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« Reply #150 on: October 07, 2004, 07:11:00 PM »
Yes, I do know those things.
For those who don't, here are some good links.
http://www.ablechild.org/
http://www.adhdfraud.com/
http://www.parental-intelligence.com/au ... y2004.html
http://www.ritalindeath.com/
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/issues/is-siss.htm
http://www.wildestcolts.com/

A few good sites for alternative mental health:
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/ ... manual.htm
http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/De ... causes.htm
http://www.caer.com/

And this: A link to view online the latest excellent Panorama show by BBC - "Taken on Trust" detailing the problems with SSRI antidepressants in the UK - Paxil [Seroxat] in particular.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/progs ... latest.ram
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« Reply #151 on: October 14, 2004, 01:29:00 PM »
TONIGHT, October 14, 2004 @ 5pm Pacific Standard Time:  DANGERS OF
PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS - PART 5:

Topic:  ?Prozac Exposed ? Your Wonder Drug to Hell!?  
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« Reply #152 on: October 22, 2004, 10:22:00 PM »
http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/hsi/prozac/
Excerpts:
"A complicated web of money, emotion, science and regulation."

That's how a reporter for National Public Radio (NPR) described the recent hearing conducted by an FDA advisory panel, convened to examine the negative effects that antidepressant drugs have on children.

No comment was expected from the panel until summer. So it came as a surprise when the panel issued a statement last week recommending that warnings are needed immediately to elevate the level of concern for doctors who might prescribe antidepressants to treat young patients.

But any doctor who's not already concerned - who hasn't been aware, for instance, of the disturbing number of young people who have committed suicide while taking these drugs - simply hasn't been paying attention.

Advocates of SSRI use in children (and there are many) say that the number of suicides by users of the drugs are offset by the number of kids who would commit suicide without the drugs. But this argument only holds water if you completely ignore the natural alternatives to treating depression.

Prescribing drugs to address depression has become so common that the idea of giving SSRIs to kids makes perfect sense to doctors with pharmaceutical tunnel vision. Apparently, most of them never imagine that nutritional changes can often provide effective treatment for depression in young and old alike.

In the e-Alert "Omega Delta Blues" (10/28/02), I told you how those who experience mild to moderate depression often find relief with an increased intake of omega-3 fatty acids (in fish or fish oil supplements). And people who are depressed are often deficient in magnesium, which is found in whole grains, nuts and leafy green vegetables. Herbal supplements like valerian root, chamomile, black cohosh, and rosemary may also help manage depression. And the standout among the herbs for mild to moderate depression is, of course, St. John's wort, which is sometimes called the "natural Prozac" for its apparent ability to help manage the proper functioning of seratonin in the brain.

High levels of B vitamins have also been shown to relieve symptoms of depression. In addition to supplements, good dietary sources of vitamin B are: tuna, salmon, avocados, bananas, mangoes, potatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, poultry and meat. Note that stress (which often goes hand in hand with depression) is believed to deplete the body's store of B vitamins.

If you're the parent or grandparent of a child who's struggling with depression, I urge you to explore the dietary and supplement options before you choose to medicate with a powerful drug whose effects in children have been studied, but not completely revealed.  
 
Now imagine if instead of HRT they were studying, let's say, the herb black cohosh (a natural alternative to HRT), and had found, again and again, that it increased the risk of a specific type of cancer. You can be sure the medical establishment drums would be pounding loud and long with demands to ban the herb worldwide. Would any treatment that wasn't a pharmaceutical be tolerated like this? It's inconceivable.
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Remember Ephedra?
FDA claims 100 deaths....and it's banned.
SSRIs will get a 'black box label'.
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« Reply #153 on: November 22, 2004, 07:12:00 PM »
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/97/104189.htm
Excerpts:
Antidepressants May Cause Abnormal Bleeding
Increased Uterine, Gastrointestinal Bleeding Noted Among New Users

By Kelli Miller Stacy
WebMD Medical News  Reviewed By Brunilda  Nazario, MD on Monday, November 22, 2004
More From WebMD

FDA Orders Strict Antidepressant Warnings
Special Report: Is Your Child Depressed?
Sign Up for the Emotional Wellness Newsletter

Nov. 22, 2004 --
Most antidepressants affect serotonin. Some antidepressants, such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressants, including Paxil, Prozac, and Zoloft, affect this chemical more strongly than other antidepressants.

In addition to affecting mood, serotonin also plays a role in blood clotting. Previous studies have shown an association between the use of
SSRIs and abnormal bleeding, particularly excessive uterine bleeding and stomach and intestine bleeding. But the evidence has been considered inconclusive.

For the new study, Welmoed E. E. Meijer, PhD, and colleagues in The Netherlands examined 64,000 medical records of patients that had taken
antidepressants. Patients were considered "new" users if they had a prescription for at least a year but no history of prior antidepressant use.

There were 196 cases of abnormal bleeding. Nearly half were hospitalized for abnormal uterine bleeding. Stomach and intestinal bleeding accounted for 16%, brain hemorrhages accounted for 10%, and abnormal bleeding in joints, nose bleeds, and bleeding within the bladder,  accounted for almost one-fifth of bleeding requiring hospitalizations.

Those patients taking antidepressants with the strongest affect on serotonin had a 2.6-fold higher risk of abnormal bleeding compared with those taking antidepressants with the lowest effect. Antidepressants with an intermediate
effect nearly doubled the risk.

SSRI antidepressants with the greatest serotonin effect include Prozac, Zoloft, and Paxil. Anafranil, another type of antidepressant used to treat obsessive compulsive disorder, also has a strong effect. Antidepressants with an intermediate serotonin effect include Effexor and the SSRI antidepressant Celexa. Remeron, Serzone, Doxepin, and Wellbutrin have a low affect on serotonin.

If you are taking an antidepressant, talk with your health care provider to discuss the benefits and any risks of your medication. Do not stop taking your antidepressant without first talking to your health care provider.

SOURCES: Meijer, W. Archives of Internal Medicine, 2004; vo 164: pp 2367-2370. News release, JAMA.
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Western Ills Invade China
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/a ... 2003212098
Suicides among women in rural China on the rise
THE OBSERVER , Beijing
Monday, Nov 22, 2004,Page 5
The old peasant woman spoke in a hushed voice as her grandson cowered behind her back: "My daughter-in-law killed herself with rat poison. Nobody knows why. It was one of those things."

The scene, in a small, poor village in Anhui Province last week, is common in China, where suicide rates are almost as high as ignorance about depression.

For years, psychological disorders were ignored or treated as the product of decadent foreign societies, but a flood of studies has revealed that China has some of the biggest mental health problems in the world, particularly among rural women and urban school children.
[That's something that should be more closely researched. Think those two particular have anything in common???? Or, just coincidence?]

Last week the Beijing Suicide Research and Prevention Center reported that China had 22 suicides for every 100,000 people, almost 50 percent higher than the global average.

The rate in the countryside was three times higher than in urban centers, reflecting a growing gap between poor inland farms and rich coastal cities. With more men leaving villages to work as migrant laborers, women have less support in dealing with the pressures of motherhood, farming and moving out of their home villages to marry.

In rural areas, 30 women in every 100,000 take their own lives. More than half use PESTICIDES. Those that want REVEMGE ON THEIR COMMUNITIES THROW THEMSELVES DOWN THE VILLAGE WELL, polluting the water supply.

More women attempt suicide than men in every country in the world -- but only in China do they succeed more often. That is because rural doctors and nurses are not adequately trained or equipped to save them. More than 60 percent of suicide victims die after failed attempts to resuscitate them.

The social and financial impact is only starting to be understood. Last month researchers estimated the annual cost of depression at US$4 billion, the highest in the world after the US. The study was undertaken by Chinese health officials and the Social and Economic Burden of Depression Initiative -- an organization PARTLY FUNDED BY MULTINATIONAL FIRM   WYETH PHARMACEUTICALS, WHICH SEES CHINA AS A HUGE POTENTIAL MARKET for its anti-depressant drugs.

There are not likely to be many buyers among the 800 million rural population, more than a quarter of whom live on less than US$4 a day. The government has acknowledged that more than half the country's peasants cannot afford to visit a hospital, even with a physical illness or injury.
Mental health is less of a priority -- often a source of shame and harder to diagnose. Foreign researchers say 60 percent of farmers had never heard of the Chinese word for depression.

But in the cities there is a growing awareness of mental health issues, particularly among a "one-child" generation BROUGHT UP WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF SIBLINGS BUT UNDER EXTRA PRESSURE TO SATISFY EXPECTATIONS OF PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS. [Might take a look at that too, although its not profitable to identify and change unsustainable social policies... Just take the drugs and keep working.]

Nationwide, there has been an 80 percent rise in reports of emotional and behavioral problems, such as truancy and theft, among pupils, say
researchers at Beijing University. Most of the 30 to 50 million children affected are from families with absent parents.
[Uh, duh... so are drugs the answer to that social ill. Will the drug suddenly give them a sense of being loved and valued?]

"There is a change in patterns of social stress," said Michael Phillips, director of the Beijing Suicide Research and Prevention Center.

"There is more divorce, more villagers are leaving to work in the cities and there is more competition in school," he said.
[Wow, where have we seen this before?]

"Yet there has been a decrease in poverty, which should decrease depression and suicide. One seems to have cancelled out the gains of the other," he
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« Reply #154 on: November 23, 2004, 08:06:00 PM »
Drugged, post partum mom severs 11 month old daughters arms.

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/con ... 10094.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6561617/
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/new ... 796.htm?1c

Another case of a person on the WRONG drugs? Or, not monitored closely enough by her pdoc? Or, 'hey, now I feel better and have the energy to kill my daughter'?

When you read that CPS was called out because the woman was running down the street with her daughter biking behind her, you might wonder as I did.... What law did that violate? Rumor has it that she was running in her birthday suit.
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« Reply #155 on: November 25, 2004, 12:12:00 AM »
Risperdal, an antipsychotic, in large doses can make young children, boys and girls, develop lactating breasts.
Within the industry, among the sales force for these drugs, this phenomena is jokingly called "RisperTits".
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« Reply #156 on: November 25, 2004, 12:41:00 AM »
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/new ... 262034.htm

Posted on Wed, Nov. 24, 2004
Police: Mom hinted at plan to kill
By Nathaniel Jones
Star-Telegram Dallas Bureau
Excerpts:
PLANO - On Sunday night, Dena Schlosser referenced a Bible passage and told her husband, John, that she wanted to give her child to God, according to a police affidavit filed in a Collin County court.

John Schlosser, 35, told an investigator about what his wife said. The affidavit states: "He [John] did not appear to be alarmed by the comment or see it as sign that Mrs. Schlosser would harm their children."

Now, state Child Protective Services officials have temporary custody of the couple's two other children and have asked a judge to terminate parental rights, saying that John Schlosser failed to protect Margaret from her mother.

John Schlosser told police that his wife called him Monday and told him that she had cut off their daughter's arms, the affidavit states. Then as he drove home from Arlington, Schlosser called the Children's World Learning Center in Plano and told a friend employed there to go to the apartment and check on his wife. The employee called Dena Schlosser, then told a supervisor, who called 911.

An officer who responded to the call had to take a knife from Dena Schlosser's hand, the affidavit states. Police also took Bibles and a CPS letter from the apartment, the affidavit stated.

CPS officials said Dena Schlosser, a stay-at-home mother, is believed to have been suffering from postpartum depression. She is being held in the Collin County Jail.

CPS became involved and opened an Intensive Family Based Safety Services case, monitoring the family for six months. CPS officials said they visited with the family to ensure that Dena Schlosser was following up with mental health professionals.

There was no justification for removing the children from the home on Jan. 9 because they looked protected, had a father at home and none of the children were injured, said Geoffrey Wool, a CPS spokesman in Austin.

"We thought we could work with Mom and the family," Wool said.

Wool declined to discuss the specifics of the medication Dena Schlosser had taken but said CPS last visited with the family on July 29 and closed the case in August.

"At the time, we closed the case because we felt comfortable, in light of mental health professionals telling us that Mom was stabilized, we felt that the family was in a good situation."


Nathaniel Jones, (972) 263-4448 njones@star-telegram.com
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« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2004, 04:22:00 PM »
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9517-Ma ... _baby.html

Excerpts:
The minister of a woman who admitted killing her baby daughter by severing the child's arms said Wednesday that her husband seemed emotionally stable but was searching for answers and concerned about how God will judge his wife.

Davidson, who started Water of Life Church in 1980, said he believes God uses the courts to work His will. He said he told Schlosser that although the Bible instructs not to kill, God also forgives.

"God will forgive every sin and he will forgive this woman," Davidson said. "My basic thing will be simply to pray that Dena will be brought to repentance to God and acknowledge her sin and then she'll be free."

But a friend of Schlosser's mother, Connie Macaulay, told The AP that Macaulay opposed her daughter's involvement in Davidson's church, and feared her grandchildren were being exposed to a cult-like environment.

"She didn't feel the atmosphere they were growing up in was safe and I think she was concerned the husband was too controlling," Lore Fichtner, a 57-year-old real estate agent, said from her home in Illinois, where Macaulay lived across the street for nearly a decade.

Fichtner said Macaulay was also concerned that her daughter and son-in-law were giving too much money to Davidson's church and spending too many long hours at services. Macaulay, who had always been close with her daughter, traveled to Texas more than once to try and persuade her to leave Davidson's church, Fichtner said.

"Connie contacted him to try to get him to back away from her daughter," she said, but "Dena stuck to this preacher and her husband."

Davidson said he remembered an unpleasant encounter with Macaulay more than a year ago but rejected notions of impropriety at the church. He said he doesn't pass a collection plate and services generally last under two hours.

"I believe Dena and John once told me that her mother didn't like me," the 72-year-old minister said. "Dena's mother came here once and, you know, she didn't like the things I said, but that's not unusual. I just say what's in the Bible."
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Local news reported that Schlosser had had three invasive brain surgeries between the age of 8-13 to place stints. No details as to why.
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« Reply #158 on: December 14, 2004, 10:25:00 AM »
http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=2 ... .oggitalia


Today in Italy
Special service by AGI on behalf of the Italian Prime Minister's office


PROLONGED RITALIN USE MAY CAUSE DEPRESSION
(AGI) - San Juan Â- A wrong diagnosis of ADHD, the attention deficit and hyperactivity syndrome, together with the prescribing of Ritalin (a mind drug known as the "obedience pill") could bring a higher risk of depression in adult age. The alarm was raised in the course of the annual Conference f the American College of Neuropsychopharmacology being held these days in San Juan (Puerto Rico). "An accurate diagnosis of the disease is fundamental, bearing in mind that the effects of the drug can last until adult age", explained William Carlezon, psychiatry professor at the Harvard Medical School. According to some studies carried out on mice, in fact, to give Ritalin at a very young age could affect later behaviour and cerebral functions which will reappear in adult age. The mice studied after two doses of Ritalin a day for a period equivalent to eight years in humans showed a reduced ability to appreciate prizes and perceive pleasure and had a greater probability of showing desperation in stressful situations. According to researchers, this data shows that the obedience pill may have prolonged effects. Furthermore, they highlight a worrying situation: About 90 percent of children diagnosed with ADHD are cured with Ritalin, notwithstanding the fact that diagnoses are not so accurate.
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« Reply #159 on: December 16, 2004, 07:00:00 PM »
http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25724

HEALTH:
Drug Industry Scandal a 'Crisis'
Ritt Goldstein

Vast numbers of dead, the compromising of key elements within  the medical community and its regulatory structures, the blind pursuit of billions of dollars in corporate profits -- all have surfaced in a detonating pharmaceutical industry scandal of global dimension.

The suicide deaths of numerous young people, despite the existence of information that could have precluded them, sparked the revelations. But a far broader, systemic and devastating problem has emerged regarding the full spectrum of newer prescription medications. "It's a general healthcare crisis, I think, at this point in time," famed British drug scientist and psychiatrist David Healy said in an interview.  "If the pharmaceutical companies in this area -- in the area of a hazard like a child being made suicidal by these drugs -- if they're prepared to sweep a thing like this under the carpet, then there isn't anyone taking any other drugs who can really be confident."

On Sep. 29 Merck & Co withdrew its popular arthritis drug Vioxx from the market, acknowledging it caused increased risk of stroke and heart attack. Just a month earlier the firm had strongly disagreed with a study by U.S.
regulatory agency the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that had revealed such problems, reported the Associated Press.

Since the late 1990s, the number of drugs either pulled from the U.S. market or given a "black box" label (a warning of side-effects that could lead to death or serious injury)has "mushroomed," according to Dr Joel Lexchin,professor in the School of Public Health Policy and Management at Toronto's York University. "A lot of people, including me, are attributing that to faster approvals in the U.S. à faster reviews by FDA officials have resulted in drugs getting onto the market which shouldn't have," Lexchin told IPS, commenting on newer medicines generally.

On Sep. 30 business magazine 'Forbes' noted that in Vioxx's five years on the market, 84 million people have used it, four million are presently
taking it, and that safety concerns first emerged in 2001. "Is there equivalent data on other drugs? It's not clear," 'Forbes' added. Death
estimates and resurfacing medical studies are now providing another kind of clarity, one of horrific proportion.

The highly respected British medical journal, 'The Lancet', published a 1998 study by University of Toronto researchers showing that adverse drug reactions (ADRs) are "a leading cause of death." It noted the study examined
"only ADRs attributed to drugs that were 'properly prescribed and administered'." The study's authors suggested, "many adverse reactions
result from the use of drugs with unavoidably high toxicity," and that medicine "cannot expect to reduce this burden until drug-induced illness is actually defined as a problem."

In the May 1 2002 issue of the 'Journal of the American Medical Association'(JAMA), five physicians from Harvard Medical School reported adverse drug reactions "are believed to be a leading cause of death in the United States." The authors urged the FDA to raise "its threshold for approving new drugs when safe, effective therapies already exist, or when the new drug
treats a benign condition", citing the "frequent introduction" of drugs where serious side-effects occur. And they emphatically advised that
"clinicians should avoid using new drugs when older, similarly efficacious agents are available."

Lexchin, who consults on pharmaceutical policy for groups such as the World Health Organisation (WHO) and governments including Australia and Canada, estimated that in the last five years, "biased research, suppression of negative studies, over-publication of positive studies and, all their (the pharmaceutical industry's) promotional activities, which includes their
funding of continuing medical education," has meant, yearly, "one death per 1,500 people" in the general population.

That translates into 6,670 deaths a year for every 10 million of a nation's populace. For perspective, about 3,000 people died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon. In contrast, the 1998 'Lancet' article viewed it likely that adverse drug reactions "could account for more than 100,000 (in-hospital alone) deaths in the USA each year, making them the fourth commonest cause of death."

The figures are likely "much the same" throughout the developed world, it added. On Sep. 9 the 'Washington Post' reported that the U.S. House of Representatives energy and commerce subcommittee for oversight and investigations was holding hearings on the pharmaceutical industry, in response to "the growing outcry over  suppressed medical studies."

The California legislature held a hearing in August on the potential link between anti-depressant drugs and suicide. According to State Senator Tom Torlakson, "our offices were deluged with requests to testify from family members of suicide victims." Speaking to the questions surrounding clinical trials, which test a medication's effectiveness and safety, the group
representing the U.S. drug industry, the Pharmaceutical Research And Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), noted on Sep. 9 that its board had approved principles to be used in the conduct and reporting of clinical trials two years ago. "These principles express the commitment of PhRMA member companies to communicate the results of all hypothesis-testing clinical trials, both positive and negative, for drugs that are on the
market," a PhRMA vice president said.

PhRMA represents industry firms "which are  devoted to inventing medicines that allow patients to live longer, healthier and more productive lives," added the prepared statement. No one from PhRMA was immediately available for comment for this article.

Similar to the Enron accounting scandal in the United States, the present prescription-drug debacle appears to be a matter of systemic corruption, including a gross and widespread failure within the regulatory process. Unlike Enron, enormous fatalities have resulted, though no criminal charges regarding these deaths have yet been announced.

On Sep. 21, UK newspaper 'The Guardian' reported that the drugs Seroxat and Prozac "can make people homicidal," according to results of drug trials revealed by Healy. The paper described him as "an expert on psychiatric drugs from north Wales whose warnings that the drugs (SSRI antidepressants) could cause suicide led to the entire class of drugs, except Prozac, being
banned last year (in the UK) from use in  children." Healy's recent book, 'Let Them Eat Prozac,' examines the "divide between the research" and what "'spin' that the marketing divisions of the pharmaceutical companies put
on."

Speaking to antidepressants, he added, "the published data for Prozac, Paxil and Zoloft all claim that these drugs reduce the likelihood of people going on to harm themselves the raw data from these clinical trials indicates that the drugs are more linked to people going on to harm themselves," the exact opposite of what had been claimed.

On Sep. 14 the FDA's medical advisory group decided that antidepressants should come with a "black box warning" that they can "spur suicidal
behaviour in children and teenagers."  Psychiatric medications are leading drug industry money makers. Last year, U.S. sales of just the class of antidepressants known as SSRIs (including Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Seroxat) were reported at 10.9 billion dollars. In 2002 the Fortune 500's 10 drug companies' combined profits of  35.9 billion dollars surpassed the combined
profits of the remaining 490 firms together, (33.7 billion dollars), according to MSNBC.

"The regulators aren't showing themselves to be on the side of the patient," said Healy. "If they think they are on the side of the patient, the way
they've generally handled the issues has come close to being incompetent." Of particular note, the Sep. 9 'Washington Post' article reported, "In
February, an internal agency report found that the medications (certain antidepressants) were associated with an increased risk of suicidal
behaviour. Top FDA officials played down the report at the time and refused to make it public until recently." A day later the paper reported that the FDA "repeatedly urged antidepressant manufacturers not to disclose to physicians and the public that some clinical trials of the medications in children found the drugs were no  better than sugar pills."

According to Lexchin, "this is a reflection of the fact that the FDA seems to have been captured by the industry it's supposed to be regulating." He sees the FDA as "looking after the interests of the pharmaceutical companies, putting their interests above the interests of the general
public."

During the 1990s, when the new wave of anti-psychotic drugs (including Risperdal and Zyprexa) was approved by the FDA, it did so with the proviso the drugs could not be marketed as superior to any existing anti-psychotic medication in terms of "safety or effectiveness," according to Dr John Read, one of the Pacific's leading authorities on psychiatric medication, author of 'Models of Madness' and director of clinical psychology at the University of Auckland.

The drug companies "proceeded to totally ignore that and to market their drugs at six to nine times the cost of the older drugs," managing to "pull off this incredible scam  internationally," Read added in an interview.
"There's a very powerful mythology out there that these drugs are used quite rarely, and that they're only used on people diagnosed schizophrenic," he added. But, warned Read, the pharmaceutical companies have "actually pushed
the market into younger people, ages five-10 into old-age facilities to people who do not have the diagnosis of schizophrenia."

Critics charge these drugs are often used as "chemical restraints," to subdue those who take them. Read added caustically: "And why wouldn't they do that (expand the market for their medications) -- the purpose of a company is to write a good return for their shareholders. (END/2004)

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« Reply #160 on: December 19, 2004, 08:17:00 PM »
Can you give me even ONE reference showing that there are any observable brain structural differences in bipolars or schizophrenics that are NOT confounded by the person having taken psychiatric medications?

On the whole "chemical imbalance" theory - it is just a THEORY. Cite one study of actually testing these chemicals in living brains. Those cartoons on the Zoloft commercial are not science.

There may be some chemical abnormalities in some mental disturbances. We understand very little of how the brain operates. Changing the balance of one or two of these neurotransmitters WILL cause a chemical imbalance.

The only SSRI approved for use on children under 18 is Prozac. Some children become suicidal while taking SSRIs who were not suicidal before.

There are safe and effective treatments that work for many people for many mental conditions. Diet and exercise are among them. Consider the fast food diet that is eaten by many people - including families with children, or the foods that are often available in school cafeterias these days. We are simultaneously becoming obese and having MANY nutritional deficiencies. For instance, a magnesium deficiency can have anxiety as one of its symptoms. One effect of low vitamin C is depression. IMO, and I'm not a medical professional, it is better to get all of the nutritional needs taken care of BEFORE trying to "bandaid" over it with an SSRI.

The SSRIs can be beneficial for a time, at least in some cases.

For others, there is a psychological cause, because of something that did or did not happen to them. Address these underlying causes, and you'll address the "disorder".
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« Reply #161 on: December 19, 2004, 08:43:00 PM »
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 Also, the subgroup of depressives with low serotonin in their spinal fluids were more likely to complete suicide, and more likely to choose a violent (knife, gun)--and therefore highly likely to actually be fatal---method than normal serotonin depressive patients.  Normal serotonin depressive patients were just as likely to have attempted suicide, but they chose methods (like pills) that had low rates of suicide completion (actual death).


The thing about the lethality of the method chosen to attempt suicide has to do with the amount of ambiguity the person feels about dying. If someone REALLY wants to die, they are more likely to choose a highly lethal method such as a knife or gun. If they are ambiguous about death, they will likely choose a less fatal method. Also, if they are doing it with high ambiguity and a sense that they want to "show them" or using the suicide attempt (partly) for manipulation, the method will not only be one of the less fatal ones, but will be set up in a way to (almost) ensure discovery and "rescue" in time.
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« Reply #162 on: December 19, 2004, 08:50:00 PM »
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And as someone who has mourned while on antidepressants, trust me, they don't take away the pain.  Those of my siblings who were on meds at funeral were indistinguishable by med status from those who were off.

I agree with most of what you've said.

However, mourning while on antidepressants can SEEM the same as "normal" mourning, it may not be.

People I know who were taken off of multiple psychiatric drugs after having taken them since childhood, for reasons such as kidney and liver failure, suddenly discovered that they had MANY issues left over from their entire life which they hadn't successfully dealt with, and had to deal with them all at once, and without medications.

It would seem similar to "drinking away the pain" of some loss or other. Sure, the problems can swim, and the person still feels bad. If the person then continues to be alcoholic, and eventually stops drinking, he/she will have to restart where he/she left off.

There are many studies showing this for alcohol and other mind-altering drugs. How could it be any different because a particular mind-altering drug was prescribe? It's not. It still interferes with feelings and processing feelings and stages of grieving.
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« Reply #163 on: December 19, 2004, 09:58:00 PM »
I hope anyone reading this will keep in mind that the anti-medication views posted in this forum are fringe beliefs not supported by the majority of physicians, let alone the majority of licensed psychiatrists and licensed psychologists.

Anyone who's ever had a loved one killed by a psychotic bipolar or schizophrenic who had gone off his or her meds would thank you to comply with doctor's orders if you have a major mental illness, or to support anyone you know who has a major mental illness in *their* complying with doctor's orders.

Please do not take medical advice from random people who post on the internet, no matter how sincere they may be or how reasonable their case sounds.  There's a reason we make people go through several years of very intense, specialized schooling, and several years residency in a hospital, before we license them to practice medicine.

Sure, if you have a phobia or a brief one-off brush with depression, perhaps you have more leeway.

But bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are too dangerous, both to the patient and to the people around him or her, to leave their treatment to people who are not licensed to practice medicine.

When in doubt, see your doctor.  If you're still in doubt, get a second opinion from a different doctor.  If you're still in doubt, get a third opinion from yet another doctor.

But don't let ideologues play around with your health or your family's health over the internet.  Your life, or your family member's life, is too precious to entrust to the care of people essentially handing out medical advice they want others to act on, without a license.

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« Reply #164 on: December 20, 2004, 03:42:00 PM »
The 'truth' often comes out of the 'fringe', the 'edge', as some call it. The edge, where all vital, creative activity happens.

Forward and excellent article by PhD

...many normal people have "enlarged ventricles." Thus this sign is not OBJECTIVE evidence of brain disorder. Ted Sarbin and James Mancuso prove in their 1980 classic book on "schizophrenia" that 20 yrs of research is characterized by these aforementioned flaws.(See the bibliography in my
article listed below.)  "Schizophrenics" in my experience as a psychologist do not suffer from any kind of "defect." One might plausibly posit that individuals who are branded with this label
are more sensitive (superior in some respects) than "normals" and thus more troubled by the dysfunctional families they may live with, or by the dysfunctional world we live in.As RD Laing argued, normality with its characteristic
obliviousness to the destruction of the environment by mega-corporations is a far more biologically maladaptive state--for the species-- than schizophrenia. As he put it during the war in Vietnam war, " THe perfectly adjusted bomber
pilot is a greater threat to the survival of the species than the 'schizophrenic' who thinks the Bomb is inside him." Alternatively--or complementarily-- one could posit that in some cases "schizophrenics' response to stress leads to the triggering of a natural death-rebirth process--aborted invariably by the practices of "mental health" system. RD Laing argued this in  The Politics of Experience in 1967. John Weir Perry also argued this in many books. I provided confirming reports in my 1993 book, Madness, Heresy and the Rumor of Angels which is still in print..
  In the meantime one of my essays was posted online a year ago. It discusses some germane issues in greater detail.

http://www.academyanalyticarts.org/farber.htm

Institutional Mental Health and Social Control: The Ravages of Epistemological Hubris
by Seth Farber, Ph.D.
Network Against Coercive Psychiatry, NYC
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