you people have turned an informative, and helpful site into a theatre for bashing, insulting, and being kids...i hope you all are happy, those involved in the documentary being made on Elan have encountered problems that relate to the non-sense and hopeless bantering and bull shit, that is now fornits Elan forum, 2 weeks ago, this was a team of people united for a cause, now its just a bunch of babies bickering back and forth.. you people need a UFC fighting cage so u all can go at eahcother without wasting web space and peoples time..Free speech doesnt mean that u can rant about uselless and offensive crap that does no-one anygood. FRAMERS INTENT, listen to some Frank Zappa...This Nazi guy should be pulled out of his bed in the middle of the night and beaten to a pulp, just for having a name like Nazi, and for all the bullshit that pours out of his antisemetic mouth....all this back and forth bullshit proves Elan right, that u are all stuck in the past and need therapy...however i belive u all (as have i ) gone through torment and abuse that require such anger, but people i mean really, grow the fuck up!