Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---You think children being molested and assualted is an issue of paperwork and training?
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I said the majority of issues seem to be paperwork, training issues.
--- Quote --- What's wrong with you. First you claim that programs are great because you think they document every event and now you claim they shouldnt if they dont add value or help.
Which is it?
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I never claimed that programs should not document everything. I think it is one of the strengths of the industry, especially the ones under regulation. I wish public schools detailed every event like program have to. I was saying that the knee jerk reaction for most places would be to not report every event unless they had too or unless it would lead to helping the child or the profit margin.
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heretik:
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--- Quote ---I don’t know specifically RCS’ motivation but I would think the natural reaction would be to handle the issues privately the best they can. The knee jerk reaction would be not to report incidences if they didn’t feel they needed to or if the report would add value or help.
The majority of the issues from the inspection reports seem to be paperwork related and training.
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You think children being molested and assualted is an issue of paperwork and training? What's wrong with you. First you claim that programs are great because you think they document every event and now you claim they shouldnt if they dont add value or help.
Which is it?
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He doesn't care which "is it". This is the personification of this person, a fool. Whooter whole premise for being here embodies being a jouster and we pay at the door by reciprocating just like pistons to his crankshaft.
Like I have been saying if I thought he actually cared (anything, what ever side) I would enter the fray here wholeheartedly but he doesn't. Look at his posts they lack in real knowledge or clarity. Whooter just knows where to go to post others opinions. He steals from others and their hard work and try's to pawn it off as a credible argument. Everything about him spells fraud. What is sad about this whole charade he has been playing here for so long, he does not feel the least bit ashamed by any of it. He actually has assimilated this personality completely, this is freaking sick.
Man's a fool.
Whooter the children, this has always been about the children.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Whooter the children, this has always been about the children.
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The only part of your post I agree with is the above. Heretik, you seem to think that I dont care about the children because I disagree with you. You feel all kids are damaged by the programs they attend and ignore the studies and the kids who do well. I understand that some kids get abused inside of programs and kids also get abused in our public school system and at home. You appear to be narrow minded and cannot see the entire picture only one side. This is why I appear to you to not care about the children.
Give it some thought.
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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Which is it?
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I think that programs should document everything (thats the requirement). I think public schools should document everything also (But they dont). But I understand why programs dont document everything, makes mistakes, have training issues. It is a difficult thing to do and to maintain.
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heretik:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Whooter the children, this has always been about the children.
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The only part of your post I agree with is the above. Heretik, you seem to think that I dont care about the children because I disagree with you. You feel all kids are damaged by the programs they attend and ignore the studies and the kids who do well. I understand that some kids get abused inside of programs and kids also get abused in our public school system and at home. You appear to be narrow minded and cannot see the entire picture only one side. This is why I appear to you to not care about the children.
Give it some thought.
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Whooter, I have read what you wrote (years past and present) and then formed a conclusion based upon your writings. I will point out that you have no idea where I stand on anything because I have never shared these principles and ideas with you in depth. I came here to this site because I felt I belonged for a personal catharsis (purgation) reason and have contributed along those principles. The ideas I have are to better the plight of children being abused in these programs.
I am not here to argue the foolish opinions you have. Example; " You appear to be narrow minded and cannot see the entire picture only one side. This is why I appear to you to not care about the children." This is a old worn out immature statement, Whooter. It actually shows just how ignorant you really are and how you lack in the ability to see us in a larger perspective. To think that we can not see a broader picture then are own misgivings, is possibly your biggest insult of all. I don't believe there isn't anyone here that would not applaud vigorously if their was a program that met all your ideals (fantasies) but the cold hard reality there is not if any programs available. In all your blathering over the years you have not made a case for such a program either. Which is of no surprise, you have allowed yourself to remain uneducated here. How you managed to do this is sad, very sad.
We understand and know all to well that there are children who need help we just do not approve of abuse being the fundamental backbone of their programs. All reasons you already know. Whether abuse is purposely used as a tool or not does not matter. What does matter is ending these age old abusive practices.
Anne has pointed out to you endlessly what programs we are talking about here. Maybe it would be a good idea if you were to get on the same page as everyone else and talk about the issues that are relevant to survivors. I mean you are on a program survivalist web site.
This whole thought process of yours, "I'm the middle of the road", "neutral" and "I can see all sides" is of no consequence here. You believe you are in a debate here and that can not be farther the the truth. No one is debating you Whooter, survivor, parent or others. There is no audience you are speaking to nor do we really have to be worried by what you say. As I have said before anyone who is educated on the subject of adolescence treatment programs will recognize real quick that you lack in merit and education/study. That there is very little depth in study or experience on your part when it comes to the TTI. These are the facts.
The whole point of you being here is for a psychiatrist to figure out. I do not believe anyone would pay a fool such as you anything. What in the hell are you contributing here that would be worth paying for. :rofl: No you are not obfuscating, puleasssse. Some one just needs to find the fly swatter.
I really do not care about neutral or middle of the road but it would really be a giant step for you (I'm sure) if you could honestly see all sides and embrace this.
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