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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2003, 07:18:00 AM »
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On 2003-12-18 15:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ginger, who took ISAC for a ride?  If you mean PURE, than why the comment that the PURE ppl are sincere?  Sorry, just not understanding your post and am asking for some clarification so I can see your P.O.V. better.



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I think the PURE ppl took ISAC for a ride. And yet, that doesn't prove to me that they're acting out of bad motives. I say it because I think it true and because I think it explains a whole lot.

So many people seem to be trying to prove bad intentions on the part of others. I don't think the industry is based on a lot of bad intentions. I think it's built on self delusion and the age-old quest for the holy higher purpose.

"Scoundrels are predictable, but you're a man of honor and that frightens me."--Robert Heinlein, Glory Road.

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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 07:39:00 AM »
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On 2003-12-18 20:12:00, Froderik13 wrote:

"I guess what anon was trying to say here Greg, is that how would "sincere" (PURE) ppl "take someone for a ride?" Simple as that...



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Oh, it happens all the time, Frod! Where to begin? Well, ever go to a left leaning sort of protest? I've been to a couple and I love those shindigs. There you'll find a whole lot of people working various agendas with consuming passion and fire. They're sincere, and dedicated. They think they've identified the bad guys who must be defeated and that makes them the good guys without having to think too much. Same holds true for the Dittoheads. They're sure they're right and justified in pursuing practically any means necessary to further their agenda because the other guy is the bad guy and they oppose them. So they must be good.

Somewhere therein lies the truth.

I think the PURE people honestly believe that they're the good guys rescuing kids from the bigger-than-life evil WWASP. The big tip off whas that month or two when anyone who questioned PURE was found guilty of being a WWASP supporter and sentenced to summary flaming. At the same time, the WWASPies really and truely buy into their belief that they're the nobel martyrs, suffering the slings and arrows...

Somewhere therein lies the truth.

But nobody's looking for the truth when you've got a guilty culprit to beat a confession out of.

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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2003, 09:07:00 AM »
It's cool that you're speaking your piece here, Antigen...but I wasn't really lookin'to jump into this Pure debate here, I just wanted to clarify anon's statement for Greg. Was just being a translator, so to speak...
So let them comment, I've got to get coffee and take a leak...have a nice one..  :smile:
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2003, 09:37:00 AM »
Ginger....."There ain't no good guys. There ain't no bad guys. There's only you and me and we just disagree"--Billy Dean


BILLY DEAN?  Shit ginger, make up your mind!!! First it was Jerry Garcia, then Dave Mason..now Billy Dean?????


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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2003, 09:42:00 AM »
:lol:
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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2003, 09:53:00 AM »
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On 2003-12-19 06:37:00, GregFL wrote:

"Ginger....."There ain't no good guys. There ain't no bad guys. There's only you and me and we just disagree"--Billy Dean





BILLY DEAN?  Shit ginger, make up your mind!!! First it was Jerry Garcia, then Dave Mason..now Billy Dean?????


I know, I know. But when I went looking to verify it, well there he was.

http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/B/Billy% ... lyrics.htm

Who the hell is Billy Dean, anyway????

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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2003, 10:00:00 AM »
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Who the hell is Billy Dean, anyway????




My question excactly. The song is older than his picture looks in your link.

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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
Ok, well this link attributes it to Jim Krueger.
http://www.billdeyoung.com/dm.htm

Maybe we'll get to the bottom of something here today.

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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2003, 02:36:00 PM »
Billy Dean is a country singer/musician from Quincy, FL.
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2003, 02:42:00 PM »
I still say, and you know better than to bet against me, DAVE MASON!!!!


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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2003, 02:44:00 PM »
AWW FUCK!  I must slink off in defeat....I found this on Dave mason's website....


 

Artist: Dave Mason

Buy Dave Mason's CD

We Just Disagree
Dave Mason
# 12 in 1977
Words and Music by Jim Krueger

 

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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2003, 03:24:00 PM »
Nah, nah, na-nah, nahhh!!!!  :razz:

I was right and you were wrong. Say, aren't you at work right now? I'm going to call your boss and rat you out for web surfing during working hours!  :em:

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Bozak / Scheff getting rich, no really....rich!
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2003, 10:35:00 PM »
Ginger,

What do you know of Bozak and Scheff are they in cahots together? Is Bozak a certified educatinal consultant? I thought ed cons did not have any payoffs?

Your knowlegde would be appreicated?
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2003, 11:23:00 PM »
I really don't know anything about them except what's posted here and what little I've seen in other forums and sites.

No one that I know of has denied Bozak's involvement in PURE, even though Carey said it. So I just assume it's probably true. Awhile back, someone was posting here under the name Lee Ann. She seems to know something. Here's a post from her and she does list her email address in her profile.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#25383

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