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« Reply #555 on: March 05, 2005, 01:58:00 PM »
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 05-5361616

Not for Everyone, December 1, 1999
Reviewer: A reader
Being a Mormon for 27 years; I can tell you it is not easy for a Mormon to find out the fallacies of their religion. The Mormon people need to realize it is not the writings of people like Ed Drecker, but their so called prophets that continally contradict the bible and their own teachings.
I do not agree with many of these reviews that claim the book is full of lies--quite the contrary. However, I would not recommend anyone suggest this book to a "True Believing Mormon." True believers tend to be very narrow minded (take it from me I was one; and so are many in my hometown of Rexburg, Idaho, which is an extremely large population of Mormons). This is why I recommend a more loving approach to these true believers. "Mormonism, Mama, and Me" is a book that exposes the corruption in the foundation of the church in a much more loving approach for the "true believer." I was only able to read The God Makers after I had completely left the church--which was a long process and not something that happened over night.

This book is abbrasive; but after many years of research, I belive the truth can withstand scrutiny (it took me many years to come to this realization). Read this book for yourself if you so desire; I did enjoy it. But as I stated earlier do not use this book to witness to true believing Mormons; it is too abbrasive for people who have devoted their lives to not just a religion, but a lifestyle. I pray everyday for Mormons to open their minds and hearts so they may too see the lies in the foundation of the organization they belong to.

God Bless.
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As part of a scathing depiction of a deceitful, materialistic Mormon Church, lawyers Naifeh and Smith (co-editors of the biennial directory The Best Lawyers in America , etc.) point out that the 1985 Salt Lake City scandals and bombings that convulsed the community had a precedent in certain dubious practices of the church's prophet and founder Joseph Smith. The suspenseful plot, involving a series of murders and a large cast of Mormons and police investigators, centers on the purchase and suppression by church officials of authentic and forged documents that cast doubts on basic tenets of their faith and attested to the cover-up of Smith's unsavory past. Under the threat of blackmail, the church bought many of these documents from the dealer-bomber Mark Hofmann; according to the authors, Hoffmann, after confessing the murders and forgeries, was allowed, thanks to the church's political influence, to plea bargain the murder indictment into a manslaughter charge thereby sparing the church an embarrassing trial that could have revealed its complicity.
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Dr. Walter Martin held four earned degrees, having received his doctorate from California Coast University in the field of Comparative Religions. Author of a dozen books and a half-dozen booklets and many articles, Dr. Martin died in 1989.

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« Reply #556 on: March 05, 2005, 03:01:00 PM »
The above site above is a Christian ministry.
A variety of opinions on Mormons and Mormonism is here.
http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/ ... b_recovery
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« Reply #557 on: March 05, 2005, 10:54:00 PM »
Beloved Whitmore Academy

How I love you so

How we were all on the go

Doin' drugs and smiling, ho!

I wasn't doing good, but I found you

I smiled and you grabbed me with your firm grip

My breast itched with love for the dice

I didn't desire Vanilla Ice

Cheese, Beef, and Sandwhich meat

The Jewish Jesus smiled and hopped

Hopped and played with me and Barbie

Drove her in her limo, gave her a beer

Gave her everything she wanted, everything and more

I love you Whitmore,

I found Jesus and split-pea soup.
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« Reply #558 on: March 05, 2005, 10:57:00 PM »
The abuse, rough and raw

The religion, strict and pointless

The beef stew, odd and cold

The sexual misconduct, pleasing and changing

The outcome of the staying, a smile on my cripped face

-WHITMORE'S SHINING STAR
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« Reply #559 on: March 06, 2005, 10:14:00 AM »
It does not seem fair to blame the religion of thousands of people for the criminal and immoral behavior of two people who seem to choose to make their living by conning desperate parents, and then by abusing their children once they get access to these parents' children.

This just does not seem fair.

People can say any religion is cult-like when people hide behind a religion to gain access to children for thier own criminal, and sexually deviant behaviors.  This happens in many religions.  Look at the Catholic Church today and all its problems, and no one calls it a "CULT."  The Baptist religion has been attacked on this site, and no one calls it a "cult."

The Sudweeks seem to HIDE behind religion, and this is just one more area where they seem to be able to "not be questioned," because ONE DOESN'T  QUESTIONS A PERSON'S RELIGION, NOW DO THEY?

The Sudweeks seem to make a mockery of religion, but that does not seem to make it fair game for criticism of every other person who goes to the same church that they hypocrite claim as their church.
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« Reply #560 on: March 06, 2005, 10:23:00 AM »
The Parent's of WHITMORE'S SHINING STAR should feel happy that their approximately $50,000 for a year at Whitmore Academy's finest was so well-spent!

The student makes reference to the cruel abuse that takes place at the Whitmore, the horrible food, and illicit sexual activities that go on at the Whitmore,...and if taken literally, the "cripped face" may be making reference to the POETS gang affilations to the gang organization, The CRIPS.  

Hope this kid is safe back home, and that he didn't just pick up where he left off.
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« Reply #561 on: March 06, 2005, 12:14:00 PM »
Has anyone informed Sue Scheff at P.U.R.E. that she might need to inform any new referrals to Whitmore that the parents might need to send along a tent, sleeping bags, and portable toliets since approximately 42 people are packed in the "Mansion" now days.  Seems the Sudweeks have been made to quit housing the kids down at the BOYS HOUSE and the "sleeping quarters" at the SCHOOL HOUSE.  That's just allowed without a permit, and someone finally let the Sudweeks know that....Sure they already knew that...just didn't seem to care.
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« Reply #562 on: March 06, 2005, 05:13:00 PM »
You're right, it isn't fair, especially since Karen Burnett (Buzzkill) is as guilty of psuedo-christianity as those she accuses in her post.

Bottom line is anybody who has read Karen's posts on Fornits will remember her filthy language and venomous attacks against a certain poster -- all the while working hard to sell Jesus as the answer to straightening out wayward teens (ALA).

IMO, she is a first-class hypocrite and I really wish she would get a life and stop using Fornits seemingly as her personal bully pulpit.

IMO
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« Reply #563 on: March 06, 2005, 05:25:00 PM »
Where have I used filthy language?

You are entitled to think what you will of me - but you don't get to judge me - nor I you - and believe you this, thats lucky for you.
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« Reply #564 on: March 06, 2005, 07:17:00 PM »
Pig to Bacon

Egg to food

Tears to joy

Hero to Jesus

Licks to beatings

I'm scared, my food is cold

-WHITMORE'S SHINING STAR
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« Reply #565 on: March 06, 2005, 11:21:00 PM »
Truly wish Whitmore's Shining Star would talk to us, because I do not understand the message trying to be expressed in the poetry.
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« Reply #566 on: March 06, 2005, 11:55:00 PM »
LOL Buzzkill ... guess you forgot about all those posts of yours which were deleted, presumably by yourself?

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« Reply #567 on: March 07, 2005, 12:16:00 AM »
To ANON who seems to post behind Buzzkill:

Do you think it was really fair to disclose Buzzkill's full name, IF that is really who Buzzkill is?

That just really seemed like a low, low blow to me.  Why did you do that?
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« Reply #568 on: March 07, 2005, 11:44:00 AM »
There's a lot in that poetry. Almost spells out the abuse, lack of food, the horrible conditions of that place and the twisted condition of the kids' minds after being there.
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« Reply #569 on: March 07, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
I never used filthy language.
I have refered to the Bock Bitch, and the WWASP whore; all very apt phrases for the anon ass hole who sold her hard drive to wwasp for 12,500.00; thus provideding wwasp with thousands of personal and private emails, from dozens of people, who had been nothing but helpful and supportive of her efforts on
behalf of her sons.
I don't think this rises to the level of filthy language.
If you feel differently anon, you might want to take your extream sensitivites elsewhere.
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