Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Troll Control]

I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.



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See, this is just another lie from Whooter.  In five seconds (the time it took him to make two more compulsive posts) I found this here where Whooter is commenting on...wait for it...Ottawa5.  What a lying phony!

The programmies have been making this forum sound a lot like group lately. These control freaks known as TheWho and Ottawa5 etc attempt to cast a silver lining on tough love programs they are tied in with. If anyone challenges their POV, they immediately bitch and moan about how they are not being treated fairly here. Cry me a river.  :rofl:

Personally I dont bitch and moan if someone challenges my point of view.  I think that is what fornits is all about (open discussion).  From where I sit I see all the anit-program people doing all the complaining and crying.

I suppose people here will have to keep calling out these brainwashed charlatans one by one and voice their inner hatred for them and what they stand for...  I guess they'll continue to be compelled to state why coercive (thus inherently abusive) "programs" and "schools" don't do anyone much good at all...

I would suggest leaving the hatred out of the posts... just keep trying to voice your point of view and explain why you feel the way you do.  The hatred overshadows the point you are trying to make and in many cases thats all we see is the hatred, so its self defeating.



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[Whooter]

Nice try DJ,  That wasnt me talking to Ottawa5, it was a guy named "Thought Criminal"  You need to show I knew this Ottawa 5 (not just responded to a post).

I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.



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See, this is just another lie from Whooter.  In five seconds (the time it took him to make two more compulsive posts) I found this here where Whooter is commenting on...wait for it...Ottawa5.  What a lying phony!

The programmies have been making this forum sound a lot like group lately. These control freaks known as TheWho and Ottawa5 etc attempt to cast a silver lining on tough love programs they are tied in with. If anyone challenges their POV, they immediately bitch and moan about how they are not being treated fairly here. Cry me a river.  :rofl:

Personally I dont bitch and moan if someone challenges my point of view.  I think that is what fornits is all about (open discussion).  From where I sit I see all the anit-program people doing all the complaining and crying.

I suppose people here will have to keep calling out these brainwashed charlatans one by one and voice their inner hatred for them and what they stand for...  I guess they'll continue to be compelled to state why coercive (thus inherently abusive) "programs" and "schools" don't do anyone much good at all...

I would suggest leaving the hatred out of the posts... just keep trying to voice your point of view and explain why you feel the way you do.  The hatred overshadows the point you are trying to make and in many cases thats all we see is the hatred, so its self defeating.



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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Whooter]

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Troll Control]

Don't know who she is?  C'mon, Whooter.  Right i this post you're commenting about her after "thought criminal" pointed out that you are both working the same agenda - pushing programs.  You responded to this post and obviously read it.  And Ottawa5 is not the only indistry type that has been on here either.  You lied again when you said you didn't even know who she was.  But, hey, what DON'T you lie about, Mr. Fiduciary Duty to Aspen Education?  You'll never escape that admission and it's 100% damning.  Tough luck because it's a direct quote from you.  Everything you post is just made up.

Damn, Whooter.  Five years later and still all you do is bitch and moan!  And you bitch and moan just about being quoted.  You said these things.  Take responsibility like you did when you were locked up in jail with the "scary black guys."   :roflmao:

I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.



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See, this is just another lie from Whooter.  In five seconds (the time it took him to make two more compulsive posts) I found this here where Whooter is commenting on...wait for it...Ottawa5.  What a lying phony!

The programmies have been making this forum sound a lot like group lately. These control freaks known as TheWho and Ottawa5 etc attempt to cast a silver lining on tough love programs they are tied in with. If anyone challenges their POV, they immediately bitch and moan about how they are not being treated fairly here. Cry me a river.  :rofl:

Personally I dont bitch and moan if someone challenges my point of view.  I think that is what fornits is all about (open discussion).  From where I sit I see all the anit-program people doing all the complaining and crying.

I suppose people here will have to keep calling out these brainwashed charlatans one by one and voice their inner hatred for them and what they stand for...  I guess they'll continue to be compelled to state why coercive (thus inherently abusive) "programs" and "schools" don't do anyone much good at all...

I would suggest leaving the hatred out of the posts... just keep trying to voice your point of view and explain why you feel the way you do.  The hatred overshadows the point you are trying to make and in many cases thats all we see is the hatred, so its self defeating.



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[Whooter]

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?  Do you think DJ can provide a link?




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[Whooter]

DJ, do a search and see if I ever responded to one of Ottawa5's posts or mine to Ottawa5.  I cant control what other people say about me and neither can you.  But I have no connection to this poster...  I responded to a poster named "Thought Criminal"

Run the search!  You made this up like all your other connections.  You have been caught yet again.... you never provided a link because there isnt any.. just someone talking about us in the same post.



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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Whooter]

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?  Do you think DJ can provide a link where this Ottawa5 person and myself are having a conversation?  lol I cant.




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[RobertBruce]

This is just getting sad John. What is it exactly that you believe DJ made up? What do you believe he lied about? All of your links seem to coroborate his education claims. You've once again been painted into a corner with your own words and are attempting to deflect onto someone else who has shamed you. Keep digging your hole if you like, it's the only thing you're good at. I must say though given that you've been caught in countless lies I find it odd that you would even bring up some one elses honesty.


That aside my questions to you remain unanswered:

1. Why would your claim of enjoying meeting with fornits posters cause you to travel to a meeting to set up a statistical study of the TBS safety?

2. Why has your view point regarding programs rationing food as a form of punishment changed?

[Troll Control]

You know how people are always saying how Whooter goes back and edits his posts about his daughter not speaking to him for two years after the program, dropping out of high school, etc?  

He basically cleaned up that whole story from the database so he could argue "how well" she did "after the program."  And you know how keeps accusing people of "fabricating" or "editing" their posts?

Let's atke a look here at this "clean up job" Whooter did on his daughter's behavior after the program which he originally posted on Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:50 pm .

On 2006-01-01 13:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"not if they are living in YOUR house without paying rent, bills....If you don't want to follow the rules, get a job, get your own place, fix your own meals, figure out your own transportation, have your own life.  And finally be happy following your own rules."

My daughter came home and had a difficult transition.  She initially went back with her old friends but eventually got bored with them and moved on.  I was worried for awhile but we communicated with each other and new she was in a good space.

Seems pretty mundane unless you knew what he had said previously re: cutting him out of her life and dropping out of school and drinking and drugging when she got home from the program.  But Whooter "fixed" that by going back over a year later and editing that nasty stuff out:

Last edited by TheWho on Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Looks like Whoter has been caught protesting a bit too much, eh? :roflmao:  :roflmao:

[Anne Bonney]

I remember that because it reminded me quite a bit of how the relationship between my father and I deteriorated after "graduating" (lest anyone think I'm just "disgruntled" because I didn't "graduate"....I did.)

[Whooter]

You know how people are always saying how Whooter goes back and edits his posts about his daughter not speaking to him for two years after the program, dropping out of high school, etc?  

He basically cleaned up that whole story from the database so he could argue "how well" she did "after the program."  And you know how keeps accusing people of "fabricating" or "editing" their posts?

Let's atke a look here at this "clean up job" Whooter did on his daughter's behavior after the program which he originally posted on Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:50 pm .

On 2006-01-01 13:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"not if they are living in YOUR house without paying rent, bills....If you don't want to follow the rules, get a job, get your own place, fix your own meals, figure out your own transportation, have your own life.  And finally be happy following your own rules."

My daughter came home and had a difficult transition.  She initially went back with her old friends but eventually got bored with them and moved on.  I was worried for awhile but we communicated with each other and new she was in a good space.

Seems pretty mundane unless you knew what he had said previously re: cutting him out of her life and dropping out of school and drinking and drugging when she got home from the program.  But Whooter "fixed" that by going back over a year later and editing that nasty stuff out:

Last edited by TheWho on Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Looks like Whoter has been caught protesting a bit too much, eh? :roflmao:  :roflmao:

Nice try DJ.  Maybe I admitted to killing a few people also, lol

Lets take a look at the education argument.





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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol