. As a user of this free forum, you are a guest just as long as you make yourself welcome. We do ask that you follow these few basic guidelines.

Bearing in mind that one man's poetry is another man's obscenity, and that censorship is probably the worst form of obscenity, I leave this to your best judgment. There is really no one 'in charge' of this discussion, and I will not intervene on anyone's behalf nor take responsibility for any reprecussions, legal or otherwise, that arise from anyone's words but my own.

Please do not use the board to post commercial messages.  It's okay to include your organization/Web page in your signature (in fact, we hope you will because it lends context to your words!) It's okay to announce a site, newsletter, event etc. that may be of legitimate interest to the folks who frequent this forum. But please don't just drop in with a message that boils down to "Hey everyone, buy my stuff!!!" and not engage in the discussion. That's just plain rude!
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Stand up and represent yourself and stop running to daddy (god, attorney) to bail you out.
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« Reply #114 on: March 30, 2004, 02:10:00 PM »
Dear Deb,

That is all fine and dandy... but lets let the attorney's and the courts decide what is legal and what is not.  Just because the Terms and Policies of Fornits are open and unregulated does not make it legal or right.

Thanks for the lecture professor!  You sound just like a Program Director.  However, instead of a school for troubled teens, you are trying to run a program for troubled teen helpers.  The problem is that you are using the same style and techniques that the troubled teen programs use.  I thought you were against that. The hypocracy comes out!  It always does.

Just like the extreme liberals.  They hate conservatives because of the conservatives lack of tolerance.  Liberals preach freedom and liberty, except for those who disagree with their point of view.  For those who disagree there is absolutely no tolerance allowed.

Please grant me the freedom to go to God, or the authorities... please... pretty please?  Or, do you fail to live by what you preach?  I thought as an American I could go to the authorities if I wished.  Also, as an American, I thought that I was allowed the freedom to seek my God.
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« Reply #115 on: March 30, 2004, 02:12:00 PM »
It matters... just trust me.  If you cant give me your name and the reason you ask, then I cant give you the answer.  Dont like the terms?  Then quit asking the question.  Pretty simple.
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« Reply #116 on: March 30, 2004, 02:23:00 PM »
Defamation cases are pretty hard to prove.

Not having read *all* of fornits I can't absolutely state that nothing on it is actionable.

However, my personal suspicion is that any legal action against Ginger based on this site is a slap suit rather than a case with real merit.

Besides, didn't Ginger say the suit against her had been brought to some final resolution of some sort?  I don't think there's still litigation pending, is there?

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think I've seen anything actionable on here.

Anybody can threaten legal action over anything.  Anybody can sue over anything.  Actually having a suit with some merit is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Craig, unless and until I actually see news reports from a respected media outlet commenting on a suit, or actual filings posted somewhere, I'm  going to assume that you are probably just full of hot air.

Just because you don't like someone's speech doesn't mean it's actionable.

If I have a bad business experience with Widgets International and I go out and post that experience on the web, then as long as I'm relating my experience, even if Widgets International loses loads of business from it, they have no case.

I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding.

And if my understanding *wasn't* correct, shady businesses would have sued the Better Business Bureau and other consumer watchdog groups out of existence a *long* time ago----and I'm sure shady businesses who have lost business to their competitors as a result of consumer watchdog groups *would* have used the law to muzzle those groups long ago if the law allowed them to.

Until you prove otherwise, Craig, as far as I can tell you're all hot air.
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« Reply #117 on: March 30, 2004, 02:32:00 PM »
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It matters... just trust me. If you cant give me your name and the reason you ask, then I cant give you the answer. Dont like the terms? Then quit asking the question. Pretty simple.

Mistuh Rogahs, I like yew, boy. This'll make that anon jackass put up or SHUT UP fer sure! DAMN! If'n there's one thing that burns a hole in my butt, it's sum fukkin' anon who thinks that he's entitled to an answer but they don't want to pick a name. Why the hell are there so many wussies out there that can't pick a god-damn name?? What the fuck ye' 'fraid uv? Sheeeeitt!!!!! WHIP 'EM!!! WHIP THEIR FUCKIN' ASSES!!!!!!
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« Reply #118 on: March 30, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »
Anon, who the fuck ARE you? What'r yew 'fraid of??
GODDAMN BUCH OF JAWBONIN' PUSSIES!!!!!!!!

FUCK YEW!!!!!! :flame:
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« Reply #119 on: March 30, 2004, 02:35:00 PM »
Rogers, why does it matter who is asking? Does it make a difference in the answer?

You do not sound at all like a Christian in your postings.  I wonder what Jesus thinks about how you respond to people.  Didn't Jesus say to turn the other cheek?  

"But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. "

You don't sound anything like what you preach.
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