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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »
Board (as in bored)
Coarse (as in course)

Yeah, might as well quit posting anon, since it is abundantly obvious who you are.  Welcome back, BTW!

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2004, 03:36:00 PM »
Its true some kids at Dundee had candy. My kid begged me to send some, b/c other kids had it and didn't share and he was so hungry.
I didn't send candy; but he didn't get what I sent; not for his birthday. He did on one occassion get some popcorn and some crackers I sent; but his F.R. ate the pop corn (he said he was sorry) and his buddies cleaned up his crackers.
I think the thing with the B-day box was it was to much. It couldn't be wiped out in a sitting, so he just never got it. I don't actually Know; but for Some reason, he never got it.
I had even packed some of those foil packaged juce drinks; for the party, so the kids wouldn't be thirsty. He told me later that even when and if the package arrived, he wouldn't be allowed to have the juice. He wasn't on level 3 were they could have juice. Blew me away.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2004, 03:38:00 PM »
Board (as in bored)
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Yeah, might as well quit posting anon, since it is abundantly obvious who you are. Welcome back, BTW!

Well, I know!!
But I am more comfortable under the bag for now.
And BTW - Thank You.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2004, 03:44:00 PM »
Juice (not even fresh-squeezed, but in a box) as a reward for jumping through hoops 24.7?  Man, if this is all it takes to get kids to straighten out, you parents are wasting a whole heck of a lot of money.  I mean, a case of these juice-in-a-boxes costs what ... $25.00?  Buy a couple months supply and keep your kids at home where you can control their behavior without taking a second mortgage out on the family home. Sounds like a juicy idea to me.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2004, 04:21:00 PM »
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"Board (as in bored)

Coarse (as in course)



Yeah, might as well quit posting anon, since it is abundantly obvious who you are. Welcome back, BTW!



Well, I know!!

But I am more comfortable under the bag for now.

And BTW - Thank You.

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Well, okay if you feel the need .... bessides as a fellow baggie, who am I to complain?!  Would like to say though that I read your post about feeling remorseful for any role you might have played in the despictable (and very un-christian-like) personal attacks on Ms. Bock and felt you were truly speaking from the heart.  Who knows, maybe someday the rest of the "angry ones" will wake up and realize the best way to stop the teen hurt industry is through rational discussion and debate, and last but not least, a whole lotta faith that God is on our team.

Peace be with you!
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2004, 04:24:00 PM »
Uh, self-typo-correction here.  That is besides (not bessides)

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2004, 04:34:00 PM »
There have been attacks on Carey that did go below the belt and I'm not one to defend Carey, believe me.  However, there seem to be quite a few of those comming from her.  I and several others who are remaining anon for fear of attacks by her, are having more of a problem with HOW she says things rather than WHAT she says.  She can't even concede that there MIGHT be a SLIGHT possiblity that she came across as a bitch.  She's not perfect, none of us are, but she seems to really think that she's just the only one standing up to the BIG BADDIES, and 'Hey, if you don't like the way I do it then you MUST be for the other side'.  I think she could probably have a lot more people 'on her side' if she didn't come across the way she does.  Even if she doesn't feel she comes across that way, others obviously do, so it would behoove her to come down off her high horse every few days or so to address the peasants that are working so hard WITHOUT blowing their own horns.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2004, 04:50:00 PM »
Below the belt?  That is putting it a bit mildly, don't you think?  No, it was much worse than that and quite frankly, I think you know just how degenerate this whole affair has become. Oh well, that old adage "be careful what you wish for" appears to be coming true.  For not only has Ginger's attorney made it known he is planning a vigorous defense, Carey seems to have lined her ducks up, as well.  Guess now all anybody can do is wonder WAS IT WORTH IT and just how many kids were saved during this long and very bitter "search for truth".  Me, I already know the answer and as such, can only wish people had not lost sight of the forest for the trees.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2004, 05:04:00 PM »
I'm QUITE aware of how poorly this has been handled.  So, I'll say FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME.....I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM SO MUCH WITH WHAT CAREY WAS SAYING (as I didn't know enough to be able to form one) BUT WHAT i SAW ON THESE BOARDS FROM CAREY ADN A FEW ANONS AMOUNTED TO NOTHING MORE THAN SARCASTIC REMARKS TAHT BLEW OFF LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS.  To  MEEEE....it seemed she was WAY TOO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE adn that's what led ME to hvae a beef with her.  She says she doesn't come across that way, so.....
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2004, 05:09:00 PM »
What's with the Carey bashing?  This thread was about sending children candy, sweets, presents.  Carey's boys received what was sent.  I guess that warrants the bashing once again??
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2004, 05:41:00 PM »
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"Juice (not even fresh-squeezed, but in a box) as a reward for jumping through hoops 24.7?  Man, if this is all it takes to get kids to straighten out, you parents are wasting a whole heck of a lot of money.  I mean, a case of these juice-in-a-boxes costs what ... $25.00?  Buy a couple months supply and keep your kids at home where you can control their behavior without taking a second mortgage out on the family home. Sounds like a juicy idea to me.



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Hmmm, candy seems to do the trick, too. But then again, so would toilet paper, something from what I gather, could be considered a valuable commodity in the daily life of most of these teens. Either way, the rewards system can be duplicated at home, just don't think most teens consider these things important enough to modify their attitude and behavior to suit their parent's expectations and demands, until it's too late and they are off to a program in retaliation for their no-gratitude-attitude.  

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2004, 06:04:00 PM »
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However, there seem to be quite a few of those comming from her. I and several others who are remaining anon for fear of attacks by her, are having more of a problem with HOW she says things rather than WHAT she says.

The fear is in the truth.

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I and several others


Are we talking about Trekkers/PURE here?  Is that why the fear? I mean if she is calling a spade a spade...well then, I guess the truth is to be feared.
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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2004, 07:10:00 PM »
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Hmmm, candy seems to do the trick, too. But then again, so would toilet paper, something from what I gather, could be considered a valuable commodity in the daily life of most of these teens. Either way, the rewards system can be duplicated at home, just don't think most teens consider these things important enough to modify their attitude and behavior to suit their parent's expectations and demands, until it's too late and they are off to a program in retaliation for their no-gratitude-attitude.  



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All of the concepts can be applied at home.  Just figure the teen who comes and goes as they please and havent followed any of the rules before, will look at you like you're an alien or worse if you tell them they will be "earning juice" from now on.  At home, they expected to have a warm bed to sleep in, but chose to not use it very often.  They expected to open the fridge and find food, but usually went for the sweets after a long night of smoking weed.  They expected to have the latest clothes because they were your kid, but never thanked you.  

You don't do your kids any favors by giving, giving, giving.  Take them shopping at Wal-Mart and payless shoes.  Don't keep candy, pop or junk food in the house.  Provide healthy meals.  Give them a bed to sleep in and a roof over their head and make them earn everything else.  Teach them to say thank you and mean it.  

Invest in their education, not in their image.
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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2004, 07:26:00 PM »
Huh, Anon (Karen?), I think you missed the point.  Few teens don't believe it is their parent's job to provide their children with the basics, and then some, while they sit on their ass all day being a "kid".  That is HIGHLY NORMAL behavior. What isn't normal a'tall is forcing kids to be grateful and/or take responsibility for meeting their own needs and wants by institutionalizing them, stripping them of their basic human rights and then making 'em jump through hoops to earn the privilege of seeing or talking to their own parents, nevermind getting a box of juice to enforce their good behavior. Whatever happened to LEADING BY EXAMPLE, which where I come from, is called PARENTING????
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2004, 08:17:00 PM »
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"Huh, Anon (Karen?), I think you missed the point.  Few teens don't believe it is their parent's job to provide their children with the basics, and then some, while they sit on their ass all day being a "kid".  That is HIGHLY NORMAL behavior. What isn't normal a'tall is forcing kids to be grateful and/or take responsibility for meeting their own needs and wants by institutionalizing them, stripping them of their basic human rights and then making 'em jump through hoops to earn the privilege of seeing or talking to their own parents, nevermind getting a box of juice to enforce their good behavior. Whatever happened to LEADING BY EXAMPLE, which where I come from, is called PARENTING????

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Please bear in mind I am talking about kids as young as 13 years old being forced by their parents into a locked specialty school or program as the answer to changing or controlling unwanted behavior in the home, school or community. Pre-teens who can't legally drive or in a lot of states, get a job.
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