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Who really is the lead Plantiff?
« on: October 05, 2003, 04:06:00 PM »
Ryan is not the lead plantiff in the class action.  However his story mirrors that of the lead plantiff's.  Ryan is out there to attract attention to this topic so that the lead plantiff's story will have already been heard.  This way the story of the lead plantiff will have not been compromised.   This is an attempt to make possible jurors aware of the subject matter and yet not compromise the validity of the lead.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2003, 04:29:00 PM »
I heard that Ryan is "not" the lead plaintiff and like the Mscaution stated, he is only a potential plaintiff. When I talked to the law firm they told me they will tell us
"if" and when they will represent me. Ryan may not even be in the running, but in his head he thinks he is much more. I am sure he is a victim but truthfully, his big publicity stunts are more for his own attention IMHO then anything else. Dont misunderstand, there is a lawsuit being filed, but we will wait and see who is listed. I did hear they have almost 500 potential plaintiffs! I just hope they take my case.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2003, 05:19:00 PM »
500 plaintiffs?  All kids, or are their parents listed as plaintffs as well?  Also, would someone please explain the significance of naming a "lead plaintiff" and what the qualifications are?  As for the comments regarding Ryan F., I tend to agree that his P.R. stunts have weakened, not
strengthened, his credibility.  However, he is only 16 years old and is certainly doing his best to live up to the demands of a lot of adults depending upon him to further their own agenda, so rather than criticize him, we should be appreciative and wish him good luck.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2003, 05:40:00 PM »
Check out this website about the Firestone Tire class-action settlement being sent to "proposed"  class members. Note that personal injury claims are not involved and that the attorneys are asking for $19 million in fees, costs and expenses.  

http://www.firestonesettlement.com/
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2003, 05:42:00 PM »
From what I can tell, lead plaintiff seems to simply be the first name on the list.  No real significance.

If they win money, each will get the same share, so it doesn't matter in that sense.

But for the media, it makes them sound like they've got a "key player" -- it answers the viewers or readers question, why this guy out of the 100?

If anyone with any legal training knows otherwise, I'd love to hear it-- from what I've read on civil suits, it's not important, but I'm not an expert.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2003, 06:42:00 PM »
"I tend to agree that his P.R. stunts have weakened, not
strengthened, his credibility."

I too, think he has weakened his own case.  But you see what he is doing is telling a story that alot of people will hear for the first time and at first not beleive.  The shock of something like this happening will be too much for the average Joe.  However, then when the real plantiff comes forward and tells the same story, then the jurors, having already heard the story previously from the various news media will have gotten over the shock factor, the "I can't beleive something like this could happen i our society" will be more receptive to the real plantiffs story, which is the Goodwin's son's story.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2003, 07:12:00 PM »
I feel sorry for Ryan.  I, thank god, never spent time in one of these nightmare places, but I did survive being raped.  I know from experience that having a real bad thing happen to you can mess you up for awhile in ways that you don't get all straightened out for years.

If the kid isn't perfect, well, he's been through a lot.  Most people who go through something that bad will be very not perfect for awhile afterwards.

As long as his mom is getting him help from a competent, qualified, licensed professional, eventually he'll be okay.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2003, 07:57:00 PM »
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""I tend to agree that his P.R. stunts have weakened, not

strengthened, his credibility."



I too, think he has weakened his own case.  But you see what he is doing is telling a story that alot of people will hear for the first time and at first not beleive.  The shock of something like this happening will be too much for the average Joe.  However, then when the real plantiff comes forward and tells the same story, then the jurors, having already heard the story previously from the various news media will have gotten over the shock factor, the "I can't beleive something like this could happen i our society" will be more receptive to the real plantiffs story, which is the Goodwin's son's story."


This real and unreal plaintiff b.s. is hard to follow, much less swallow!  Sounds like there are too many egos at play, here, and that even if this lawsuit is filed, the lawyers (on both sides) are the ones who stand to make the most money ...
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2003, 08:10:00 PM »
Personally, who cares about the money, sure the lawyers make money, but who cares.  The most important point is that the abuse stops, the fraud stops, and the children are freed. Acutally the most important factor is WWASPS is held ACCOUNTABLE and is CLOSED forever!

Lead Plaintiff?  Who cares. I also heard it is NOT Ryan F., it seems like he is the scapegoat right now.  He is a young kid, so leave him alone. His website is bogus, but it is his ego. Let him have it. Bottom line is with or without Ryan F. WWASPS is going down. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2003, 08:19:00 PM »
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"Personally, who cares about the money, sure the lawyers make money, but who cares.  The most important point is that the abuse stops, the fraud stops, and the children are freed. Acutally the most important factor is WWASPS is held ACCOUNTABLE and is CLOSED forever!



Lead Plaintiff?  Who cares. I also heard it is NOT Ryan F., it seems like he is the scapegoat right now.  He is a young kid, so leave him alone. His website is bogus, but it is his ego. Let him have it. Bottom line is with or without Ryan F. WWASPS is going down. Just my opinion."


Quit taking shots at Ryan, bottom line, no matter how this turns out, he still comes out a winner and that is sweet justice!
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2003, 11:50:00 AM »
I may have an idea how this 'lead plaintiff' thing got started.
Some time back, I received an email, as did a number of others it was cc'd to, stating we had been chosen as lead plaintiff's in the pending class action. Ryan was on of the people who received this, just judging from the cc list.
So, I'm guessing, if he has the idea he is to be a lead plaintiff, this would be why.
This email did not originate from the firm; and I think possibly was the result of some confusion - but I'm not certain of how much confusion, if any; As I myself am not certain of how all this works.
I agree with those above who say it matters not - A class action will be filed, and as always in such cases, its the law firm that will most profit - and thats fine and dandy with me.
The reason for this action from the point of view of the plaintiffs is primarily to shine a light, on this evil that has been festering hidden for far to long. To get it stopped and penalized to such a degree, no one will be tempted to try and perpetrate such evil again.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2003, 07:53:00 PM »
It really doesnt matter about a lead plaintiff or not, bottom line is we want them to make WWASPS accountable. I am certainly not cutting up Ryan F. , but the point is very well taken, he is not credible. For his sake, I hope he gets what he wants out of life.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2003, 08:32:00 PM »
No one lead plaintifss,but many is what I heard.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2003, 09:19:00 PM »
What about holding the parents accountable?  They're the ones signing away the rights of their own children only to cry foul months and years after the fact.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2003, 09:39:00 PM »
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"What about holding the parents accountable?  They're the ones signing away the rights of their own children only to cry foul months and years after the fact.



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Well, you see, it's like this.  The parents are, generally speaking, stupid fruitloops rather than actually malicious.

The industry is a pack of cons preying on the stupid fruitloops.

In other cases where we have cons preying on the stupid fruitloops of the country, we generally don't punish the stupid fruitloops, but the cons that prey on them.

If stupidity were a crime, half the human race would be in prison.

We can't cure stupidity, nor can we protect the stupid from themselves.  Unfortunately, it is also extremely difficult to protect children from stupid parents.

What we can do is periodically weed out the population of con-men preying on the stupid and making the damages resulting from the stupidity an order of magnitude worse.

*That* is why the enforcement needs to be directed at the racket, not the parents.
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