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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2004, 10:09:00 PM »
What about the parents that pay an education consultant who has never experienced what it's like to be on the "inside?"  I'd take the word of a parent who's been involved over an ed con that is charging high fees for this.  The schools also pay the ed con's so they do tend to refer to the ones that pay the higher commission.  Yes, BUYER BEWARE.
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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2004, 10:51:00 PM »
No, most programs DO NOT pay ed cons. As for your claim that parents are somehow better at this game because they have been "involved" with a program, that is pure poppycock.  These parents are highly biased and more likely to refer to a program that pays a referral fee then one that does not.  Either way (Ed Con or Professional Parent) there ought to be laws protecting consumers like they have for used cars.
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2004, 10:58:00 PM »
Has an ed con ever been sued by a parent/child? What about these freelancing program referral parents?  Seems to me this self-regulated cottage industry is ripe for a precedent-setting wake-up call.

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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2004, 11:04:00 PM »
BTW: It would help if someone posted a copy of one of the disclaimers or the contract these parents enter into with these outfits. Names can be xxxx'd out, just so we get a frame of reference about the terms and conditions of private placement referrals.  Second, adolescent healthcare professionals don't get kickbacks for referrals, why should ed cons or parents?
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2004, 08:59:00 PM »
These programs who pay kickbacks for referrals should be ashamed of themselves and the people who are getting rich off the backs of these poor kids should be, too.  DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2004, 09:41:00 PM »
TO THE PARENTS
 
AS LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA S. DE RL.? WE FEEL IT IS OUR MORAL DUTY TO INFORM YOU THE FOLLOWING.
 
THE CORPORATION CALLED ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA?  (?ABUNDANT LIFE ACADEMY AT LAKE CHAPALA?) WAS CONSTITUTED WITH A HUNDRED PER CENT MEXICAN CAPITAL, ON APRIL 30th OF 2003, UNDER PUBLIC DOCUMENT NO. 8,286, VOLUME 184, IN HERMOSILLO, SONORA, BEFORE NOTARY NO. 46, ATTORNEY ROMELIA RUIZ CAZARES AND IT WAS REGISTERED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE OF CHAPALA, JALISCO, ON MAY, 7th, 2003, WITH THE NUMBER 173 OF THE SECOND TOME OF THE FIRST BOOK OF THE RECORDS COMMERCE, AND AT THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE, WITH THE FEDERAL REGISTRATION (RFC) AVA030430TE9, BEING PARTNERS, THE ATTORNEY PATRICIA BETANCOURT RAMIREZ AS THE SOLE ADMINISTRATOR, MRS. IRELENA MONGE BETANCOURT AS THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CORPORATION AND MR. JOSUE ROMAN APARICIO GOMEZ AS GENERAL MANAGER.
 
THE IDEA OF HAVING OUR ?ACADEMIA? IN THE COMMUNITY OF AJIJIC, JALISCO, AS WELL AS RENTING THE REAL STATE AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ITS OPERATION WERE NEGOTIATED IN THE MONTH OF MAY. SUBSEQUENTLY, IT WAS AGREED WITH MR. CRAIG ROGERS, VERBALLY, TO RECEIVE THE YOUNGSTERS THAT HE WOULD SEND FROM THE ABUNDANT LIFE ACADEMY UTAH.  THE CHARGE WAS TO BE $2,000.00 U.S. DOLLARS PER STUDENT (MONTHLY) WHO WOULD GET ROOM AND BOARD IN THE HOUSE AT 94-?A? CONSTITUTION STREET IN AJIJIC.   FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, MR. ROGERS DIDN?T PAY THE AGREED AMOUNT OF TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE AGREED UPON AMOUNT. INSTEAD HE PAID ONLY $500.00 U.S. DOLLARS PER STUDENT. THE CONTRACT WAS NEVER FORMALLY LEGALIZED WITH THE UTAH ABUNDANT LIFE ACADEMY. WE WAITED FOR HIM TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION, BUT HE DID NOT RESPOND.
 
FOR THAT REASON AND REQUIRING MORE PERSONNEL TO PROVIDE BETTER CARE FOR THE YOUNGSTERS, MR. CRAIG ROGERS WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AS TO THE INCOME IN UTAH AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTS THAT HE MADE WITH THE PARENTS.  HE DIDN?T PAY ATTENTION TO OUR REQUEST AND THE ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? CONTINUED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO THE YOUNGSTERS. VARIOUS CONSULTANTS VISITED THE INSTITUTION IN JUNE AND JULY AND WILL CONFIRM THE EXCELLENCE OF OUR SERVICE.
 
THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ASSOCIATION OF VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE STAFF THAT MR. CRAIG ROGERS HIRED FOR THE GUIDANCE OF THE YOUNGSTERS, THEY WERE PEOPLE WITHOUT EXPERIENCE IN THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM, SPECIALLY MR. JOHN NIELSEN WHO HAS A BAD RECORD IN HIS PREVIOUS JOBS. THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN THE ARCHIVES OF A WORLD KNOW ASOCIATION CALLED ?YOUTH WITH A MISION? A.R. IN CHAPALA, JALISCO  (YWAM, JALISCO) WITH A WEB SITE http://www.ywamguadalajara.com.
 
FOR THESE REASONS, WE INFORMED MR. CRAIG ROGERS AS TO THE SITUATION ABOVE MENTIONED WAS DAMAGING THE IMAGE OF THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE SUBSTANCE HE WAS PUTTING AT RISK THE EDUCATION OF THE YOUNGSTERS.  MR. ROGERS DIDN?T RESPOND TO THIS AND INSTEAD HE FOCUSSED IN FINDING AN INVESTOR FOR ?HIS? BUSINESS.  HE NEVER LET US KNOW ANY OF THIS. HE ASKED FOR THE BOOKS OF OUR CORPORATION, WHICH WAS DENIED BECAUSE WE HAD NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO DO THIS. THEREFORE MR. ROGERS DECIDE TO GO TO THE ACCOUNTANT?S OFFICE AND WITH THREATS TRIED TO GET THEM (THERE ARE WITNESSES OF THIS FACTS). BEING ANNOYED BY NOT GETTING THE RECORDS HE ORDERED MR. JOSUE ROMAN APARICIO TO GO FROM THE PROPERTY RENTED BY OUR CORPORATION SLANDERED AND THREATED HIM.
 
WHEN THE SITUATION GOT TO THIS POINT WE DECIDED FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR CHILDREN, TO PUT OUR CORPORATION ON SALE TO MR. ROGERS BUT HE COULDN?T PAY. THAT IS WHY THE MEMBERS OF ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? HAVE TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY WE HAD RENTED AND PROCEED LEGAL ACTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN AN ILLEGAL MANNER.
 
WE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS NOT AND THERE WAS NEVER WAS DURING THE FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS OF OPERATION ANY CONTRACT WITH MR. CRAIG ROGERS TO PROMOTE OUR SERVICES THROUGH THE INTERNET, A WEB PAGE ?ABUNDANT LIFE ACEDEMY? WHERE HE APPOINTS HIMSELF AS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR SCHOOL IN MEXICO AND THE ACADEMY OF ABUNDANT LIFE OF UTAH. BY THE SAME TOKEN, IT NEVER EXISTED ANY CONTRACT WITH HIM FOR HIS SERVICES. EVERYTHING WAS DONE BY COMMON AGREEMENT, HOPING THAT HE WOULD CLEAR OUT THE FINANCING STATEMENTS OF HIS BUSSINES IN THE UNITED STATES.
 
SOME OF THE PARENTS, AS WELL AS SOME AMERICAN RESIDENTS THAT ARE NEIGHBORS OF THE ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. JOSUE APARICIO TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AND ALSO TO EXPRESS THEIR DISATISFACTION WITH MR. JOHN NIELSEN?S ATTITUDE AND THE LACK OF MORALITY AND ETHICS FROM MR. CRAIG ROGERS.  THEY HAVE ALSO ASKED HIM TO SUPPORT US IN ANY SITUATION THAT WILL CARRY ON IN THE FUTURE.
 
WE ARE REALLY SORRY FOR WHAT UNFORTUNATELY IS HAPPENING NOW, HOWEVER WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REQUIRED OR DESIRED.
abundantlifeacademyatlakechapala@yahoo.com.mx
 
 
SINCERELY,
ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA, S. DE R.L.
 
 
ADMINISTRATOR
ATTY. PATRICIA BETANCOURT RAMIREZ
 
 
GENERAL MANAGER
CPA JOSUE R. APARICIO GOMEZ
 
AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE
IRELENA MONGE BETANCOURT
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2004, 10:17:00 PM »
Karen, aka Nate's mom, is this about your wonderful Mr. Rogers?  Oh what a web we weave!  You sure do stand by some winners...but then I guess it goes with the territory.
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
Mrs. D.VA. is no longer on the list of PURE parent volunteers.  :???:

http://helpyourteens.com/about_us.html
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2004, 06:59:00 PM »
Who coined the term "professional" parents?  Talk about M.O.R.O.N.I.C.

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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2004, 09:45:00 PM »
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"Who coined the term "professional" parents?  Talk about M.O.R.O.N.I.C.



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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2005, 01:06:00 PM »
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On 2004-01-26 04:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What schools or programs does Mrs. D.VA have personal experience with?  



 :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???:  :???: "

She's a regular poster on StrugglingTeens.  You can read her B.S. over there.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2005, 01:49:00 PM »
Can you imagine being the child of a parent who posts ad nauseum about their institutionalized kid's personal (and by the way, very private) life on a forum like ST?

These parents have WAAAAAY too much time on their hands if they can sit around posting on discussion forums all day long about the trials and tribulations of their "programized" kids.

Too bad the kids can't do the same ... but you know these kids are isolated from the real world.  Not allowed internet access while in an emotional growth boarding school.  What a crock!

I'm sorry, but these parents make me wanna P.U.K.E.
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2005, 06:19:00 PM »
Mrs. DVa's son has been out of program for a long time.  Leave it to DJ to dig up a year and a half old post and respond just to stir things up.
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
Don't read ST myself, but does this mother still post on there about her son who has been out of the program after all this time? Does she?
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2005, 12:20:00 PM »
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"Mrs. DVa's son has been out of program for a long time.  Leave it to DJ to dig up a year and a half old post and respond just to stir things up."

She's still posting, yes.  Recently too - within a couple of weeks.  She argues with Andrea from PFRR and Barbe from TAUSA.
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