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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2010, 01:04:13 PM »
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when a program representative says: "we've changed" or "we don't do that anymore".

he/she really means "we're calling it something else, but it's pretty much the exact same thing."

I have no doubt that programs today are hiring people with records, or at the very least with very little qualification.  WWASP being a good example.  There are countless others, including "reputable" programs, who have been caught employing under-qualified personnel.

Aspen Ed is another one.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2010, 03:55:15 PM »
These are the teachers they have on staff.

Ballou-Baldwin, Martha    Administrative Assistant .... Licensed Practical Nurse

Gutermuth, Brittany    Teacher......BA in Environmental Studies

Jasinski, Chris    Teacher.......  BA in Linguistics and Minor in French

LaForest, Jennifer    Teacher .........Bachelor of Arts degree in Chemistry & Philosophy

Lyons, Judith    Learning Specialist .......Masters in Education from Fitchburg State.

Misener, Melinda    Teacher    .......degree in Comparative Literature.

Tripler, Charles    Teacher ......no info

Wallender, John    Teacher ......  bachelorís from State University of New York,

Wilcox, Dennis    Academic Registrar/Scheduler   .......majored in Mathematics

Williams, Greg    Teacher  ....BA in Biology from the Univ of Penn.

Winston, Jeff    Teacher .....  Temple University with a degree in Communications.



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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2011, 12:29:13 PM »
I think they can hire that people at a very low cost.Usually relatively  low educated people can be hired at very low cost.It might be the reason for this.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2011, 01:08:45 PM »
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I think they can hire that people at a very low cost.Usually relatively  low educated people can be hired at very low cost.It might be the reason for this.

Its a good point, Alvasin, It always comes down to cost.  Look at your local public school, the school system does not hire all PhD's in fact most of the teachers are not that highly educated themselves.  If the people in the town thought they wanted PhDs to teach there children they would raise taxes and pay the higher salaries.  Same with programs, they hire what the customers want.  Many of the kids entering these programs dropped out of school anyway so just getting their butts in a classroom is a big step lol.  

But that aside, it is good to see these programs are getting themselves licensed and accredited to the point where they can hand out diplomas.


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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2011, 01:41:43 PM »
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I think they can hire that people at a very low cost.Usually relatively  low educated people can be hired at very low cost.It might be the reason for this.

From what I have seen this is true, Alvasin.  Program line staff are typically minimum wage, uneducated and inexperienced.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2011, 02:46:20 PM »
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Quote from: "Alvasin"
I think they can hire that people at a very low cost.Usually relatively  low educated people can be hired at very low cost.It might be the reason for this.

Its a good point, Alvasin, It always comes down to cost.  Look at your local public school, the school system does not hire all PhD's in fact most of the teachers are not that highly educated themselves.  If the people in the town thought they wanted PhDs to teach there children they would raise taxes and pay the higher salaries.  Same with programs, they hire what the customers want.  Many of the kids entering these programs dropped out of school anyway so just getting their butts in a classroom is a big step lol.  

But that aside, it is good to see these programs are getting themselves licensed and accredited to the point where they can hand out diplomas.


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 Insane!!!!! You will talk even if what comes out of your mouthy is totally without merit. That is what I meant by my characterization of your type of research being nothing more the a conversation with your buddies outside at the barbecue before Sunday's football games.
School teachers at the very least have to have a Bachelors Degree and they need to have taken classes throughout the year to build credits to fulfill their accreditation. This is all well documented within the school administration.

You just recklessly react around here to comments and because you have a flair with speech you confuse this ability with actual credibility. No!!! Whooter, just because you can write does not mean you actually know what you are talking about. I know!!! Amazing!!!!!, Most people with your abilities are not wasting them away trying to bullshit others. What you have accomplished around here is to show everyone that you are a "fool". I wonder if this behavior is synonymous with your life in general. You don't care whether Aspen hires educated staff to handle the kids or not. You have shown over and over that the children are secondary (maybe not at all) to your agenda/ego here.
 
I know you disagree with this assessment of your interactions around here. Well guess what, you are not being singled out or being demonized by the masses. You are being highlighted and most of the time people have gone out of their way to try and teach you something yet it fails every time. You have it all figured out.
Well for someone that has it all figured out, how did you end up all by yourself. Please don't tell me your the "Mother Theresa" and Fornits is your Calcutta.
Your David and Fornits is the Goliath ect.....Please.

Martyr....yeah that's it. Your behavior here is your martyrdom.

Or.....just another way for a someone to entertain themselves.
 
The children, Whooter.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2011, 03:09:16 PM »
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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Alvasin"
I think they can hire that people at a very low cost.Usually relatively  low educated people can be hired at very low cost.It might be the reason for this.

Its a good point, Alvasin, It always comes down to cost.  Look at your local public school, the school system does not hire all PhD's in fact most of the teachers are not that highly educated themselves.  If the people in the town thought they wanted PhDs to teach there children they would raise taxes and pay the higher salaries.  Same with programs, they hire what the customers want.  Many of the kids entering these programs dropped out of school anyway so just getting their butts in a classroom is a big step lol.  

But that aside, it is good to see these programs are getting themselves licensed and accredited to the point where they can hand out diplomas.


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School teachers at the very least have to have a Bachelors Degree and they need to have taken classes throughout the year to build credits to fulfill their accreditation. This is all well documented within the school administration.

I think you mis understood my post.  Let me pull out your fit and focus on the discussion at hand.  So we agree that if we look at our local public school system they are not all educated to the PhD level.  Like Heretik says the teachers are bachelor level and some, in my experience, are masters level.  So we are on the same page here, Heretik.  Many of the programs are becoming accredited with the state they are in and are even able to hand out diplomas.  Many other schools, if they are too small, partner with the local school system to keep the children educated.



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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2011, 03:17:23 PM »
Heretik, here is a program teacher staff list:

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These are the teachers they have on staff.

Ballou-Baldwin, Martha    Administrative Assistant .... Licensed Practical Nurse

Gutermuth, Brittany    Teacher......BA in Environmental Studies

Jasinski, Chris    Teacher.......  BA in Linguistics and Minor in French

LaForest, Jennifer    Teacher .........Bachelor of Arts degree in Chemistry & Philosophy

Lyons, Judith    Learning Specialist .......Masters in Education from Fitchburg State.

Misener, Melinda    Teacher    .......degree in Comparative Literature.

Tripler, Charles    Teacher ......no info

Wallender, John    Teacher ......  bachelorís from State University of New York,

Wilcox, Dennis    Academic Registrar/Scheduler   .......majored in Mathematics

Williams, Greg    Teacher  ....BA in Biology from the Univ of Penn.

Winston, Jeff    Teacher .....  Temple University with a degree in Communications.



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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2011, 03:26:18 PM »
No link to an updated source = not believable.  I can't accept Whooter's word for it.  He lies too much.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2011, 03:33:44 PM »
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No link to an updated source = not believable.  I can't accept Whooter's word for it.  He lies too much.


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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2011, 04:13:48 PM »
Any independent verification?  Youhave said many times when trying to explain why ASR didn't have any licensed teachers that it was just "the website isn't up to date."

We'll have to see some credible evidence, Whooter.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2011, 04:15:26 PM »
Accreditation



CITA (Commission on International and Trans-Regional Accreditation)

Approved as a private school by the Mohawk Trail Regional School Committee in compliance with Massachusetts Chapter 71 Section 1

SEVIS-approved and qualified to accept international students

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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2011, 04:18:53 PM »
Still no proof I see.  We can wait until the website is updated I guess.  Let us know.
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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2011, 04:21:29 PM »
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Still no proof I see.  We can wait until the website is updated I guess.  Let us know.

Waiting is always a good option.  Patience is a virtue.



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Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2011, 04:25:28 PM »
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UMMMM.....Lemme see 1.cause they work cheap
                                    2. cause they'll buy in,drink the cool-aid ,and not know any better.
                                    3. they cant be held accountable to any certifications or licences.

                                                                             Does that about cover it? :nods:

So we have come full circle, seamus.  Your answer is still the best one.
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