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Offline Froderik

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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2004, 11:44:00 PM »
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Alex, you know that the bible was written prior to there being peasents

I don't know about that..haven't there ALWAYS been peasants?  :smokin:
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2004, 12:46:00 AM »
I think what we are all really asking here is..
would you sleep with a nun?? ::kiss::

Im gonna leave you with my philosophy..Everyone hates everyone, may you get high and eat pussy till your jaw falls off, trust noone..and never borrow money.

Do these things and you shall be free.. :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:
             **SLAUGHTERED*

One's own Kingman, Christ person, Woman God.
At battle with a mass astrengent. The bond
That blends the weak to the wise.

It's a safe assumption that you'd want
to save me now. But I'll never face castration.
For your sacred sow is left slaughtered.


Brainwashed by me. Myself influence I. Bird brained
World saver. A fake god rests dead inside you.
It's a safe assumption that you'd want to save me now.
But I'll never face castration. For your sacred sow is left
Slaughtered.


System destroyed. Exposed and unployed. The fruit
Of intention cry for their dead, but turning their head to
Ignore reality's claw. Knife to your wrist, syringe in your
Arm is your ounce of prevention. Give what you made,
And under your name on your grave, is salvation. A big
Fucking joke.


Slaughter the pig, the self rightous king for your own
Restoration. For your God is in your chest, and faith kills
What is precious, for death is unanswered.
Do sin.
 

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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »
I personally do not believe that God punishes me...I feel that I punish me and my own decisions and actions have results and consequences. Regardless of what you believe in we were all put here on this earth with free will and the power to make decisions. What we do with the rest is up to us. I am anxious to go see The Passion tomorrow. I have had my tickets for 3 weeks and have read and researched as much as I could about it. Mel went out on his own with this movie because Hollywood had to many limits with it. I think that this may be the last of Mels work (by his choice). He stated that this is not a christian movie. This movie is for everyone.

Even for non believers, this story is known virtually by all and should be known as an incredible piece of art by Mel. Mel said that he wanted his hands to be the ones hammering the nails into Jesus hands simpley because he feels most responsible for his own sins and killing Jesus on the cross.

I am a believer in christ but, if I wasn't I would want to see this film for the simple fact that one person (Mel) has sooo much passion about it that it would intrigue me to no end.

Scott
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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
ok there were always peasents.....but you know what I meant!

I am not going to see the passion...but then again I hate watching movies in the theatre. Last one I saw in the movie complex was Broke Down Palace.

How does that date me !!! hehehehehe  :wink:

Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."
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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2004, 01:44:00 PM »
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"I personally do not believe that God punishes me...I feel that I punish me and my own decisions and actions have results and consequences. Regardless of what you believe in we were all put here on this earth with free will and the power to make decisions. What we do with the rest is up to us. I am anxious to go see The Passion tomorrow. I have had my tickets for 3 weeks and have read and researched as much as I could about it. Mel went out on his own with this movie because Hollywood had to many limits with it. I think that this may be the last of Mels work (by his choice). He stated that this is not a christian movie. This movie is for everyone.



Even for non believers, this story is known virtually by all and should be known as an incredible piece of art by Mel. Mel said that he wanted his hands to be the ones hammering the nails into Jesus hands simpley because he feels most responsible for his own sins and killing Jesus on the cross.



I am a believer in christ but, if I wasn't I would want to see this film for the simple fact that one person (Mel) has sooo much passion about it that it would intrigue me to no end.



Scott"


I agree, Gibson has put his heart and soul into this movie.  Good for him, God knows people don't have to go see the movie if they aren't interested in his depiction of the last days in the life of Jesus Christ.  Me, I want to go, both as a believer and someone who wants to see for myself the culmination of Gibson's hard work and vision.  Besides, I need a break from the propaganda campaign speeches which are driving me nuts knowing there ain't no saints in politics.
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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2004, 02:00:00 PM »
that's fucked up
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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2004, 02:59:00 PM »
That's Froderick, fucked up and proud of it!
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2004, 04:50:00 PM »
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I love History myself...so far have gobbled up all the history classes in my school Western Civ I and II American History American Government and Now Modern China I looovvvveee History ....so well you know


Too bad I couldn't have had you for a history teacher.  :wave: Hows the post jail sentence job hunt going? :wink:

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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2004, 03:56:00 AM »
/bump for gods and shitty teachers alike
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2004, 07:45:00 AM »
You know, religion is not a good thing (in my opinion), but Jesus wasn't a bad guy. I don't believe he was "the son of god", but he was pretty revolutionary and a big supporter of the redistribution of wealth and a champion for the rights of the oppressed. I think the main reason he was killed was that the royalty didn't much care for his "poor good, rich bad" etc, and it was catching on. A lot of people with good ideas that catch on are killed. Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X.  Overall, I don't think Jesus would much care for the religion that's being practiced in his name.
 So anyway that's why the maggot ditty was offensive to me even though I question not your right to post it.

  Was it Noam Chomsky who said that if god did in fact exist, he's oppressive and should be overthrown? That's prolly right on.
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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2004, 08:36:00 AM »
I agree mamma

If god exists and there is a hell etc etc... I would not worship a god that created us as inherently evil creatures (Mabey not evil but flawed) only to punish us for eternity..
 I think most churches today are just social functions..and I generally do not like the people I have met when dragged into them..

And people always say the same shit "Ohh no our church isnt like that...this is diffrent"
But its always the same ...
The last time my Exs family dragged me into church I got up and walked out feeling ill halfway thru

They sang stupid songs then the "Pastor" talked in circles making no fucking relevant point at all...then when her parents asked me what I thought of it and their preacher i told them
 "That man had no point at all..and wasted everyones time"...Id rathe sit home and study books than hear what some fuckstain thinks is gods word...I can interpret what I read thanks very much :roll:  :roll:
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2004, 10:21:00 AM »
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On 2004-02-24 14:14:00, Mamma Bird wrote:

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 That being said, churches can do good things and coming together to try and tap into what is beautiful and good in the world is certainly not inherently bad. To each their own, live and let live.



 Morli, your nephew and your family will be in my thoughts. I know how scary this is and am glad you are all pulling together, you need each other at times like this. Please keep us updated.



 Erin"


Thanks Erin and Anonymous,
You know, I'm right there with a lot of you. I used to vow to never step foot into a church, or group for that matter. I couldn't even go to a Mary Kay meeting last summer for my husband?s sister! But I'll tell ya, I have changed. I realized that I think too much about what I don't like, and what's gone wrong in my life. I spend too much time feeling sad for things I have no control over, and angry at things that I can't go back and change. Having unity in a family is something I've never had. I lay in bed just this morning, crying about being 13, and having to spend 18 months of my life in the first prison camp, being so young, having lost all my education because of being in straight also. After discussing my daughter's behavior last night with my husband this morning, and thinking about how different our lives are. Doesn't take much to trigger my sadness. Then I stopped, and I thought about what I have now, realized it's never over, and that the future is now.

I'm even speaking to my mother again, and yes, she is a bible banging freak, but she's my mom. She regrets mistakes in the past just as much as I do. I accept her, I love her. I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but it was something I needed to get past, in order to heal from. As for God, well, he's always been a big question mark. I pray, and wonder if I even believe I'm praying to anything at all. But recently I've been thinking about how nice it is to think that through all these years of pain, the praying may have carried me over to where I am now. The other side. I am fortunate, and should be happy, but I've kept myself from being happy with my own stubborn resistance, or have I just been lazy? Either way. change is possible, it's always possible.

My goal in life now, is to think more about others, to be "a part" of my husband's family. To feel closer to them, and in return, closer to my own heart. I have made so many poor choices in friendships, and relationships in my life, and have been disappointed, and/or burned because of it. I want to be precise in my thinking, and I want to make the right choices for my health, well being, and the well being of my family. I want to be a good mommy, and a good wife. I'm not saying by tomorrow I'll be a born again Christian or anything, and I'm not saying choosing to do anything is because of Christianity, but I will definitely have a more open mind, and an open heart. I mean, I have only been there once so far.  :wink:  

My nephew's surgery was rescheduled due to insurance coverage complications. March 18th.

Morli

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those that torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0802808689/circleofmianithem' target='_new'> C.S. Lewis, God In The Dock

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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2004, 01:49:00 PM »
Morli...I think you deserve to be happy, and I really hope you find what youre looking for
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2004, 02:04:00 PM »
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Morli...I think you deserve to be happy, and I really hope you find what youre looking for
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Thank you Brad,

I feel the exact same way about you.  ::kiss:: (Platonic kiss, Kady!)

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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2004, 03:49:00 PM »
hhehehe :wave:
In time...whats deserved always gets served

But you know I was raised in church...and actually kept that faith for years...until one day I realized that there is no "god" and if there is he fucking hates me..and hates the world

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She wore scarlet begonias tucked into her curls
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