A Mom Wants To Bring Her Kid Home and Look Who's Giving Advi

[Anonymous]

http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=000736

[Anonymous]

Lot of folks giving advise - Whom exactly did you mean to point out?

IMO - Jeff's, as short and sweet as it is, is the best.
I recall my kid writting begging me to find something else; anything else.
It got my attention.
I think thats a worthwhile test he suggests.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-27 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Lot of folks giving advise - Whom exactly did you mean to point out?



IMO - Jeff's, as short and sweet as it is, is the best.

I recall my kid writting begging me to find something else; anything else.

It got my attention.

I think thats a worthwhile test he suggests.

"

Oh please, you must be joking ... I know, send the kid to Abundant Life Academy.  

 :smokin:

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-27 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Lot of folks giving advise - Whom exactly did you mean to point out?



IMO - Jeff's, as short and sweet as it is, is the best.

I recall my kid writting begging me to find something else; anything else.

It got my attention.

I think thats a worthwhile test he suggests.

"

Hi Jeff  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Be interesting to see if this mom brings her daughter home, or (wink, wink, nod, nod) places her in a different program.  You know, one that is a "better fit" (meaning no druggies, juvenile offenders or psycho kids).  Notice how many parents used the M word (manipulation)?  As for Berryman's advice, too bad he didn't recommend the parent visit Fornits.  

 :evil:

[Kiwi]

As for Berryman's advice, too bad he didn't recommend the parent visit Fornits.

Hardly likely when his pal Sue is suing Ginger.

[Anonymous]

//Oh please, you must be joking ... I know, send the kid to Abundant Life Academy. //

Well, ALA Might or Might not,  be more suitable than the present situation the kid is in - I wouldn?t know. Now, care to explain why you think I?m joking?  I?m not. Its good advice.  

//Hi Jeff //

No, it was me; not Jeff.

//As for Berryman's advice, too bad he didn't recommend the parent visit Fornits. //

Jena might boot him if he did.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-28 07:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

"//Oh please, you must be joking ... I know, send the kid to Abundant Life Academy. //



Well, ALA Might or Might not,  be more suitable than the present situation the kid is in - I wouldn?t know. Now, care to explain why you think I?m joking?  I?m not. Its good advice.  



//Hi Jeff //



No, it was me; not Jeff.



//As for Berryman's advice, too bad he didn't recommend the parent visit Fornits. //



Jena might boot him if he did.

"

Thanks Karen

[Anonymous]

Kudos to the mom for "listening" to her teen and at LEAST considering the fact that it might very well be in the *best interests* of her child to bring her home.

Well-intentioned as they might be, these people dispensing cyber-advice should save their breath.  They do not know the child, the parents, or what role family dynamics may have played in the child's attitude and behavior.  All they know is their own experience and how a program worked (or didn't work) for their child.

At the moment, I am concerned the mother may be getting a flood of private emails encouraging her to place her child in some other parent's  "program of choice" or worse, steer her toward choosing a program that pays for referrals.

Hopefully somebody will take the time to send this lady an email inviting her to visit Fornits so she can peruse the wealth of information available on this website and as such, have a better chance of making an informed decision.

[Anonymous]

Save your breath.  If Jeff Berryman gave her advice, he's probably already steered her toward PURE.  His advice means nothing.  He isn't a parent.  Give a child the option of going to another program?  How lame is that?  Means the kid will be in charge again.  I agree that mom needs to listen to her gut feeling and if she feels she needs to go to the program to see for herself if her kid isn't doing the work, or the program is asking too much of the kid and a new choice needs to be made.  She is the parent of this kid, not us. Moving the kid to another program would be expensive if the kid just isn't doing the work and thinks that a move would make changing easier.  Change is not easy.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-28 14:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Kudos to the mom for "listening" to her teen and at LEAST considering the fact that it might very well be in the *best interests* of her child to bring her home.



Well-intentioned as they might be, these people dispensing cyber-advice should save their breath.  They do not know the child, the parents, or what role family dynamics may have played in the child's attitude and behavior.  All they know is their own experience and how a program worked (or didn't work) for their child.



At the moment, I am concerned the mother may be getting a flood of private emails encouraging her to place her child in some other parent's  "program of choice" or worse, steer her toward choosing a program that pays for referrals.



Hopefully somebody will take the time to send this lady an email inviting her to visit Fornits so she can peruse the wealth of information available on this website and as such, have a better chance of making an informed decision.







"

Check out this post from the mother decribing her daughter and what led to her decision to place her in a locked boarding school. Sure hope the mom gets her life together soon, she sounds like she has a good heart.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=000740

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-28 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Save your breath.  If Jeff Berryman gave her advice, he's probably already steered her toward PURE.  His advice means nothing.  He isn't a parent.  Give a child the option of going to another program?  How lame is that?  Means the kid will be in charge again.  I agree that mom needs to listen to her gut feeling and if she feels she needs to go to the program to see for herself if her kid isn't doing the work, or the program is asking too much of the kid and a new choice needs to be made.  She is the parent of this kid, not us. Moving the kid to another program would be expensive if the kid just isn't doing the work and thinks that a move would make changing easier.  Change is not easy.    "

No, change is not easy but it isn't the girl who needs to change, it is her parents. See link below.

[Anonymous]

Jeff said:

Jeff Berryman
Member
Member # 35

  posted February 27, 2004 04:22 PM                        
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I hear this one a lot, and I always advise the same litmus test: Offer to transfer her to another program. If she jumps at it eagerly, then maybe there's something going that's more than manipulation.

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When I mount my horse, ALL THE WINDMILLS IN SPAIN TREMBLE!
 

So Jeff, I guess you can email her in private and refer her to the PURE site.  What a great "litmus test."  NOT!

[Anonymous]

Yeah, Jeff, think it might be time to update your "litmus" test?  I mean, what are you even doing hanging out at Struggling Teens, much less posting such lame advice?  Get off that high horse of yours, pal, and start advocating for the rights of kids to be free from exploitation from people who profit from locking 'em up.  Sheesh, have you lost your way, too?

 :flame: