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« Reply #195 on: December 05, 2004, 08:51:00 PM »
DEAR CONCERNED CITIZEN;  IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR YOU TO REPORT WHAT YOU OBSERVED TO THE AUTHORITIES.  YOU SAW WHAT YOU SAW, AND NOW YOU HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO REPORT IT!

IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU ARE AT FAULT TOO!  THESE KIDS ARE TOO SCARED, OR FOOLED TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES....REMEMBER IT TAKES A COMMUNITY TO RAISE A CHILD, AND THIS IS HAPPENING IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
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« Reply #196 on: December 05, 2004, 08:56:00 PM »
Oh, did hannah just get the shit beat out of her because she just took a stroll down the street? Was Camille beat up for this same reason.

C'on  those two girls ran away and got their butts kicked for it and you know it Chris.
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« Reply #197 on: December 05, 2004, 10:03:00 PM »
why doesn't everybody shut the fuck up because the truth will come out eventually. think about it. nobody is getting the point or nobody cares. so if everybody is so right just leave it at that. this issue was dead a long time ago and all this arguing is going nowhere
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« Reply #198 on: December 05, 2004, 10:15:00 PM »
what issue is dead a long time ago? This is just getting started! It is far from settled.
my my my---is that the fine language you learn under the care of Mr. and Mrs. Sudweeks?
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« Reply #199 on: December 05, 2004, 10:17:00 PM »
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE POINT THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE GETTING, CAN YOU TELL ME THAT?
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« Reply #200 on: December 05, 2004, 10:48:00 PM »
To the concerned neighbor in Nephi,

First, thanks so much for taking an interest.

No, I don't think there's any law against cult practices exactly. There's a very fuzzy line between voluntary involvement in a group, such as a religion or club, and what the psyche field calls coercive persuasion. Here's some info on that:

http://www.factnet.org/coercivemindcontrol.html?FACTNet

However, there are laws against some of the things that nearly always occure under those circumstances. For example, out in the real world where you livve, it's clearly wrong and illegal to verbally assault someone on the street as you describe. But, in an insular community, this kind of behavior comes to seem more than OK. If they'll do that to a critic out in public, can you just imagine what they might do to a 12 or 13 year old kid who tries to disagree w/ them behind closed doors?

And I'm not angry w/ you for not doing something already or whatever. This is just not something that most people readily recognize or have learned how to deal with. But I agree w/ the anon poster above. Local media investigation is important. Persistant local interest is important.

Don't be afraid to look at it from a purely self serving position, either. A high demand group in your area, making money, buying property, involving themselves in local politics, etc. is a direct threat to your community. Look into what happened w/ the Synanon Church leading up to the culmination of events when their leader, Chuck Dederich, was convicted of attempting to murder a lawyer who represented a former Synanon member.

I understand that Whitmore has a dozen or so corporate names. You might look into what they're doing under those names.

Finally, it was community interest and investigation that pushed The Seed out of Miami and, eventually, put a stop to their federal funding. So go for it. Ask your local papers and broadcasters, educators and mental health professional associations and regulatory boards to look into this place. That's what you pay them to do, after all.

If there's nothing to worry about, then I suppose Whitmore can stand some close scrutiny, right?  

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« Reply #201 on: December 05, 2004, 10:48:00 PM »
To that person in Nephi. When do you consider abuse "bad enough?"  If you saw any child being abused whether they are a Whitmore resident or not, don't you feel you should report it? This is crazy to me. Any type of abuse to a child is by far "enough."  Call the police now!  Every bit of information can help close this place. You have a duty to every child there.
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« Reply #202 on: December 05, 2004, 10:52:00 PM »
First time I ever heard of Nephi, Utah was that crazy Green guy with all the wives, a few just young girls.  Now this alleged abuse of kids at Whitmore.  What the hell kind of town is this?

Where's the police, the mayor, somebody needs to look around and control some of these people.
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« Reply #203 on: December 05, 2004, 10:53:00 PM »
IT TOOK NATIONAL TV, DATELINE AND ALL THAT TO PUT GREEN IN PRISON WHERE HE BELONGED.  MAYBE WHITMORE NEEDS SOME NATIONAL ATTENTION!
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« Reply #204 on: December 05, 2004, 10:58:00 PM »
yeah! none of the mrs.'s Greene's knew they were being abused either.  Someone had to tell those women and young girls they were being abused. abuse victims are often the last to acknowledge and recogonize abuse. how can we expect a bunch of kids to recognize what is happening to them? Where are the parents of all these kids?
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« Reply #205 on: December 06, 2004, 11:06:00 AM »
Hi..
    I don't have much say in this, but one of my friends went to the Whitmore about 9 months ago. I have talked to them about 3 or 4 times, and they couldnt sound happier. It seems like the Whitmore has given him his life back, and changed him for the better.he would have been able to tell me anything he wanted because no one was around to listen to him talk....

However, reading all these posts is concerning me, and I would just like to know the truth about what is really going on, :sad:

Thanks.
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« Reply #206 on: December 06, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »
My son is attending Whitmore now.  He has been there for 5 weeks and I can already see changes.  I was impressed from the first moment I arrived there.
 good luck
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« Reply #207 on: December 06, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »
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« Reply #208 on: December 06, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-06 10:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My son is attending Whitmore now.  He has been there for 5 weeks and I can already see changes.  I was impressed from the first moment I arrived there.

 good luck"


I'm sure you were. :roll: Send the kiddies somewhere so they can fix what the parents broke in the first place.  

You're beginning to see the TAME CHILD-CREATURE.

ZAPPA STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!

The more BORING a child is, the more the parents,
when showing off the child, receive adulation for
being GOOD PARENTS -- because they have a TAME
CHILD-CREATURE in their house.

Frank Zappa
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« Reply #209 on: December 06, 2004, 07:57:00 PM »
Change is always something new and different from whatever went before. But it's not always better. Our government first took interest in the thought reform tecniques practiced by Koreen POW camp operators because they couldn't understand how good American soldiers could become convinced of the superiority of Communist doctrine over good old American independence. But, by the time they were done studying the technique, our good veterens had figured it out for themselves. Read "Before Dishonor" by McDowell.

My dad gave me that book in the spring before the Enterprise reunion in Pensecola in summer where I met the author. He never did understand what they were trying to do to him. Didn't need to, he just resisted. And then came home. I thought of him often as I sat in group.

On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind.
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