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Offline Oscar

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Wilderness program testimonies needed
« on: September 08, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »
Our Swedish partners are running dry on testimonies from people who have been forced into a wilderness program. If you stumble over a testimony somewhere please drop a link so it can be published on the blog Just another hike. You can also write one and put it as reply to this thread.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 09:12:41 AM »
Wilderness therapy is very beneficial to the kids, Oscar.  Many studies show that it is extremely effective in putting at-risk youths back on a good path.



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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 12:03:28 PM »
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 12:08:39 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Even a trolling jackass shouldn't make such a ridiculous clam as that Whooter.


I beg to differ with you Wayne,but a trolling jackass just did.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 01:51:12 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Even a trolling jackass shouldn't make such a ridiculous clam as that Whooter. Kids die in wilderness programs every year. A quick Google search proves that

http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... el=suggest

Wayne the Cafety article was written in 2006, lol.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 02:24:35 PM »
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 02:35:19 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
And?

There are articles on the page from all different years.

Psychologists maintain wilderness programs are safe and help thousands of troubled teens throughout the country every year.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 02:40:48 PM »
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 02:49:07 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
They're greedy douchecunts who send other people's kids there, not their own. Wilderness programs are abusive and kids die in them every year

Wilderness programs are safer than public schools, driving and drinking.  I think it's important you don't mislead people, lol.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2011, 11:30:28 AM »
Quote from: "Done That"
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
They're greedy douchecunts who send other people's kids there, not their own. Wilderness programs are abusive and kids die in them every year

Wilderness programs are safer than public schools, driving and drinking.  I think it's important you don't mislead people, lol.

Great point, Done That.  Ha,Ha,Ha



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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 04:40:12 AM »
Quote from: "Done That"
Wilderness programs are safer than public schools, driving and drinking.  I think it's important you don't mislead people, lol.

Aspen Achievement Academy closed after 23 years and 1,100 graduations. One kid died in 2007. The loss rate is 0,1%. A program like Catherine Freer has served just as many, but they have lost 3 teenagers.

How dangerous is public schools compared to the number of users?
How dangerous are public streets compared to the number of users?
How dangerous are alcohol consumption compared to the number of users?

Get the numbers of the table. What are the loss rates?
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 04:59:59 AM »
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University had a higher loss rate during the Seung-Hui Cho era.
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 12:08:13 PM »
Quote from: "Oscar"
Quote from: "Done That"
Wilderness programs are safer than public schools, driving and drinking.  I think it's important you don't mislead people, lol.
Aspen Achievement Academy closed after 23 years and 1,100 graduations. One kid died in 2007. The loss rate is 0,1%. A program like Catherine Freer has served just as many, but they have lost 3 teenagers.

How dangerous is public schools compared to the number of users?
How dangerous are public streets compared to the number of users?
How dangerous are alcohol consumption compared to the number of users?

Get the numbers of the table. What are the loss rates?
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Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University had a higher loss rate during the Seung-Hui Cho era.
It's not just the rates. It's also whether the deaths were foreseeable given the circumstances, and could have been prevented.

Many of the deaths in wilderness programs occur when staff fail to recognize the seriousness of an injury and/or physiological condition.

Why? Because they assume that the kid is faking or exaggerating. Staff are generally informed, by management and co-workers, that that's what these kids do, and part of their job is to push these kids beyond their comfort point. It's all part of the "therapy."

Staff are also subjected to indoctrination by programs, not just kids. You could say one of the job benefits is immersion in the "therapeutic milieu."  :twofinger:
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »
Children always fake it for attention from staff and peers.  The attention games are an epidemic amongst troubled teens in this country.  :roflmao:
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Re: Wilderness program testimonies needed
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 12:56:15 PM »
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Children always fake it for attention from staff and peers.  The attention games are an epidemic amongst troubled teens in this country.  :roflmao:
Speak for yourself. Personally, I think the attention games are even more epidemic amongst the population of trolls on the internet.  :D
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