On 2004-01-17 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Mail not getting to the recipient? So how did the friends get the address to send that mail? If they don't have an address, they don't get the mail...duh! Doubt the parents gave the friends an address and directions to their kid! Think about it.
Satisfied parents, satisfied teens. I don't get the "satisfaction thing anyway. I do get that the kids NEVER wanted to be there, not even when things were going good inside the program. They wanted to be home, which is change, cuz most of them didn't want to be at home when they were "home." Go figure!
I don't experience the satisfied parents as being controllers, I experience the negative posters on this board as controllers. Obviously if a dad believed the crap enough to really
think his kid was being abused, then you've done a good job in your own form of brainwashing and mind control. :rofl: "
You're a real moron, aren't you? If you know the name of the school, there's this wonderful thing called "Google" that gives you the address.
And you know what? I don't care about your weird "experience" program jargon. There is fact, and there are things that are factually incorrect. Specific individuals either have pathological drives to control other people, or they do not.
Posting opinions to an open, uncensored board is not a controlling behavior. That you can mistake it for one shows that you can't tell the difference between behaviors to control another person and behaviors that control ones' self---you can't tell the difference between behaviors within the limit of yourself and who you are, and behaviors that impinge within someone else's self and who that person is.
You think that just because you perceive something within yourself, your "experience", has some special value that trumps objective reality.
That mental disconnect from what's outside you--from objective reality--is unhealthy as hell.
It separates you from being able to notice when you're doing things that the group defines as okay but people outside the group would define as monstrous----it renders you totally defenseless against something called "groupthink."
Remember the EF Hutton scandal? Anderson Consulting? Enron?---those are business scandals, but the principle is the same---people get caught up in a group, the group decides certain behaviors are normal and okay----that the outside world would say were definitely not okay.
And they were able to go a long, long way down that road doing things the group decided were okay, and along the way they forgot, or lost touch with, the standards of the outside world that said those things weren't okay to do----until they got caught and the whole groupthink delusion came tumbling down in one big huge scandal.
Even though the group had decided internally that what they did at EF Hutton, Anderson, Enron was okay, when it all came apart, they had to face the consequences of what their groupthink said was okay, and society said was criminal. There were huge losses of money, losses of jobs, and in some cases jail time involved.
Your loss is setting up to be a 25 year old grown kid who will either not have anything to do with you, or will carefully restrict time with you and your part in that grown kid's life---at best.
This isn't going to persuade you, because you're unhooked from reality and stuck in the cult-induced phobia---you probably really believe your kid will die if you go get her and put her back in your local school system.
But other people on the outside looking in, undecided people, might read this and decide *not* to become unhooked from outside reality the way you have.
You don't seem to be a bad person. Then again, most of the people at Jonestown who fed cyanide to their babies weren't bad people, either.
I don't think you'll get as far as killing babies, but you've already gotten as far as unwisely placing your child in an institution whose leaders have a bad reputation for abuse.
If objective reality is that your child gets abused, and you leave her there until "graduation," the history of program relationships is that five to ten years after she leaves, she will probably severely curtail her relationship with you, and you probably won't get it back.
And it won't matter whether you "experienced" what was done to her as abuse.
For others who have not yet unhooked their line to reality and decided to free solo on the slopes of grave moral hazard, maybe they can take you as an object lesson and not go there.
I'm sorry there's nothing I can do to help you.
