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« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2004, 02:21:00 PM »
My name is Craig Rogers, and I am the Executive Director of Abundant Life Academy.  First I want to applaud Fornit's forum, and thank them for their commitment to help good intentioned people to expose the fraudulent practices of some specialty school programs.  


I am sure that the moderator, as well as the viewers of this forum, are aware that not all posts are legitimate.  We all have to take each and every post, including mine, with a grain of salt realizing that the words written may not accurately reflect the facts or truth.  In essence, we should all be aware that even cowards with a bone of contention can enter a forum and write anything they want regardless of the truth.

I am not going to dignify the original post from "anonymous" with a response.  The first notion that we all should get regarding the originator of the original post is that he is, and remains, anonymous.  This is the first of mainy issues that discredit his statements.  

Moreover, I happen to know that this post comes from a former associate who was let go because he had committed some inappropriate acts that were not in alignment with our purposes and vision (I can tell by his broken english and improper grammer).  It is unfortunate that he feels compelled to lie and slander, but there is nothing we can or will do to stop him.  He discredits himself better then we can.  I wish him the best, and pray that he will focus on providing for his family, and I hope that he will find peace in his life.  

It is sad to see this man, who was once very powerful, deteriate under the stress that has been caused by his own lack of integrity and untruthfullness.  

At Abundant Life Academy we do great things for our students, their family's, and the community in general.  Because we do, we realize that we will always be attacked by those who are unstable and wounded.  Unfortunately, people like this person will always be around and we cant take time away from the greater picture and address their every move.  

We just have to trust that people like the originator of this post will come to their senses and learn to be truthful and have integrity.  We pray for people like this because they need our mercy and forgiveness.  

One final thing... we have nothing to hide, and are an open book for all who have a desire to investigate.  And, I refuse to make comments about people and places I have never seen or experienced.  May all people who visit this forum take the responsibilty to speak from personal experience and not pass along gossip or unsubstantiated slander.  Jesus, as my defender, I trust.

God bless,

Craig Rogers
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« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2004, 02:29:00 PM »
*If* you let the kids leave your school at will (I have no problem if you expell them for leaving without permission); *if* you let the kids send and receive mail and just check the envelopes for illicit drugs; *if* you encourage and allow the kids to make and receive phone calls--perhaps with a published schedule to protect classroom hours from interruptions----if you do all those things, I have no problem with you.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

No organization is perfect, but with sunshine, the parents and kids can fairly evaluate what you have to offer against their other options.
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« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2004, 05:01:00 PM »
Hello Josua?
I am reluctant to respond to you for fear of ?saying? something that would cast a poor light on those you seek to harm. Still, as I am aware of who you are, and the circumstances surrounding your attack, it seems appropriate that I reply.
Personally, I have been humbled and amazed at the Christ Like attitude Craig has shown you, even in the face of your many unjust attacks.  It put into sharp focus how different my response has too often been to a lady well known to folks on this site.  It has given me pause and caused me to repent of my most unChristlike attitude.   It is very difficult, but Iam trying to follow Craig?s example.
You are a  lucky man to have had friends as trusting and loving as the Rogers family. It is simply amazing to me that you can continue to behave this way; without regard for the heartfelt pain you cause your friends, and the destruction to the efforts of the students.
You remain in our prayers -
Nate?s Mom
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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2004, 05:19:00 PM »
that's right Karen and Craig cover your ass, blame it on a disgruntled employee....we have seen and heard this song and dance before.
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« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2004, 06:26:00 PM »
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I am not going to dignify the original post from "anonymous" with a response. The first notion that we all should get regarding the originator of the original post is that he is, and remains, anonymous. This is the first of mainy issues that discredit his statements.


Craig, sure sounds like a response to me. I guess you just dignified the original post from "anonymous."
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« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2004, 06:32:00 PM »
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"that's right Karen and Craig cover your ass, blame it on a disgruntled employee....we have seen and heard this song and dance before."


Ditto, this come-to-Jesus-meeting (for Karen Z) comes long after she was called to atone for her participation in the despictable, hateful I Hate Carey Club.  Talk about unchristianlike.  Hell, that whole crusade was nothing short of the Devil's work, himself.

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« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2004, 07:00:00 PM »
Karen, was it really necessary to reveal the identity of the so-called "disgruntled" poster?  No, it was not and if you think I'm wrong, well, maybe you ought to take a look back at the many many posts you personally erased written by yourself under the username Anon.  

CAN WE SAY HYPOCRITE, HERE?!!!
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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2004, 07:59:00 PM »
Okay, I have a personal prejudice here.  Whenever I hear someone talking like a used god salesman, I read the fine print and keep my hand on my wallet.

Most of the religious folks I've known who have done the best at following the Golden Rule have been the ones who spent the least time talking about it.
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« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2004, 08:07:00 PM »
This is Devlin Graves i lost my password so i am posting annon.

I read this annon (more likely a troll). Read the quote below:

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I am not going to dignify the original post from "anonymous" with a response. The first notion that we all should get regarding the originator of the original post is that he is, and remains, anonymous. This is the first of mainy issues that discredit his statements.



Craig, sure sounds like a response to me. I guess you just dignified the original post from "anonymous."  



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Now i am not for programs or sending kids off. But lets face the facts, there will be porgrams and if there is any at all i want them to be human and respect kids and their rights. ALA claims to be that. Craig Rodgers say a they are open to investigation, lets just go that. Lets give them the benifit of the doubt till we get results on them. I disagree with the Mexico part of the program totally. But if what they claim to be is true then they are well needed. And ALA is a step in the right direction (just need to get rid of the Mexico Facility). Craig says they use the place in Mexico for Missionary Work. If they want to do Missionary Work to the needy and less off then go to the Kentuky Bootheal, or a place not so well off in the USA (where US child proction laws will apply). Also they are making a mistake by using Karen i think. Watch my words she will bring WWASP down on ALA (we all know WWASP is sue happy). As they seem to be recruting a lot of WWASP kids. The bottom line is lets investigate them and see what we find.
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« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2004, 08:43:00 PM »
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"Okay, I have a personal prejudice here.  Whenever I hear someone talking like a used god salesman, I read the fine print and keep my hand on my wallet.



Most of the religious folks I've known who have done the best at following the Golden Rule have been the ones who spent the least time talking about it."


Yeah, that's pretty much been my experience, too. But this whole sordid affair has me wondering why any parent would send their kids thousands of miles from home just to get them in touch with God? Why not invite their children to explore their faith closer to home? Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.  A way to control their kids exposure to sex, drugs and rock 'n roll while at the same time getting them hooked on religion as an alternative lifestyle.  

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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2004, 12:14:00 AM »
Faith in humanity, not gods, ideologies, or programs.
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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2004, 10:22:00 AM »
Question:  Someone said that WWASP is sue happy...

Who, besides PURE (for defamation) is WWASP suing?
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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2004, 05:11:00 PM »
Deborah, faith in humanity?  How is that even possible in a society that does not object to trying kids as young as 13 years old as *adults* and sentencing them to life in prison?  

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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2004, 09:29:00 PM »
Deb, I also think it is inhumane to drug 4 million kids with Ritalin but yet expel kids for getting caught with a couple of tylenol at their government-run school.  Ok, maybe not inhumane but definitly bad policy.  Nevertheless, I appreciate what you are trying to say. Perhaps what we really need is to give kids the right to decide for themselves whether they want to be indoctrinated with the values and beliefs of their parents religion and/or guru of choice. That would pretty much solve the problem, though it's probably too late for some of these kids.
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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2004, 10:03:00 PM »
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"Question:  Someone said that WWASP is sue happy...



Who, besides PURE (for defamation) is WWASP suing?  "


No one!
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