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« Reply #360 on: February 02, 2005, 01:09:00 AM »
Does the Whitmore pay finder's fee? Ask Sue Scheff at PURE!  Of course Whitmore pays. Almost every kid at Whitmore is referred by Sue Scheff. Whitmore is her gravy train! She even has her own escort service to drag kids to the Whitmore, whatever it takes to get them there. Some people call it a 'referral fee.'  I call it a 'bounty fee.'  Whatever you call it---Sue Scheff gets paid.
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« Reply #361 on: February 02, 2005, 03:19:00 PM »
About the emails. Cheryl read emails from home aloud in the group sessions to humiliate my daughter, who still cries when she talks about it. She says she would have to just sit there and take it and take it. Says Cheryl would laugh like a crazy person while she read the email, making fun of what was said in the email...just absolute humiliation, destroying this girl's sense of family, sense of dignity. My daughter says she just sat there helpless, and hurt. All she can ask now is why?  Why would Cheryl be so evil What was the purpose?  I just tell her that no one can explain that woman, except may a really good shrink. She truly is a sick person.
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« Reply #362 on: February 02, 2005, 04:35:00 PM »
I think there's more going on than that. One poster talked about someone getting into trouble for sneaking email to her parents w/o Cheryl's knowledge. Another talks about monitoring emails as one of the chores delegated to higher level kids and also about saving the material for future reference.

BTW, they used to read diaries and personal letters and such in Group at Straight. Same thing. Ridicule, anger, shouting and utter humiliation ensued. Very effective, if you're enough of a monster to carry it out.

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« Reply #363 on: February 02, 2005, 07:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #364 on: February 03, 2005, 09:43:00 AM »
Chery Sudweeks was that monster. She read emails from parents to their kids, and the kids emails homes to humiliate the kids, and to show that the kids were being disloyal to the group to the Whitmore "family."  If it was something Cheryl considered "bad enough" then she would take away privileges for the whole group, and make the whole group mad at this one kid.  This way she could then eaisly get the group to gang up on this kid and have them yell and scream at the kid, and then it was easy to go to the next sick step and have them physically attack the kid. This is how she operates.  She is a monster, and she loves this monsterous game she plays.
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« Reply #365 on: February 03, 2005, 09:46:00 AM »
What is this? "jhkhhhhhhhhhhhhhhg" I know my kid said you guys wrote in codes.  Does this mean something?
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« Reply #366 on: February 03, 2005, 01:16:00 PM »
I know this is true as she is the person (Sue from PURE) who talked me into the Whitmore also.  We lost a lot of money for nothing but damaging things done to our child.  Stay away from this place, the owner (Cheryl) is not a normal, functioning person and does a lot of unhealthy things to children.
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« Reply #367 on: February 03, 2005, 01:23:00 PM »
Hello everyone, I'm a former student of the Whitmore Academy. I've been reading this forum for the past week to see whats been said and I'd like to answer any questions anyone has.
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« Reply #368 on: February 03, 2005, 01:38:00 PM »
Hi!  Thanks for the opportunity.  I'll get right to it.

Are communications between parents and children monitored in any fashion?

Are letters intercepted and read aloud in the group setting?  Or used to humiliate and ridicule the child?

Is there any pressure with regards to religion?  I know they state that there is not a religious preference, but is that really true?

Are the kids allowed any 'personal time'.  Time alone with their own thoughts?

Are kids kept up late?  I don't mean just a little late, but does it cross the line of sleep deprivation?

Is communication with their parents withheld as punishment?


I appreciate you taking the time to answer these.  

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« Reply #369 on: February 03, 2005, 02:20:00 PM »
I'll be glad to answer these questions because i experienced some of these things myself.

Are communications between parents and children monitored in any fashion?

I never really knew for sure when they were listening in but I know for a fact that they do in fact listen in to certain conversations with the parents. In some cases when there were "new" kids there they would always listen in or have the speaker phone on to see whats being said to prevent new kids from trying to "manipulate" their parents in Cheryl's words.

Are letters intercepted and read aloud in the group setting? Or used to humiliate and ridicule the child?

If you are caught writing a letter to your parents about how you don't like it there or how much you want to be home, Cheryl has in several occassions read letters and emails out loud in group in order to humiliate whoever wrote it and to turn the rest of the group against that kid.

Is there any pressure with regards to religion? I know they state that there is not a religious preference, but is that really true?

I think there is a lot of religious pressure. We had to walk to Morman church every Sunday and attend Sunday school as well. If you choose not to go, which you just don't and usually can't do, you have to write essays all day instead. I never tried to get out of going to church only because like you're all saying, you want to be on Cheryl's good side, that even means pretending to understand the church, etc. It beyond me why they do this but several kids decide to convert to Morman in my opinion just to become one of Cheryl's favorites.

Are the kids allowed any 'personal time'. Time alone with their own thoughts?

You are allowed personal along time but it's rare. The only time I was allowed alone time was when I was told to go to my room after doing something wrong, which was usually total bullshit.


Are kids kept up late? I don't mean just a little late, but does it cross the line of sleep deprivation?

Not getting enough sleep is what probably pisses me off the most about the Whitmore. As it's been said here, group sometimes went on as late as 3 in the morning a few times. In those cases we maybe got to sleep until 7:30-8 depending on how group went. Group almost always ended around midnight unless there was a major issue. In that case we still had to wake up t 4:30. The whole point to this sleep deprivation shit is the gets a stronghold on the kids when they dont have sleep. I know that there were plenty of times where I knew I was right when she was yelling in my face, but couldn't really say anything because I was so out of it. Cheryl never needed to sleep because she was like a friggin vampire down in her basement all night. I don't know how much she slept but I know for a fact she was always an emotional wreck because she didnt get any sleep,and she usually took it out on US.

Is communication with their parents withheld as punishment?

There are certain circumstances that kids aren't allowed to talk to their parents at all. There was a point in time during my stay there in the beginning that I wasn't allowed to talk to my parents for a few weeks because they were afraid I would tell my parents what was going on and try to manipulate them to take me home. I usually didn't even want to speak to my parents because even when I could talk to them I couldn't really say how I was doing because I would have been punished.


I hope this helps you, let me know if you have anymore questions.
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« Reply #370 on: February 03, 2005, 02:23:00 PM »
If anyone has any questions about the Joey incident I'd be glad to help you out I witnessed everything.
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« Reply #371 on: February 03, 2005, 02:27:00 PM »
hey anon this is chris... im sure i know you really well, and now that we're both out you should IM me or call me if you have my number. My aim is chasingdogma50 ~ chris
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« Reply #372 on: February 03, 2005, 02:33:00 PM »
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"If anyone has any questions about the Joey incident I'd be glad to help you out I witnessed everything."


Would you please just describe in your own words what you personally witnessed?  

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« Reply #373 on: February 03, 2005, 04:59:00 PM »
First off I just want to make it clear that no one just gets beat at the Whitmore like other programs and I never witnessed Cheryl or Mark hit anyone while I was there except for the time that two girls that were there for a long time ran away. The only abuse I ever saw was when Joey was hit by other kids for getting drunk.
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« Reply #374 on: February 03, 2005, 05:51:00 PM »
youre full of crap- i followed schedule, really did work, and you did too you LIAR> stop lying stop lying nobodys gonna believe you anymore i hope. bye
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