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« on: January 24, 2004, 11:33:00 PM »
http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=000699

Since Mrs. D.Va is a PURE volunteer, and the tone of this thread, seems she's using strugging teens to market her program...and right under the nose of struggling teens! Why else would she want to exchange "private" e-mails with the poster?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2004, 10:14:00 AM »
Isn't that something.  Sue did not want to allow the pictures of abused kids to be posted on the struggling teens site but she will allow her supporters to post and privately recruit.

Maybe it is not about saving kids at all, maybe it is her underhanded way of doing business the only way she knows how.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2004, 01:42:00 PM »
could you elaborate on why you posted the links.  I have missed your point.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2004, 11:12:00 PM »
I'm Mrs.D.VA

I am offended.  I volunteer my time exclusively to pass along our experiences for the benefit of others.  I receive nothing, ask for nothing and would not accept anything.  It is unfortunate that some of you cannot see this.

I will not defend myself to anyone for the actions we took to save our son's life and provide him a future.  Sending a child away to any residential school or program should be considered as a last resort and is what we did.

I do not recruit for anyone, any organization, program, school, company, etc.  I listen and talk with other parents in very scary situations with their children.  I don't advise or tell anyone what to do.  I relate my experiences with my son and what we did to help him.  Passing along information regarding hospitals, school districts and juvenile courts can help many other parents.

I read this board from time to time and I am amazed to read the cynicism in most posts.  It is very sad that most of you don't spend more time trying to help the industry rather than hurt it.  How about spending time and energy focused on fixing our public school districts, mental health departments, juvenile court services and our health insurance industry?  All of which do little at best to help struggling teens, especially the school system.

There is a need for private residential treatment facilities, schools and programs for some children, not all, but for some.  A safe environment with therapy for the kids to work on their behaviors, emotions and issues after all else has been tried and failed.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 12:21:00 AM »
Debbie - I agree with you on doing something about the lack of effective help.  

What I see on the site link is that once the gentleman said he was speaking to an educational consultant, you asked him if it was okay to e-mail him privately (my interpretation.) Since you are a PURE parent volunteer, it looks to me (reading between the lines) that your intention was to direct them to PURE or, to share your experience with your child's RTC. A  big no no on this board, I would imagine.   There is no reason to e-mail  this poster privately from a public forum.  

You seem like an intelligent woman that has had many challenges with your family.  I have read your posts on struggling teens and see that you are genuine in what you share.  I personally found it sneaky that you chose to ask this man to e-mail him privately after he has already been in contact with an Ed Consultant.  

It's none of anyone's business if you get compensated or not from PURE.  Maybe it's the way in which you choose to "share" that has me wondering about your credibility.  
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2004, 07:56:00 AM »
What schools or programs does Mrs. D.VA have personal experience with?  

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 10:27:00 AM »
My husband walked by as I was reading the posts this morning and said "It looks like people are more worried about following protocol than actually helping anyone".

Where was it ever said I was talking or pushing my son's TBS on anyone else?  Since there was not the "private" email exchange icon open, I simply gave my email address out.  Since the poster was talking of his teen's suicide attempts, I could relate.

I am not substituting myself as an educational consultant.  My goals are only to offer experiences with our son.  I feel I can offer support, a shoulder, an ear and explain our son's experience at his TBS without even mentioning the name of the facility.  Talk about different forms of therapy from private therapy to group sessions.

I suggest that we all focus more on helping and less on personal attacks.  My opinion.  

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2004, 11:47:00 AM »
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I am not substituting myself as an educational consultant. My goals are only to offer experiences with our son. I feel I can offer support, a shoulder, an ear and explain our son's experience at his TBS without even mentioning the name of the facility. Talk about different forms of therapy from private therapy to group sessions.
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Well Debbie if that is the case, why didn't you share that on Lon's site?  Why did you feel the need to take your experience private?

I can understand your need in tryng to justify what you have done given the fact that you know what you could be up against legally.  

Why are you posting as an ANON here?
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2004, 12:26:00 PM »
Like I said before, I've only read this forum from time to time and last night was the first post ever.  Didn't really see a need to sign up, but finally did today.  I'm not in hiding.

I talk and listen to parents and relate our son's trials and tribulations along with his progress and success.  Our story has been posted several times for nearly two years on Lon's site.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2004, 12:31:00 PM »
Debbie, how is it that you got involved with the PURE organization and is Mr. Woodbury and the other members of the parents online-support-group aware that you are a PURE parent volunteer?

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »
PURE parent volunteers are simply parents who have "been there done that" with struggling teens and just might be able to relate to another parent in a similar situation.

To me, being a parent of a struggling teen, with experience involved with psychiatric hospitals, IEP's and fighting for rights in school districts, having our son involved with juvenile court services and local mental health departments makes me somewhat knowledgeable in dealing with some of these issues with our kids.

Like I said, I listen and talk to other parents, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, Lon knows that I know Sue.
No, Sue did not refer or send us to any particular program.
Yes, Sue knows of the schools we used for our son.
No, we found the schools on our own and didn't use an educational consultant.

Lighten Up,
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »
Welcome to FORNITS Mrs. D.VA, where by the way, telling people to "lighten up" could be considered poor communication skills.

What's up with your post about a class-action lawsuit on the Struggling Teens forum?  Kind of meager details there.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=3887&forum=9

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