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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2011, 09:50:52 PM »
Comments left for the above article, "Three teens in custody after escape, one still at large" (by Andy Paras; April 21, 2011; The Post and Courier), #s 1-20:


maxistheman · 8:50 AM on 4/21/2011
    Hide your kids. These creepers are on the prowl. Aahhhhhh!
    wwajsp · 9:44 AM on 4/21/2011
      You laugh, but my childrens' day care is practically across the street from Midland Parkway! I AM worried!!!
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    jma · 8:56 AM on 4/21/2011
      Escaped "about 6:12 pm? Couldn't they be more specific? Seriously, though hope they catch them soon. Bad things could happen with desperate troubled boys out there.
    rulenumberone · 9:06 AM on 4/21/2011
      We need more specific details for public safety. Why were no decent pictures available? Summerville needs a dialogue about this facility's security.
    rulenumberone · 9:09 AM on 4/21/2011
      How are we supposed to be on the lookout for these kids with no identifying details? Public safety should trump HIPAA or juvenile privacy.
    really stewed · 9:12 AM on 4/21/2011
      What is "normal clothing" for adolescent males with sexually aggressive behaviors, substance abuse problems and psychiatric, behavioral or conduct issues?

      Should we be packin heat?
      scdiver · 1:53 PM on 4/21/2011
        "Should we be packin heat?"

        Heck yeh! And think about the family, when you use it!
      maxistheman · 3:15 PM on 4/21/2011
        I wanna see you pack that heat mister. Shoot those sexual predators where the sun refuses to shine. WHere are the employees?
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      lou9 · 9:35 AM on 4/21/2011
        Why are we getting the report from the DC Department of Youth Services and not the behavioral center in Summerville? And now their representative cannot be reached for comment? Sounds like they are more interested in damage control than the welfare of these kids and the community.
        wwajsp · 9:46 AM on 4/21/2011
          I think you're right! This absolutely infuriates me! I live in that area!
        scdiver · 12:15 PM on 4/21/2011
          I want to know why we're housing 4 "disturbed" teens FROM D.C.!! We don't need any more of their d@mned problems!!
        realistic · 1:48 PM on 4/21/2011
          i will tell you why. as a former employee of this place whenever something negative happens memos are posted ordering staff to not talk to the press.
        findingmyself · 10:18 PM on 4/21/2011
          realistic: I figured you must've been a current or former employee, your experiences mirror my own. And they don't have 4 DC kids, they have 9.
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        rulenumberone · 10:18 AM on 4/21/2011
          What do they mean they think it might just be three? Is it three or four? We live in the immediate vicinity and we demand some forthcoming answers NOW. They need to find a representative to give out some details. Is one still on the loose or not? And I agree that we need information from LOCAL law enforcement rather than getting the scoop from DC. No acceptable in any way.
          lil' dave · 12:04 PM on 4/21/2011
            Somebody asleep at the wheel, like air traffic control!
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          mr. macky · 11:08 AM on 4/21/2011
            i bet y'all didn't know about this facility now did you?

            Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health
            225 Midland Parkway
            Summerville, SC 29485

            it's been there awhile. Right near Summerville Medical Center and all those wonderful upper middle class subdivisions in the Oakbrook area.

            They house teen males who are sexually aggressive i.e. sexual predators.

            nice huh?
            buzzinlikealdrin · 1:49 PM on 4/21/2011
              Is this Summerville High?
            chs2945 · 7:47 PM on 4/21/2011
              Has it changed? I know in the past it was 2 seperate programs. One was all male, sex offenders. The other was mixed-gender behavioral unit.
            findingmyself · 10:21 PM on 4/21/2011
              chs2945: the all male sex offender program is still the same. the other unit is still general behavior, but is also all male, not mixed gender.
            chs2945 · 11:56 PM on 4/21/2011
              Ah. Wasn't sure if they changed it.
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            Comments: "Three teens in custody after escape, one still...
            « Reply #16 on: August 18, 2011, 09:56:53 PM »
            Comments left for the above article, "Three teens in custody after escape, one still at large" (by Andy Paras; April 21, 2011; The Post and Courier), #s 21-40:


            lil' dave · 12:02 PM on 4/21/2011
              This The Post & Courier. A thought provacative paper. Leaves you guessing and wondering. They leave out detailed information on purpose. It makes us think.
              What good is Journalism if you don't get the whole story.
            my2centsworth · 12:03 PM on 4/21/2011
              Poor quality photographs of these 'teens' isn't acceptable. Because they are documented as behaviorally challenged, sexual abusers, and violent behavior tendencies, they should have current photos... front, back, sides, and keep them current each time they get a haircut, weave, dental work, etc... THis is ridiculous!!!!
            kaj · 12:32 PM on 4/21/2011
              Because the media isn't required to give you all the facts-or any facts for that matter. It doesn't matter what they look like because anybody could be a danger to society. Law enforcement obviously does their job, or else they wouldn't have apprehended 3 of them. Let them do their jobs. There's nothing you can do about it even if there were pictures of this person. Stop being so judgemental. Maybe you should take a good look at yourself. Maybe you should worry more about this person being at large rather than what he looks like. Grow up people.
            realistic · 2:16 PM on 4/21/2011
              this place has been getting kids from many other states and has been for years. when they started getting these older kids in problems such as this arose and continues. what is even more astounding is that they get mere children aged 7, 9 perhaps even younger and they are mixed in with these street thugs, also kids with mental retardation, asperger's. i have never worked in a facility that mixed populations and ages such as this one. additionally those with retardation and or asperger's cannot possible be getting the quality of care that they deserve.

              another problem is the revolving door policy on employees. the firing rate is atrocious. long term employees fired often for trying to defend themselves from attacks by these big older kids. some staff have pressed charges but generally are discouraged from doing so. staff to client ratio is sometimes so low that it becomes dangerous to do one's job. just think of having 1 supervisor, 1 sr. team leader and 2 staff on different units in hi observation rooms, 1 or two staff (if it's a good night) on one unit and same for the other unit and one on a separate unit. now take into account 2 breaks, a lunch break. do you see the danger just waiting to happen? it is not possible to run a safe facility under these conditions, not for the residents nor for the staff.

              the working conditions are draconian. it is a dreadful place to work and no support for staff who loyally show up each day to do their job. the corporate powers that be just restored (due to a new hospital merger) holidays that had been stripped away previously. the only holidays observed were thanksgiving, christmas and new years.

              in any case this is not the first time kids have "escaped". it is even a more unbearable place for them. many times they are not allowed outside or have "room protocol". the kids are seriously over medicated. so much so that they have enuretic episodes where none existed previously, all do to over medicating.
              realistic · 2:23 PM on 4/21/2011
                addendum: the state needs to do a thorough review of this place, and do an unannounced visit on every shift. previous visits were announced in advance, and staff and kids worked like hell to get the place in a "respectable", a JCAHO accredited facility. or state standards. UNANNOUNCED, south carolina DSS. UNANNOUNCED.
              my3sons · 3:55 PM on 4/21/2011
                realistic

                can you contact me at
              http://www.facebook.com/people/Delonte- ... 0852807405

              I think it's a photo of our perp; read his attitudes and interests at the bottom of the page. I think this is the PerpMuggie.[/list]
                sometruthplease · 6:16 PM on 4/21/2011
                  That kid is from WASHINGTON COUNTY, GEORGIA, not WASHINGTON, DC....Harpo, for shame, for shame.
                doggone85 · 7:00 PM on 4/21/2011
                  Read his page. He may be worse than the one on the loose.
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                pirate42 · 6:05 PM on 4/21/2011
                  The NUT HUT has a kid with attempted murder charge... that place ewwwwwwwww can not watch a kid of that caliber..
                clickedin · 7:20 PM on 4/21/2011
                  The break is a serious issue but watch out, all of you advocating security over privacy concerns. Sure, its fine because it just "those people" who have "things wrong with them." Next it will be you because you refuse to go through a full-body scanner, text a racy joke, read the wrong websites, vote the wrong way.

                  A national news story is how Apple is tracking and storing everything you do on an iphone or ipad. Everything, including everywhere you take it, down to a few meters, forever. Think before you overreact.
                realistic · 7:34 PM on 4/21/2011
                  here is a little history on the facility at midland pkwy. first of all the link at
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_Solutions Joey Jacobs was part of new hope in jedburg. The new hope jedburg facility closed because of a death of a Virginia boy: http://articles.dailypress.com/2003-03- ... t-facility

                However they maintained a new hope facility on 225 midland pkwy. New hope was then purchased by ABS, alternative behavioral services. Which included the jedburg facility. ABS was subsequently bought by PSI, psychiatric solutions. Then everything went to hell. Then PSI was merged with

                Mr. Jacobs had left and started pinelands group home off main st. in Summerville .

                ABS then sold to psychiatric solutions. Which in turn was "merged with Universal Health Services. Who now operate the 225 midland pkwy. Facilty. The whole front office corporate staff at midland pkwy. Needs to be replaced. From human resourses, to to all of them. Up to and including their managers.

                This is a poorly and inadequately run facility for vulnerable adolescents. It is not about helping these kids. It is about how much money can be generated.[/list]
                shagmaster76114 · 7:49 PM on 4/21/2011
                  Maybe if the staff had a union available......Never mind, the governor and her lackey politicos won't allow it.


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                « Reply #17 on: August 18, 2011, 10:33:21 PM »
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                  realistic · 9:02 PM on 4/21/2011
                    health care staff needs unions. i support them because they support their members. that is the shame of south carolina. as an aside i am glad that the boeing facility in n. charleston is at risk due to the controvery re. union vs. non. pro union. get a grip sc, hope you lose to the boeing plant due to your persistence in providing lower wages to employees. right to work. no right for rights.
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                  chs2945 · 7:58 PM on 4/21/2011
                    - max- .."I have never heard of it.." "..barely any advertising.."
                    Do you need to hear about it? Advertising? It's part of the DJJ / Family Services dept. No need to be in the Sunday coupon section.
                    It's not uncommon for management at any orginazation to put the "hush" on employees in such cases. Not fair to pin-point this place now.
                    Realistic- I agree with many of your points. Some, not so much. Also, as a former employee(20 yrs ago) I'm very aware of who this place houses. Maybe things have changed since I was there but it wasn't quite the "dark hole" you describe. It wasn't "fun" by any means though. I think it mirrors the DSS, DJJ, etc system. Too much bureacratic BS to do the kids any good.
                    I remember a lot of good people working there trying to make a difference. (others? well...)
                    I also remember some good kids who had problems. No excuses for bad decisions but remember, most of the patients here are under-age and were set on a course of violence, sex offenses and crime by family members. Case in point, the most mature and brightest kid I recall was there for murdering his uncle for molesting a family member , and other issues.
                    Ok, so I'm rambling. Sounds like the biggest issue with many is that this place actually existed right here. Live and learn huh?
                    rulenumberone · 11:16 PM on 4/21/2011
                      No, it's not a government operation. It's a for profit mental health facility. And no hospital allows employees to discuss patients in the media at all. But I do expect the administration not to clam up when a dangerous person is on the losse because of lapses in their system.
                    chs2945 · 11:52 PM on 4/21/2011
                      You're correct. I didn't mean to imply it was gov't owned or part of DJJ. But it handles kids in that system.
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                        realistic · 9:19 PM on 4/21/2011
                          All staff in the health care businesses needs to unionize. As do factory workers. As an aside I am glad that the n. Charleston boeing factory is under scrutiny. I hope the union wins. Sc has screwed her employees for decades. No rights, fire at will. No. south carolina is pro business, anti-employee. Ask yourself: why does someone with a master's degree get a job at a place like 225 midland pkwy. At 10.00 bucks and hour or less? Is this what you went to college for?
                          chs2945 · 9:43 PM on 4/21/2011
                            Off the real subject of the article but; you can only ask the person themselves. Maybe they truely want to make a difference and work their way up. Wow, sounds funny; making a difference, working your way up.... but this is 2011. Too many have lost those values. But anyway, we both know that the Social Services field doesn't pay, in SC or anywhere, unless you have a PhD. (I also think we both know that some of those PhD's are simply collecting a check)
                            If someone feels that the $10/hr job is the only option I'd say that has more to do with the individual and the job market rather than any union/corporate climate.
                          findingmyself · 10:24 PM on 4/21/2011
                            For one thing, only the therapists have to have a masters. Not sure how much they make though. Direct care staff barely have to even have a bachelor's.
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                          maxistheman · 10:55 PM on 4/21/2011
                            Creepo. The movie. This place is an unsettling piece of human kind. A nasty undercover operation all in the name of profit and not for the idea of helping the future of America. Disgusting. SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN!
                            rulenumberone ·
                              I don't think so. And where do you propose to treat or at least contain these people? On the streets? I don't think so. We need MORE facilities, not less. But this particular facility is troubling me with the stonewalling.
                            maxistheman · 11:14 PM on 4/21/2011
                              U answered your question. Good work. This place sux!
                            chs2945 · 11:48 PM on 4/21/2011
                              max, with all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. That's not an insult or put-down since your earlier comments clearly demonstrate such. So how do you become an expert to make such absolute comments? You know nothing about the facility yet now you have the answer.
                              Well done!
                            maxistheman · 10:14 AM on 4/22/2011
                              I have the answer cheez2945. You're a douche and so is your dog.
                            chs2945 · 12:51 PM on 4/22/2011
                              Ah. civil discourse. Excellent. Recess is over.
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                            Teen escapee remains at large
                            « Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 10:31:43 PM »
                            The Post and Courier
                            Teen escapee remains at large
                            4 youths fled from Summerville behavioral treatment facility; 3 were later caught

                            BY DAVID MACDOUGALL, ANDY PARAS
                            aparas@postandcourier.com macdougd@postandcourier.com

                            Originally published 12:00 a.m., April 22, 2011
                            Updated 08:08 a.m., April 22, 2011


                            SUMMERVILLE — Authorities this morning say they still are searching for the last of four Washington, D.C., teens who escaped from a behavioral health facility Wednesday night.

                            Four teens, ranging in age from 17 to 19, and all of them with a history of violence, escaped from Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health on Midland Parkway about 6:15 p.m. Wednesday, according to officials from the District of Columbia's Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services.

                            Dorchester County sheriff's deputies caught three of them on Dorchester Road near Appian Way about 9:30 a.m. Thursday, sheriff's Maj. John Garrison said. They were returned to the behavioral health center, Garrison said.

                            The fourth teen, 19-year-old Delonte Parker, is still at large and is the object of a multi-state search. Parker is described as a black male, 6 feet 2 inches tall and 170 pounds.

                            A staff member for a District of Columbia councilman said that the teen who was still on the loose had been committed for an attempted murder charge.

                            The behavioral center is in the Summerville Police Department's jurisdiction. Police Sgt. Cassandra Williams would not say how the teens escaped from the facility. Police radio traffic said they scaled a fence in the rear of the facility.

                            Williams said photos of the teen were not available because they were of poor quality.

                            Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health is operated by the Palmetto Behavioral Health System, a mental health provider that also has facilities in Florence and North Charleston. Palmetto Behavioral Health System is owned by Universal Health Services, a Fortune 500 health management company with facilities throughout the country.

                            Palmetto officials would not discuss the situation, but Stacey Lindbergh, director of business development and community relations, released the following statement:

                            "The management and staff of Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health are committed to providing the best possible treatment to its patients and takes their safety and well-being very seriously. Due to strict patient confidentiality and privacy laws the facility is precluded from giving any further information."

                            On its website, Palmetto describes its Summerville treatment center as a 60-bed, secure placement facility that offers residential treatment programs for adolescent males with sexually aggressive behaviors, substance abuse problems and psychiatric, behavioral or conduct issues.

                            The center serves as an out-of-state placement facility for the District of Columbia's Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services, according to a statement released by the district. Palmetto contracts with the district as a service provider of residential treatment.

                            "The district's confidentiality laws prohibit DYRS from commenting further regarding the youth involved and this incident," the statement said.

                            Asked for a photograph of the teen who was still at large, Reggie Sanders, a spokesman for the district, said confidentiality regulations prohibit him from discussing the individuals or releasing a photograph.
                             

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                            « Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 10:43:18 PM »
                            Comments left for the above article, "Teen escapee remains at large" (by David MacDougall, Andy Paras; April 22, 2011; The Post and Courier), #s 1-20:


                            harpo · 12:32 AM on 4/22/2011
                              This is political correctness at its worst. We have an escaped murderer, a young black male, and none of the news agencies has the guts to publish a photograph of him to enable the public to help law enforcement find him. The cover story varies from "the photo's too poor to publish" to "confidentiality regulations".

                              Please, Andy: spare us the bull. Suppress the PerpMuggie if you want to, but don't insult our intelligence like that.
                              rulenumberone · 8:08 AM on 4/22/2011
                                There is a credibility issue here. We need to delve further, and demand answers. The media have no photo to print, Harpo.
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                              gomione · 1:34 AM on 4/22/2011
                                This facility sounds like a cuckoo's nest and one has flown the coop, a dangerous one.
                                According to the poster realistic, these children are highly sedated. I wonder if they have a nurse Ratchet testing new drugs on them to see what works best.
                                Many private psychiatric centers back in the 50's and 60's were brain experimental laboratories for research.
                                realistic · 8:54 AM on 4/22/2011
                                  most kids in these facilities and foster care are over medicated throughout the united states. most take 5 to 6 different psychotropic drugs, many of which were/are not recommended for children under 18.

                                  chart after chart lists diagnoses of bipolar or adhd. it has been reported that a bipolar is over diagnosed. how is it possible that there are so many children with bipolar? in any case the kids are over medicated.

                                http://www.baxterresearch.net/resources ... ildren.pdf

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                                lou9 · 9:29 AM on 4/22/2011
                                  So what are you trying to say? That he escaped to get away from an abusive facility? That we should feel sorry for him? Well, what got him in that facility in the first place? His behavior, that's what. If sedation makes him less of a threat to society then so be it. Tell me how you feel when he or some other "overmedicated" teen grabs hold of you or one of your kids.
                                realistic · 10:15 AM on 4/22/2011
                                  no, i am not trying to elicit sympathy for a thug. not at all. this individual and his cohorts are street smart thugs. plain and simple. an 18 year old of his ilk will unlikely be turned into a law-abiding citizen despite over medicating nor therapy. he is facing a long life of crime, incarceration and more crime. but over medicating 8 year old kids is a real concern.

                                  many of these street smart kids "cheek" their meds. easy to do at med pass with out protocols in place to check ALL RESIDENTS.

                                  additionally an 18 yr. old belongs in jail. not a neighborhood filled with homes, families, elder care facilities etc.
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                                sid · 4:08 AM on 4/22/2011
                                  No PHOTO of the escaped criminal? His rights are protected but ours are not? What a joke,time has come for changes , criminals give up their rights when they commit a crime. All they should recieve is food and lodging,no gyms or tvs.
                                oversite · 4:11 AM on 4/22/2011
                                  Oh...I didn't know we had a gender-biased, for-profit brainwashing facility here in the area. I guess the more pleasant setting would yield more varied results for any continued experimentation straight out of the USAF. And what a perfect cover.
                                  lou9 · 9:31 AM on 4/22/2011
                                    His behavior put him in there. If brainwashing makes him no longer a menace to society then so be it.
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                                  unojack · 5:16 AM on 4/22/2011
                                    "The management and staff of Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health are committed to providing the best possible treatment to its patients and takes their safety and well-being very seriously.

                                    Ms. Lindbergh, since this and all other social programs operate on my dime, could you at least give some mention of your committment to PUBLIC SAFETY?
                                    Prisoners serving time for such serious charges belong in secure facilities, not in neighborhood settings. Why do we house non violent inmates in prisons, and attempted murderers in neighborhood "treatment" facilities? WAKE UP AMERICA!
                                    rulenumberone · 8:06 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      It's not operating on your dime. It's a private for profit facility. But I otherwise agree. We need a serious dialogue about this facility, if it chooses not to be a good neighbor.
                                    justsayingjustsaying · 8:59 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      rulenumberone wrote: "It's not operating on your dime. It's a private for profit facility."

                                      Hey rule....do you think these young men have private insurance? This is operated on our dime. The facility gets public funds for each patient that doesn't have insurance....which is probably most if not all of them. Yes, as always we are the lucky ones to bankroll their stay here.

                                      And, on top of that....the reason these young men are here is probably because it is a private facility so they take people from out of state....that is probably why they are here instead of Washington
                                    chas4life · 11:13 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      palmetto is a private facility, but are getting paid by District to house these criminals alongside non-criminals who are there for mental health issues. Very dangerous situation.
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                                    sand lapper · 5:58 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      "The fourth teen, 19-year-old Delonte Parker, is still at large and is the object of a multi-state search. Parker is described as a black male, 6 feet 2 inches tall and 170 pounds."

                                      Wow that makes it easier now doesn't it? Ummm what about the other three?
                                    sand lapper · 5:59 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      Phugg it....run 'em all through the chummonator. I'm feeling saucy today.
                                    helen42 · 6:20 AM on 4/22/2011
                                      19 is a legal adult. What was this adult criminal doing in a youth facility?
                                      realistic · 8:40 AM on 4/22/2011
                                        and why do they put 8 year olds in the same facility? a few years back this facility would release residents upon reaching 18 or when their medicaid ran out, or whichever came first.
                                      scnative26 · 2:41 PM on 4/22/2011
                                        Depending on when the offense was committed. If it was done when he was 16 or younger he could be sentenced as a juvenile and place in a juevenile facility until the age of 21 and I have even seen some cases where they were sentenced until the age of 25 depending on the severity of the crime.
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                                      migraine · 6:29 AM on 4/22/2011
                                        Well I don't know about the summer ville center but I was a.. shall we say "Guest" at the north Charleston Palmetto Behavioral Health center for 7 days

                                        It was set up like a Prison, with chain fencing on the windows , two people to a room , no beds more like a bench with a built in hard pad.

                                        If you where good they would let you go to the lunchroom to eat and once a day let you go out side ..there where no walls but it did have a big ditch on one side and the Ashley river on the other .

                                        No one there tried to attack me or any one ells most had depression or like me Bi polar disorder .

                                        I was there for 7 days ...but it was not a place I would want to go back to.

                                        It was kept clean though. But It was sure not what I would call a hospital .
                                        ironhorse · 6:31 AM on 4/22/2011
                                          Did you jump the fence as well?
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                                          harpo · 8:29 AM on 4/22/2011
                                            So you were in there for spelling offenses, then?
                                          maxistheman · 10:12 AM on 4/22/2011
                                            The All-American hell hole. Kids are forced to get better through beatings, pills, and lost memories of childhood.
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                                          coldbeer · 6:36 AM on 4/22/2011
                                            The obvious lack of cooperation from the Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health is appalling. The safety of the general, law abiding public, is at risk and they want to play hush hush. The facility should be shut down.

                                            Convicted murders should be put to death. End of story. The whole mentally insane thing should not matter. If you show the capability to take an innocent life, you should no longer be part of society.

                                            The facts in the situation need to be brought to light so that the public can protect itself. The Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health facility obviously doesn't care about our protection.
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                                            starcar · 7:34 AM on 4/22/2011
                                              Shoot Delonte on sight...problem solved.
                                            rulenumberone · 8:04 AM on 4/22/2011
                                              HIPAA regulations do preclude a treatment facility from divulging information about the treatment of patients. But this young man has negated those rights by becoming the focus of a public safety issue in the greater community. He chose to make himself news. The community's right for i nformation about a possible threat should now trump his own rights, as he chose. This stonewalling by this for profit holding facility is insensitive to the community. There should be consequences. I hope for the facility, and not Summerville.
                                            oldglory · 8:08 AM on 4/22/2011
                                              You all seem about as knowledgable as the reporters' sources. We do seem to have many who are able to read, but they fail to comprehend.

                                              Reporters, are you going to pursue the confidentiality laws excuses, or is that a correct fact from both Washington DC and SC?
                                              oldglory · 8:09 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                rulenumberone, I posted this before reading your comments. You do sound knowledgable.
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                                              gcrebel · 8:33 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                The simple reason Palmetto does not want to talk about this incident is because they don't want to disclose how badly they screwed up in letting these dangerour youths get away in the first place. No picture? Please, I am sure DC and local law enforcement have pictures of Delonte Parker that have enough quality to distribute. This man, not youth, was there because he committed a VIOLENT crime. This 19 year old, 6'2", 170 pound is NOT a youth. He is a man. Even by this age, he is a man, which means he is an escaped criminal, not a troubled youth. Using an FOI in this case to obtain more information would seem appropriate in this case.
                                              realistic · 8:36 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                one thing is for sure, this breach will result in firings. the fencing surrounding the facility is privacy fencing. no barbed or razor wire. a young, strong teen can easily scale said fence and take off through the back wooded area.

                                                it is ludicrous that this population is allowed to wear street clothes. they should be in scrubs all the time. currently scrubs are only used when, well hmmm, when something like "elopement" occurs, (their terminology for "runners". then probably room protocol for a period of time then back to street clothes and business as usual.
                                                lou9 · 9:34 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                  They need to put shock collars on them.
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                                                harpo · 8:38 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                  See, we can't actually target him because there's no photo on file, the photo's not very good (darned daguerrotypes!), or political correctness prohibits publishing photos of young black males who have violently murdered others. White young male photos are OK to publish.

                                                  I think it's the last reason here .. and the Post & Courier plays their little game with balancing the photos in an effort to portray the crime statistics in a more slanted vein. For now, there seem to be some very embarrassed people at that facility .. and some embarrassed cops .. and nobody wants to let go of a decent description of "Day Long Tay".
                                                  chas4life · 11:09 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                    It's true. the pictures that the admissions office take are horrible.
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                                                  lou9 · 9:25 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                    First, we had to learn about these teens escaping from the District of Columbia's department of Youth Services.
                                                    Second, Palmetto Behavioral Services has no comment.
                                                    Third, they don't know if 3 or 4 youths escaped.
                                                    Fourth, three are caught some 15 hours later by the Sheriffs deputies. Not sure if one is still at large.
                                                    Fifth, one is still at large, and Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health stil is not talking.
                                                    This facility houses teens with violent tendencies?
                                                    They should be investigated immediately. What's going to happen if this teenager hurts someone or gets shot by someone? Will you be talking then, Palmetto?
                                                  cover2 · 9:27 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                    Doesn't Obammy have enough money to fund this program in the D.C. Metro area? It's bad enough we have to defend ourselves against the wackos from here let lone an out of towner. The P&C won't post his photo until he kills someone. Lest give us citizens a fair chance of survival. Just like the gentleman last week who had to defend himself against these same type of Thugs who invaded his home week.
                                                    haynes · 11:30 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                      My guess is that this care has been taken out of federal/state control and privatized because "we" don't want the government to take care of sick people. So the care goes to the lowest bidder. And because "we" here in SC are generally under-paid compared to most of the country, we cost less.
                                                    geecheeboi84 · 1:54 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                      And what "type of thug" might that be, cover2? Just for clarification purposes...
                                                    harpo · 5:40 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                      Here, I'll get that:

                                                      A HALIM.

                                                      High
                                                      Aggression/
                                                      Low
                                                      Intelligence, Morals

                                                      A thug with the above combination of character traits which make them the least productive and most dangerous specimens of the human race.
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                                                    maxistheman · 10:10 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                      Freedom of Information Act anyone.

                                                      We want picture, answers, and info about these kids.
                                                    sand lapper · 10:18 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                      LOL@ Harpo....spelling offenses...yep the grammar police I employ run your tongue and hands through the chummonator if you can't write or speak correctly.


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                                                    maxistheman · 10:31 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                      I had a visit to Palmetto and I saw these kids walking like zombies inside the building. They were moping around the place with their head down and crying. There were nurses chasing them around with needles and a ruler. Anytime they would try and run, the doctors would yell and the patient would turn around in a medicated slumber and say yes sir or mam. They were then banished to their plywood beds and asked to stay there until dinner. Dinner consisted of a cocktail of pills and water. After dinner, they were allowed outside for 3 minutes and then corralled back into the building like sheep. They were then told about all of the bad things they have done and were later forced to take their daily minute and a half shower. When it came for bedtime at 7:30pm. They screamed out Lights Out to the patients and then threw some horse pills into their bunks.

                                                      Just weird stuff all around.
                                                      sky · 10:49 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                        Obviously at least 4 of the 'patients' were not in a zombie-like condition or they wouldn't have been able to escape. And somehow I don't believe a word of your post. Are you trying to tell us that you visited Palmetto for an entire day/night and you were allowed to observe all of the patients there? Doubt it. After reading some of your other posts, I think it is more likely a figment of your imagination or you were a patient there yourself.
                                                      rulenumberone · 10:53 AM on 4/22/201
                                                        I agree. Your post is incredible, Better work on your details in writing fiction.
                                                      scnative26 · 12:42 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        So if you hung out in the lobby?, (which is not allowed after visiting hours) how did you see them get put to bed? How do you know they were given pills before bed? This is a "secure" facility a term they must take lightly but never the less they would not allow you to "hangout" in the lobby ALL day and observe. That is just nonsense.
                                                      chs2945 · 1:01 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        maxistheman
                                                        3:21 PM on 4/21/2011
                                                        "I have never heard of this place.."
                                                        Wow. That's a busy 19 hrs. Finding out about this facility and then being allowed to visit during all this chaos. Considering none of us normal folk can get access without good reason that's some impressive research and reporting.
                                                      chs2945 · 1:05 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        scnative- you're feeding the insanity :)
                                                        On serious note; I do recall this being a very secure facility (who knows now) The issue for me isn't about "scaling a fence" but being outside alone. Every door is(was) secured with no patients moving from one area/building to another w/o staff.
                                                      sissylala · 1:31 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        why would the lights be on @ 7:30pm.... It's daylight savings time..plenty of natural light. What movie did you steal this from?
                                                      maxistheman · 2:42 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        I stole it from some Charlie Sheen movie but I can just imagine this is what goes on there. I love you guys. Hahaha LOL
                                                      harpo · 5:43 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                        Poorly written bullsh!t ..
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                                                      sky · 10:43 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                        The unmitigated gall of Ms Lindbergh stating that they take the safety and health of their 'patients' very seriously! What about the safety and health of the surrounding community when they allow one of their felons to escape?! If this thug harms someone, I certainly hope Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health is held responsible right beside Delonte Parker. The community needs to rise up now to either drive this 'facility' out of the area or at least ensure that it is maximum security.-- Not to mention that a 19 year old with a murder (or attempted murder) conviction should be in the penitentiary.
                                                        rulenumberone · 10:55 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                          I agree. The facility is being VERY insensitive to the needs of the community. We have a right to expect a safe town, but it cannot be so if we don't know what this attempted murderer looks like. This is very poor public relations. We have tolerated this facility for a number of years, but that tide may turn with this incident.
                                                        maxistheman · 11:01 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                          She must have an amazing gall bladder.
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                                                        rulenumberone · 11:01 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                          maxistheman · 11:04 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                            I am very displeasured right now. I hope they give me some free night stay coupons when I release my anger on them.
                                                          chas4life · 11:06 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                            Yes!!! Both of these facilities house dangerous criminals in the same units as mental health patients. It is a DANGERoUS situation with many innocent patients and staff injured.
                                                          harpo · 5:44 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                            Thank you for the EMail address.
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                                                          maxistheman · 11:09 AM on 4/22/2011
                                                            On a side note.

                                                            Did anyone see about the Kornahrens guy on the homepage. He's been doing beastiality fro years now and he's been robbing people. What a sick life he is leading. Leave them animals alone. They don't want your greasy human love.
                                                            two sheds · 12:14 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                              Yeah, I saw that...David needs to be put away and never see the light of day again.
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                                                            two sheds · 12:14 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                              What scares me is that there is a 6'2" violent offender who is now off of his psychotropic meds (mood stabilizers, Haldol, etc) and is running free in the community and WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE in order to protect ourselves because of "patient confidentiality."

                                                              Look up the "Tarasoff Ruling of 1976," which basically states that when a psych patient is an immediate threat to an individual or a community, the physician has an obligation to warn the people who are threatened. This would include releasing a photo of the suspect so that the community at large can be on alert if he is seen.
                                                            maxistheman · 1:08 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                              GIve us pics! Give us pics! Give us pics! Delonte is going down. Hopefully he is not going down on some innocent man.


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                                                              rulenumberone · 10:33 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                Please go away. This is a serious issue.
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                                                              louie1994 · 1:21 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                This is not the first time one of the Patient have escaped itm happen all the time. About 7 months ago one of them attacked an old lady outside the denist office a cross the street. Ask the Summervillie Police. I would also say the the Patient that is on the run is a sex offender. A lot of the Patients there have sexually attacked kids from their home state and are tranfered to SC for treatment. YOU ARE NOT SAFE LIVING NEAR THERE
                                                              maxistheman · 2:43 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                This place is not secure.
                                                              8011 · 3:05 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                Delonte? Where-o-where do they continue come up with these names?
                                                              cover2 · 3:14 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                geecheeboi84 Please read from the P&C dated April 15, 2011. Hopefully this will answer your question. Thank you sir!!! Gadsden died from a single gunshot wound after police said the home- owner fired his handgun at him when he saw Gadsden coming down the stairs holding the homeowner's long gun and bag of ammunition. The homeowner is not facing charges because he had the right to protect his home under the Castle Doctrine, police said.
                                                              maxistheman · 4:26 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                cover2, what are you talking about? We may need to enroll you in the Palmetto Mental Health Facility.
                                                              harpo · 5:52 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                How hard is it to photograph a patient? What extraordinary skill is needed to operate a camera, really? If this facility can't be trusted to do a simple task such as photographing inmates, what exactly CAN we trust them to do?

                                                                If this kid is in there for attempted murder, there WILL be a mugshot of him somewhere on file ..

                                                                .. but this newspaper doesn't care enough to obtain and publish it for the benefit of the citizens of Summerville .. and all for POLITICAL REASONS. That's the Post & Courier for you.
                                                              getoverurselves · 7:11 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                Harpo- once again you're running your mouth about things you know very little about. Because this missing person is a psychiatric patient, there are privacy issues involved. What extraordinary skill is needed to realize that? Apparently it's a skill you lack, so let me explain. With the exception of mugshots, if a person does not want his/her picture taken, that is his/her right. You cannot force someone to get in front of a camera. In some states it is illegal to take a picture of a patient who is asleep/sedated/restrained if the person had previously refused the picture. You have a point about not being able to "trust" this facility, but the fact that you say it's because of their photography skills is bizarre. I'd say a good reason not to trust them is because several patients escaped.
                                                                I agree, there probably is a mugshot on file. Why don't you try and track it down for the P&C since it, as you said, "... doesn't care enough." Perhaps there are other issues at hand Harpo. Look at the big picture. In the mean time, I hope this guy is located soon and that no one is hurt.
                                                              two sheds · 8:48 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                Harpo is correct here. In most in-patient psychiatric facilities, photographs ARE taken of the patients and are placed in their files. This helps with patient identification, especially at designated medication administration times. As I stated earlier, per the Tarasoff ruling, when it comes to an individual's or a community's safety (as in this case), patient confidentiality goes out the window in favor of safety and his photo should be published so that the public can be on the lookout for him.

                                                                I have a feeling that this is going to end badly. He has been off of his antipsychotic/mood stabilizer meds for a few days now, so he's most likely slipping back down into psychosis. He's going to approach someone--a business or an individual--looking for basis sustenance and either a) get shot like the home-intruder last week, or b) go into a psychotic rage and harm or kill an innocent person who tries to stop him.
                                                              harpo · 10:10 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                getoverurselves: Your rueful condescension noted; your only valid point: patients get different treatment than prisoners. My points regarding the safety of society trumping privacy concerns remains valid .. and comments about this newspaper's agenda are also correct and have been echoed by many others herein.

                                                                The fact that a poor photograph was made by the staff shows that he didn't have a choice in the matter of whether or not his photo was taken. You didn't do very well on that last post.
                                                              getoverurselves · 10:37 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                I have worked for 27 years in mental health facilities in SC, NC and NY state. If I were to guess, about 1 out of every 20 patients refused to have their picture taken. It's gotten a lot better since we stopped using polaroids (imagine trying to convince someone in a psychotic state that you're not stealing their soul even though his/her image is appearing on a piece of paper). If the facility did have a picture, then by all means it should (must be) provided to the authorities. If they don't have a picture, then there HAS to be a picture of this kid somewhere. Mugshot, driver's license, school yearbook photo, an artist's rendering... For the safety of everyone, it should be published. Still hoping and praying he will be located, medicated and rehabilitated (or incarcerated). Hope the facility figures out what went wrong so something like this doesn't happen again.
                                                              harpo · 12:19 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                I also would rather read of his being found and brought back into treatment. I still lament the bare bones coverage of this escape, only because it could mean somebody totally innocent and undeserving might be harmed. I think many in the area are watching for him and suspecting any young black man even remotely fitting the sparse description.

                                                                With recent precedents being set regarding homeowners killing intruders and even those suspected of tampering with vehicles, this all could result in a tragedy. If we just had a photo or complete description, it might actually save a life.
                                                              cover2 · 6:42 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                harpo you are 100% correct. Way to go!!
                                                              oldglory · 8:17 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                Did I miss that this escapee was charged with murder and found guilty? I keep seeing comments that refer to him as a murderer. I do see that he was charged with -attempted- murder--a bit different than -actual- murder. I do know that many are unable to comprehend what they read and/or like to embellish what is reported in order to rant and rave and be seen as a hero.
                                                                sky · 10:24 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                  Old,
                                                                  In an earlier article it was stated that the escapee had been arrested for either murder or attempted murder. Personally, I wouldn't want someone who had been charged with attempted murder on the loose any more than one who had been charged for murder. Attempted only means that he tried to kill someone and was unsuccessful. This missing thug has a violent criminal history. I don't think anyone here has embellished the story; they simply read more than you do and have more information on the subject than you were able to glean from this short article.
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                                                                « Reply #23 on: September 16, 2011, 11:19:04 AM »
                                                                The Post and Courier
                                                                Teen behavioral facility lacks stringent security

                                                                BY ANDY PARAS, BO PETERSEN
                                                                bpetersen@postandcourier.com, aparas@postandcourier.com

                                                                Friday, April 22, 2011



                                                                Fence that surrounds Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health on Midland Parkway on Friday April 22. Wade Spees // The Post and Courier

                                                                SUMMERVILLE -- No real security is required at the children and adolescent treatment center where four teens with a history of criminal violence scaled the fence and ran away Wednesday.

                                                                And the center's staff made no timely effort to alert police or residents in surrounding neighborhoods. Police were still waiting Friday for a photograph to be supplied of the teen who remained on the loose.

                                                                Among other concerns raised by the escape from the Palmetto Behavioral Health treatment center in Summerville are whether: Older juvenile criminal offenders should be treated at an in-patient/out-patient center treating children.

                                                                A 19-year-old offender should have been treated at a children-and-adolescent center.

                                                                More regulation is needed over a health care industry that operates in some aspects without any direct state oversight.

                                                                A multi-state police search continued Friday for Delonte Parker, 19. He is described as a black male, about 6-foot-2 and 170 pounds. The three other runaways -- an 18-year-old and two 17-year-olds -- have been captured and returned to the center. They were committed to the center by District of Columbia courts under the auspices of the D.C. Department of Youth Rehabilitation Center. Authorities did not reveal what charges they faced in Washington.

                                                                District officials described them as having violent criminal histories, and a police source told The Washington Times that Parker is a serious offender.

                                                                An official in Washington told The Post and Courier the charge is attempted murder. Juvenile records are kept confidential. Parker was arrested in 2008 for fleeing a police officer, according to D.C. Superior Court records obtained by the Times, and was later found guilty of tampering with a monitoring device.

                                                                On its website, the center bills itself as offering a wide array of inpatient treatments geared to children and adolescents 6 to 17 years old.

                                                                Among disorders treated are sexual aggression, substance abuse and post-traumatic stress.

                                                                Authorities would not reveal what the four teens were being treated for at the center.

                                                                The compact campus consists of a main building, smaller buildings and open grounds that sit between a nursing home and an assisted living facility near Summerville Medical Center and residential neighborhoods along Midland Parkway. It's surrounded by a 6-foot-tall wooden fence with another 18 inches of lattice on top. The dormitories have steel doors.

                                                                No clients were outside Friday, but there are signs, including a volleyball net and a shelter, that they spend time outside.

                                                                When asked Friday about security in place at the center and whether it would be improved in the wake of the escape, a staffer would not comment and referred The Post and Courier to a news release issued Thursday. The release said the confidentiality and privacy laws precluded the center from giving more information.

                                                                Police were notified of the runaways an hour after they occurred at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday. Nearby neighbors were not notified.

                                                                Summerville police Sgt. Cassandra Williams said the incident isn't considered an escape in South Carolina because the behavioral center is a private facility, not a correctional facility. The three teens were returned to the center without any criminal charges filed against them, although they could face penalties from the Washington, D.C., authorities who committed them, she said.

                                                                "Obviously we've got a huge hole in the regulations here in South Carolina," said S.C. Rep. Chip Limehouse, R-Charleston. He called on the S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control to restrict the age and level of criminal offender allowed at that type of center, and to prohibit accepting out-of-state clients with criminal backgrounds. Or, he said, the Legislature would act on it within two weeks.

                                                                "A violent sexual predator has no business in one of these inpatient/outpatients facilities to start with," Limehouse said. "Why in the world are we taking violent sexual predators from out of state? That's farcical."

                                                                It operates under a DHEC license for children and adolescent treatment centers and is licensed for 60 beds.

                                                                The regulations for that kind of center restrict measures such as use of restraint or isolation and require the facility to have windows that can be opened for ventilation. The center is not required to report runaways, just hospitalizations and deaths.

                                                                "As far as who comes there, we don't have any authority over that. I don't know that anybody does," said DHEC spokesman Thom Berry.

                                                                In a news release, the D.C. youth center described the Palmetto center as a "secure placement facility." Asked what that entailed, Reggie Sanders, D.C. Human Services Department spokesman, said, "I think you would have to call the center and ask them that."

                                                                Residential centers across the country treat criminal offender juveniles as regular clients, as well as juveniles from foster care and private homes, said Steve Rublee, Medical University Institute of Psychiatry director.

                                                                Rublee ran a children and adolescent residential facility for seven years.

                                                                There is a range of how restrictive the individual facilities are, but "it's a pretty restrictive environment in total," he said. Clients routinely are admitted from out of state.

                                                                "They are kids who don't have an immediate crisis but have long-standing problems and need long-term care," he said. The facilities in general are capable of handling clients with various levels of security, depending on staff and facilities, he said.

                                                                Kari Sisson, American Association of Child Residential Centers national director, said clients "go AWOL all the time." She was unfamiliar with the Summerville center, which is not an association member.

                                                                "Based on (the runaways) histories, you'd think they would be placed in a facility that can meet their needs and the needs of the community," she said. "There are facilities that are more of a locked place that can treat children with these needs."


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                                                                nitrat · 10:29 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                  Did this place used to be known as New Hope Jedburg?
                                                                tnt · 11:31 PM on 4/22/2011
                                                                  Some one needs to man up. Everyone is passing the buck. Whom ever issued the license to operate this facility should have made sure of the age limit and what security measures were in place to protect the residents and community.
                                                                  unojack · 12:34 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                    DHEC is whom ever.
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                                                                  « Reply #25 on: September 16, 2011, 11:39:51 AM »
                                                                  On the Saturday following the escape of four teens, three days after the event, The Post and Courier published three articles and an opinion piece, starting with the following short article:

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                                                                  Saturday, April 23, 2011

                                                                  The S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control on Friday provided a partial history of inspections, complaints and violations at Palmetto Behavioral Health, but said details would require a Freedom of Information request and a manual document search.

                                                                  General inspections are carried out every two years, said Thom Berry, DHEC media relations director. The record for the Palmetto Behavioral Health center in Summerville for the last five years indicates:

                                                                    2007

                                                                      Inspection results: Six violations and one kitchen violation. The violations were corrected.

                                                                      One complaint, no violations cited.

                                                                    2009

                                                                      Inspection results: Three citations; corrections were made.

                                                                      One complaint, no violations cited.


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                                                                  Name withheld · 8:54 AM on 4/23/2011
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                                                                    unojack · 10:40 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                    http://www.scdhec.gov/administration/emt-dukes.htm

                                                                    At what level of incompetance must a DEHC licensing inspector be operating in order to fail to notice that violent adult escape risks are being held against their will in a lattice box in a residential neighborhood, along with non violent children nearly half their age?

                                                                    If these conditions are allowed by law and regulation, and I suspect they are since the escapees were shipped in from outside SC, then the situation becomes a matter of the dollar, and everyone involved must be held accountable for breach of the public trust as related to public safety.[/list]
                                                                    realistic · 1:35 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                      let us hope that dhec leaves no stone unturned and investigates with a magnifying glass. check charts, check medical records. talk to the residents housed there. talk to front line staff. get a true picture of this hell hole.
                                                                    sc29403 · 2:44 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                      What about their facility in Charleston, Palmetto Lowcountry Behavioral Health? Where is that record?
                                                                    Name withheld · 10:16 PM on 4/23/2011
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                                                                      4 escapees only had to scale fence
                                                                      « Reply #27 on: September 16, 2011, 11:55:07 AM »
                                                                      The Post and Courier
                                                                      4 escapees only had to scale fence

                                                                      BY ANDY PARAS, BO PETERSEN
                                                                      bpetersen@postandcourier.com aparas@postandcourier.com

                                                                      Saturday, April 23, 2011



                                                                      Four teens hopped the fence of the Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health facility and escaped Wednesday. One remains at large.
                                                                      Wade Spees // The Post and Courier


                                                                      SUMMERVILLE -- No real security is legally required at the children and adolescent treatment center where four teens with a history of criminal violence scaled the fence and ran away Wednesday.

                                                                      And the center's staff made no timely effort to alert police or residents in surrounding neighborhoods, authorities said. Police were still waiting Friday for a photograph to be supplied of the teen who remained on the loose.

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                                                                        Among other concerns raised by the escape from the Palmetto Behavioral Health treatment center in Summerville are whether:

                                                                        --Older juvenile criminal offenders should be treated at an inpatient/outpatient center treating children.

                                                                        --A 19-year-old offender should have been treated at a children-and-adolescent center.

                                                                        --More regulation is needed over a health care industry that operates in some aspects without any direct state oversight.

                                                                        A multi-state police search continued Friday for Delonte Parker, 19. He is described as a black male, about 6-feet-2 and 170 pounds. The three other runaways, an 18-year-old and two 17-year-olds, were captured Thursday and returned to the center.

                                                                        They were committed to the center by District of Columbia courts under the auspices of the D.C. Department of Youth Rehabilitation Center. Authorities did not reveal what charges they faced in Washington.

                                                                        District officials described the teens as having violent criminal histories, and a police source told The Washington Times that Parker is a serious offender. An official in Washington told The Post and Courier that he has been charged with attempted murder.

                                                                        Juvenile records are kept confidential. Parker was arrested in 2008 for fleeing a police officer, according to D.C. Superior Court records obtained by the Times, and was later found guilty of tampering with a monitoring device.

                                                                        On its website, the Summerville center bills itself as offering a wide array of inpatient treatments geared to children and adolescents 6 to 17 years old. Among disorders treated are sexual aggression, substance abuse and post- traumatic stress.

                                                                        Authorities would not reveal what the four teens were being treated for at the center.

                                                                        The compact campus consists of a main building, smaller buildings and open grounds that sit between a nursing home and an assisted- living facility near Summerville Medical Center and residential neighborhoods along Midland Parkway.

                                                                        It is surrounded by a 6-foot-tall wooden fence with another 18 inches of lattice on top. The dormitories have steel doors.

                                                                        No clients were outside Friday, but there are signs, including a volleyball net and a shelter, that they spend time outside.

                                                                        When asked Friday about security in place at the center and whether it would be improved in the wake of the escape, a staff member would not comment and referred The Post and Courier to a news release issued Thursday.

                                                                        The release said the confidentiality and privacy laws precluded the center from giving more information.

                                                                        Police were notified of the runaways an hour after they occurred at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday. Nearby neighbors were not notified.

                                                                        Summerville police Sgt. Cassandra Williams said the incident is not considered an escape in South Carolina because the behavioral center is a private facility, not a correctional facility.

                                                                        The three teens who were captured were returned to the center without any criminal charges filed against them, although they could face penalties from the Washington, D.C., authorities who committed them, she said.

                                                                        "Obviously we've got a huge hole in the regulations here in South Carolina," said S.C. Rep. Chip Limehouse, R-Charleston. He called on the S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control to restrict the age and level of criminal offender allowed at that type of center, and to prohibit accepting out-of-state clients with criminal backgrounds.

                                                                        Or, he said, the Legislature would act on it within two weeks.

                                                                        "A violent sexual predator has no business in one of these inpatient/outpatients facilities to start with," Limehouse said. "Why in the world are we taking violent sexual predators from out of state? That's farcical."

                                                                        The center operates under a DHEC license for children and adolescent treatment centers and is licensed for 60 beds.

                                                                        The regulations for that kind of center restrict measures such as use of restraint or isolation, and require the facility to have windows that can be opened for ventilation. The center is not required to report runaways, just hospitalizations and deaths.

                                                                        "As far as who comes there, we don't have any authority over that. I don't know that anybody does," said DHEC spokesman Thom Berry.

                                                                        In a news release, the D.C. youth center described the Palmetto center as a "secure placement facility." Asked what that entailed, Reggie Sanders, D.C. Human Services Department spokesman, said, "I think you would have to call the center and ask them that."

                                                                        Residential centers across the country treat criminal- offender juveniles as regular clients, as well as juveniles from foster care and private homes, said Steve Rublee, director of the Medical University Institute of Psychiatry. He ran a children and adolescent residential facility for seven years.

                                                                        There is a range of how restrictive the individual facilities are, but "it's a pretty restrictive environment in total," he said. Clients routinely are admitted from out of state.

                                                                        "They are kids who don't have an immediate crisis but have long-standing problems and need long-term care," he said. The facilities in general are capable of handling clients with various levels of security, depending on staff and facilities, he said.

                                                                        Kari Sisson, American Association of Child Residential Centers national director, said clients "go AWOL all the time." She was unfamiliar with the Summerville center, which is not an association member.

                                                                        "Based on (the runaways') histories, you'd think they would be placed in a facility that can meet their needs and the needs of the community," she said. "There are facilities that are more of a locked place that can treat children with these needs."


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                                                                        « Reply #28 on: September 16, 2011, 12:01:01 PM »
                                                                        Comments left for the above article, "4 escapees only had to scale fence" (by Andy Paras, Bo Petersen; April 23, 2011; The Post and Courier), #s 1-20:


                                                                        harpo · 1:14 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                          Chip makes good points .. now let's see what he can get going to get this fixed. I want nothing short of razor wire and guards .. just like they have at Lieber .. if they're going to keep hosting these out-of-state HALIMs.
                                                                        sid · 4:23 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                          The Police are still waiting for a photo as of Friday,the facility was slow on reporting the escape to the Police.
                                                                          I say the people incharge of this place should be arrested for putting the public in danger,and that a calss actionlaw suit is filed against the owners .
                                                                          tide2 · 6:31 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                            I would persecute those on that staff. They have easily proven that they have no care for the safety of the public at large.

                                                                            Bunch of bums they are.
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                                                                          tide2 · 6:29 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                            Limehouse himself is just as much a joke as this facility. Does he really think people out here don't know that idiots like him are the reason SC is so fooked up?

                                                                            In any event, not releasing a photo of this psycho when the community is at serious risk is unacceptable; law or no law.

                                                                            DHEC needs to move now and suspend Palmetto Behavioral Health's license to operate like NOW! .... State investigators (NOT THE LEGISLATURES) must do a fine tooth comb inspection of everything and everybody who works at this place of business. Look for criminal violations and slam dunk those who are engaged in such. No more Mister & Misses Nice Guy.

                                                                            I don't want excuses, I want heads to roll. People out here are sick and tired of our slack government that is full of losers and do nothings just looking for a paycheck and state retirement (at our expense). Government allowed this to happen. These people in government deserved to be FIRED.
                                                                          dick tater · 7:46 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                            I think the 'juvenile offenders' treated at facilities like this one should be constantly reminded that a high percentage of SC residents are armed and wouldn't hesitate to shoot them if threatened. Impress on them that they will be safer by remaining inside the fence and getting rehabilitated.
                                                                            wonderdog · 8:45 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                              Agree......lock and load!
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                                                                            beentook2 · 7:47 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                              Looks like Summerville has its own BP oil spill. If it took months to plug an oil well, what are the odds that "federal or state officials" are going to get excited about a pervert running the streets of Summerville.

                                                                              Perhaps the best option would be to sit and sit hard on the necks of local officials. These private companies come in an set up shop in an area because their exists little or no restrictions. They don't care about the community. They care about making money. Look at zoning regulations, look at business license regulations. If these characters can use loop holes to run a day care prison for violent offenders in your backyard, then find a loop hole to shut them down.
                                                                            jeff61 · 8:04 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                              Tell me any where in this article does it say these kids were from New York?? Read it for christ sake
                                                                            jeff61 · 8:08 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                              I see that post stating the kids were from New York has been deleted
                                                                              ironhorse · 8:12 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                The initial article of two days ago stated the 19 YO was from NY.
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                                                                              realistic · 8:09 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                i am glad this story is not going away and i hope the state rigorously and unrelentlessly investigates palmetto behavioral health. this has been a long time coming.

                                                                                one key mgmt. staff has already been fired. more house cleaning needs to be done starting at the top with ceo ms. tolley, exec. director ms. zimmerman, human resources at this facility etc. the place needs a thorough cleaning out.

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                                                                                findingmyself · 9:11 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                  My hope is that former (and maybe even current?) employees will step forward to the news and bring it out in the open that these kinds of issues are *not* new to the place, that a long list of shadiness led to this incident.
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                                                                                inlikeflynn · 8:30 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                  you would think that court-ordered mental commitment would require that patients be closely monitored.

                                                                                  let's not mince words..."Rehab or Treatment Center for Youthful Offenders" is just a fancy way of saying "Mental Institution For the Criminally Insane Under the Age of 21"

                                                                                  do we really want Young Hannibal Lector being farmed out to SC from states where they don't "feel comfortable" sentencing real jail for criminals 18-21? Farmed out to private centers that are more concerned abt automatic insurance/fed assist payments than the patients and the safety of the communities in which they reside?

                                                                                  srsly..what a dirty little secret!
                                                                                Name withheld · 8:57 AM on 4/23/2011
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                                                                                  beentook2 · 10:55 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                    Just to add a little more information to my earlier comments. The quaint little facility tucked back in the trees in sleepy Summerville, SC is just one tentacle of a bigger enterprise.

                                                                                    Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health  is part of Universal Health Services, Inc. of King of Prussia, Pa. According to Wikinvest, "Universal Health Services, Inc. (UHS) is the fifth largest for-profit hospital operator in America and the country's largest publicly-traded psychiatric and substance abuse facility operator. Increased competition in the hospital industry have pressured margins in the company's hospital business, but UHS has compensated for this with strong earnings in its behavioral health segment."

                                                                                    There are States,cities who house the worst of the worst criminals. Often these states are faced with enormous cost of "treating' such individuals. Then they discover that it is not only cheaper but less stressful if they "market" these individuals to companies to provide services. Since most if not all of these former patients/inmates are shipped out of state, the locals don't have to answer to any local accountablity. If anyone locally complains, they are told to contact the provider, such as UHS. If you ever have problems with a patient/inmate of UHS, they will take you to contact the State/city that sent them the patient/inmate.

                                                                                    Bottom line is that it would probably be better to have a meth lab in the neighborhood than a day care for the criminally insane.
                                                                                    just sayin' · 1:31 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                      President Eisenhower warned about the Mental Health Industrial Complex
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                                                                                    mp · 11:24 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                      Nineteen years old is not a kid. He had no business at this facility in the first place. Second, WTH you mean this place did not have to report escapes? Someone in DHEC needs their butt fired over that one. Once again, DHEC does it to the very people it is supposed to be working fo - the citizens of SC.
                                                                                    mp · 11:26 AM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                      Summerville needs to review this business' business license and application. If it is doing business not specifically disclosed or authorized, revoke the business license and shut them down.
                                                                                    psych guy · 12:03 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                      This DC kid thing could easily be construed as nothing more than a very questionable and seeminly unethical in many aspects scheme to fill beds and generate daily bed count and revenue. It has been a fiasco; good staff hurt, staff in fear, units trashed, patients intimidated, overwhelmed staff fired instead of the CEO, Tolley and COO, Turner, who have been known to refer to the DC kids as a "book of business." These are severe antisocial criminals for the most part and most often do not respond to poorly staffed and executed treatment programs. I would predict, however, that poor underpaid , under-trained staff will be fired rather than the money motivated managers who started this whole misquided thing a couple of years back and forced on very reluctant staff.
                                                                                    unojack · 12:25 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                      In case it's gone unnoticed, the P&C has slipped in an article under the heading of "partial inspection results released" in older posts. Page on down...you'll see it. The article relates directly to this issue as it identifies DHEC as the goverment agency responible for licensing and oversight in these storage facilities (as defined by their waaay less than stellar recidivism rates).


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                                                                                    « Reply #29 on: September 16, 2011, 12:07:31 PM »
                                                                                    Comments left for the above article, "4 escapees only had to scale fence" (by Andy Paras, Bo Petersen; April 23, 2011; The Post and Courier), #s 21-40:


                                                                                      realistic · 1:24 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                        uno - one would think the P & C would have a side bar or something linking that story to this one or vice versa.
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                                                                                      sc29403 · 12:52 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                        These Palmetto "hospitals" cut corners, break rules, coerce employees into unethical behaviors to keep their jobs, put direct care staff in danger, torment patients, swindle other agencies with lies. There is nothing "therapeutic" about them. The #1 priority at this "private" facility is $$$. Please don't put your child in any of their hospitals, they will be at risk at the hands of these other "patients" (i.e., criminals). As psych guy posted, "overwhelmed staff fired instead of the CEO Tolley and COO Turner" allows this to continue. If an employee attempts to break "the code of silence" about abuse, they are black balled and eventually fired under some flimsy pretense.
                                                                                        maxistheman · 10:16 AM on 4/25/2011
                                                                                          Oooo, black balls you say?
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                                                                                        jbt · 1:14 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                          I'm sure the residents in the area where these individuals from DC (or New York as previously reported ) were asked if they were against housing 19 year old "criminal juveniles" they all said," No, send all here and we'll be glad to have them in the neighborhood. " And to hear that this center does not have to report any one of these predators missing because they are not a "locked facility"and yet they house these individuals for so-called treatment beyond comprehension.This place needs to shut down now, all their out of state "residents" sent back to city that sent them here, and allow homeowners in the area have a voice in who will be allowed in their neighborhood.
                                                                                        realistic · 1:20 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                          as i posted in a previous escapee story, the dhec inspections are a joke because they are warned before the visit. that gives mgmt. time to instruct staff and residents to "clean up the facility". if you could see the conditions of the bathrooms, resident's bedrooms you would be appalled. if dhec wants to see the true condition then unannounced visits are a must.

                                                                                          it has just been heard from the grapevine that exec. director zimmerman has also been fired. don't know if info is accurate however.

                                                                                          this facility is a factory farm for dangerous unwanted kids. and it is all about money as sc29403 has posted.

                                                                                          psych guy is correct in his description of said facility. work conditions for front line staff are deplorable. the atmosphere for staff is in no way conducive to any type of therapeutic care. management makes sure of that.
                                                                                          sc29403 · 2:56 PM on 4/23/2011
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                                                                                          tomcatz · 5:58 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                            dhec is a joke!!!
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                                                                                          ridicula · 2:13 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                            This facility happens to be stting right next to a nusing home and a hospital as well as several other residential facilities and homes. It was extremely neglegent of Palmetto not to alert the neighbors that a violent criminal was on the loose and could have been hiding out in any of the buildings or vehicles. I am outraged!
                                                                                          barracho · 2:13 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                            Did they do anything after they escaped? No....These kids would be model citizens in North Charleston...don't get your panties in a wad.....Trivial junk.
                                                                                            sc29403 · 2:56 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              You don't mind paying for them? Although this is a private facility, once they transfer and become "residents" of SC our/your tax payer dollars are used to educate them and possibly more if they become wards of our courts. Then we pay for everything including their hospital bills at this "hospital".
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                                                                                            sc29403 · 2:49 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              "Partial Inspections History"..are these inspectors blind? There are so many violations everyday at these facilities in Summerville and Charleston!
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                                                                                            tomcatz · 5:59 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              Until the "social reformers" & school administrators cease to refer to these "punks" as children, this type of activity will continue. These, (multi-state police search continued Friday for Delonte Parker, 19. He is described as a black male, about 6-feet-2 and 170 pounds) "punks" are criminals and to place them in such an "institution" is Criminal!!!
                                                                                            willyt · 7:58 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              "...a wide array of inpatient treatments geared to children and adolescents 6 to 17 years old. Among disorders treated are sexual aggression, substance abuse and post- traumatic stress."

                                                                                              This seems like quite a wide range of treatments and ages. Looking on the Palmetto Summerville Behavioural Health web site, it only mentions 12-17, but that is still a challenge.
                                                                                              I really don't understand why a photo is not available from PSBH or the officials in Washington, D.C. Both are pointing in different directions for sources of information. I'm surprised that these individuals were sent to this facility from D.C. It also seems that a criminal, charged with intent to murder, should be in a secure facility. Something is wrong in the way this was handled from the beginning.
                                                                                              Hope they can get this character so everyone is safe.
                                                                                            realistic · 8:30 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              former residents: one who fantasized about killing a father as his young daughter used the restroom of a local park, so he could abuse the child.

                                                                                              one who tried to slash his father's throat.

                                                                                              one at age 11 or 12 who murdered a 3 year old by beating him with a baseball bat and dumped the child in a creek. the 3 yr. old child had tearing and lacerations around the anus and 4" into the rectum.

                                                                                              one who had sex with animals and cut his mother's tropical fish with sissors onto the carpet.

                                                                                              these pale in comparison of the current residents.
                                                                                            harpo · 9:49 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              So if a photo becomes available .. do we expect that the Post & Courier will publish it? Delonte Parker is black .. and the weekend staff is even more racially activist than the regular staff is. I'll keep an eye on Live5, CountOn2, WISTV, and Channel 4 for updates and bring 'em here if they get one.
                                                                                            tell it all · 11:31 PM on 4/23/2011
                                                                                              These post are not half of what's going on. They have more children than beds in the facility. They have children sleeping on the floors. The children have bad hygene problems because they don't give them any products to wash. It was so bad one child had crabs!! I totally agree with the people who actually know, they are not getting rid of the people who created this problem!
                                                                                            29483 · 12:23 AM on 4/24/2011
                                                                                              From what I'm hearing, the educational system there is deplorable. The curriculum consists of watching movies, doing origami, and coloring. Most of the residents can't read or write. I guess "Fun Friday" is everyday!!!

                                                                                              Some one needs to really go investigate.

                                                                                              Also I hear...the gym is a concrete slab with four walls around it..the recreational field is a dirt area with stumps and roots where the residents look for anything to use to cut themselves.

                                                                                              DHEC and any other investigative agencies need to go NOW...obviously from the comments posted, we see there is a big problem that needs to be solved.
                                                                                              katensc · 7:02 PM on 4/24/2011
                                                                                                DHEC can only operate under rules the legislature sets. Are the rules stringent enough? Apparently not, but only the legislature can change the rules.
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                                                                                                maxistheman · 10:14 AM on 4/25/2011
                                                                                                  My dog could get over that thing. What a sad excuse for security. Oh well, at least it's a good business opportunity for Palmetto Behavioral Health. Don't worry about our security. We will be fine. Keep on bringing dangerous adolscents our way. We'll fight em all off.


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