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« Reply #180 on: January 05, 2005, 07:22:00 PM »
The slapping stopped by 1980, and that was the year Howey opened. Believe me or don't believe me, your choice. In a dorm meeting me and two other students were slapped for turnins by three faculty members and one other very burly student. I went through the same thing on the MSN site until, a well known dorm parent verified it. That's where the expression "getting hit up for turnins" came from if anyone is at all curious. I wouldn't expect anyone to believe anything that took place at DeSisto unless they saw it themselves, because a lot of the shit that went on is unbelievable even to DeSistoites. I know the  director(Sean Moffat) who put an end to some of the more atrocious Lake Grove practices, including slapping for turnins.  If we were on the MSN site I could get on a good day get at least three or four people to back up everything I have said.  The truth is out there about the DeSisto School and its history, but students and parents are still going to supress their memories, and believe whatever they want to.
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« Reply #181 on: January 05, 2005, 07:46:00 PM »
But it did not happen at howey, that's all i'm saying. I can not speak for the years i was not there. or anything at stockbridge. It was really not that bad when i was there.
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« Reply #182 on: January 06, 2005, 05:45:00 AM »
" I know the director(Sean Moffat) who put an end to some of the more atrocious Lake Grove practices, including slapping for turnins "

I was at Lake Grove in the mid seventies for 2 years and there was nothing like that when I was there so I don't know when that started.

At Lake Grove we were in a soccer league with other private schools. We went off campus by ourselves to the Smithhaven Mall on Saturday afternoons or sometimes during the week with permission. We saw our families basically every two weeks, once a month on Visiting Sunday and once a month on going home weekends.  We would pile into the school bus and would be dropped off in NYC. We came and went on our own without supervision and were trusted to return Sunday night.  Those from Detroit or out of the NY stayed on campus . This is in addition to vacations at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Summer vacation was June, July, and August. There was an optional trip to Europe the summer between the 2 years I was at the school. The prior year there was a cross country trip.

Students did run away but not many and they were always found usually hitching a ride or at the train station.

If you broke the rules ie stole, smoked pot ,ran away, or whatever and confessed your sin to your dorm mates
you were forgiven . That was it. It became a joke that you could do anything and as long as you said you were sorry afterward you were fine.
Example : We had a soda machine which required change. The student that maintained the machine kept $5 in quarters in this room. Anyone from his dorm was allowed into his room to make change for themselves or the students in the other dorms. Sometimes someone would steal the $5. Since only people in our dorm had access to the money, we would have to be in a dorm meeting until someone confessed . The dorm would then forgive the person for steeling and that would be it. A  different time I guess.
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« Reply #183 on: January 06, 2005, 06:14:00 AM »
When did leashing start? I know Grovers who will say there no leashes there, and some that there definitely were.
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« Reply #184 on: January 06, 2005, 08:28:00 AM »
A leash was nothing but staying in arms distance with a fellow student, it happened when you were in trouble. Or maybe they thought you might run. Was not fun, but not abuse.
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« Reply #185 on: January 06, 2005, 10:15:00 AM »
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
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« Reply #186 on: January 07, 2005, 09:56:00 AM »
Cornerning was nothing but sitting in a corner if you were in trouble or they thought you would run. Not abuse
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« Reply #187 on: January 07, 2005, 12:15:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... um=8#74654

Explains how "group think" can effect a person.  There doesn't have to be horrendous physical abuse for a program to do major damage.  99% of the damage that was done to me had to do with the psych aspect of the program.
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« Reply #188 on: January 07, 2005, 12:16:00 PM »
Plain and simple, parents and programs that posses no real skills in the art of human relationships resort to austere, harsh, excessive, and abusive punishment. They just want their discomfort to stop. Any means to that end looks like 'success'.
Spare the punishment and spoil the child. Will this paradigm ever cease to exist?
Probably not, because to do anything else, requires one to invest time and energy into learning something different. To learn that respect begets respect. Anything else is not genuine respect. To learn that children are absolutely the product of their conditioning. You got a 'manipulative' child? Odds are extremely high that you or someone very close to them modeled manipulation.
Punishment, humiliation, shame, blame, guilt, coercive manimpulation, corporal punishment, jail/prison has never solved any of society's ills or family problems.
Send the kids to grandma and put the parents in a parenting gulag.
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« Reply #189 on: January 08, 2005, 01:47:00 PM »
So what's the deal with Margie? She'd have to be a real freak in her own right to hook up with freak show  Mike DeSisto. I never liked her. I found her stupid. Her bread sculptures were plain awful. Yet she does have her fans. I don't she was in her right mind to live the bizarre lifestyle she did.
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« Reply #190 on: January 08, 2005, 04:07:00 PM »
Yeah, she never had a real job at school
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« Reply #191 on: January 14, 2005, 03:23:00 AM »
You can't compare Lake Grove to DeSisto.  They were two completely different schools with two completely different approaches.
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« Reply #192 on: January 14, 2005, 11:38:00 AM »
Oranges to tangerines then:

1)a lot of the same staff, therapists and students
2)similiar rules
3)The big "D" himself
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« Reply #193 on: January 14, 2005, 01:35:00 PM »
The big difference was that at Lake Grove Michael Desisto had to answer to someone . Al Brayson was the headmaster/owner of Lake Grove. Though Brayson was not involved in the day to day running of the school, Desisto reported to Brayson. I believe Desisto was fired from Lake Grove because he or someone working with him took the names and addresses of the parents of former Lake Grove students in order to raise money to purchase the school in Stockbridge.
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« Reply #194 on: April 01, 2005, 08:59:00 PM »
Mike DeSisto was a big fat homo!! End of story
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