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Islam’s Invasion Ideology...
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I understand that, I really do but would you have been as squeamish if it was Muslims handing out Islamic literature at a Christian Festival? Cuz that's what happened. Christians went to a Muslim Festival specifically to hand out Christian literature. Why? What did they hope to accomplish? Was it just stirring the pot? How well would that have gone over if it was switched around? That's supposed to be one of the beauties of this country....that you're free to worship as you see fit, or not at all. I'm also reminded of the famous Ben Franklin quote.....They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Their intention is neither here nor there to me...
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It's of interest to me.
--- Quote ---it's the fact that it happened, that the cops ran them off for nothing that i find troubling
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Me too, fwiw.
--- Quote --- (and that goes for either way, hypothetically; if it had been the other way, that is fucked as well).
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Cool.
--- Quote ---So who cares what their intention was. That is not the point at all.
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Well, like I said....it's of interest to me. It seems like some of the people just want to provoke a reaction. While that doesn't excuse the reaction, the live and let live attitude appeals to me a lot more than poking the bear.
--- Quote --- A couple of the Christians were Arabs that had converted to Christianity. As far as Islam, they're brainwashed to reject any religious literature that isn't Islamic...and this is why the cops were alerted..
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And JudeoChristians aren't?
Froderik:
Not to that extent they aren't; apparently it's written into their book to react like this... I don't know, maybe someone else has more info on this.
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---This is all very interesting (I mean that sincerely; there's a lot of good stuff here). Now let's focus on Islam and the correct political response to events in recent years. We have to examine the big picture -- the fact that the U.S. & Saudi Arabia have been doing business for more than 50 years, etc. Where does America go from here? I find it unsettling to hear about how squeamish the media can be about all of this, and I don't like hearing about stuff like that bullshit that went on up in Dearborn MI...(people getting run off for handing out Christian literature on the street).
I think we are kissing ass too much. Way too worried about offending people, when we should be concerned for our safety...
But hey,.. maybe 9/11 never really happened...they say the Holocaust may have been a myth, too.. ::)
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Talk about squeamish, they gave up the idea of capturing and killing Bin laden because of well over 50 years of business with Saudi Arabia. My opinion.
France came up with a great solution for young women wearing head scarfs ("Hijab's'')in schools, the answer was no. Basically they said as a country, we are France and we enjoy who we are and if you want to reside here in this country there are certain rules we have, please abide by them or move back to your country of origin.
We are a country founded on Judea Christian values, this is not to say we are all Christians.
We need to stop being confused about who we are and stand up and reclaim are American values.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---Not to that extent they aren't;
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Depends on the person. I've met plenty that are.
--- Quote --- apparently it's written into their book to react like this... I don't know, maybe someone else has more info on this.
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See, that's just it. I keep hearing people say that, and it may very well be true, but whenever I ask for a citation all I get is "some Muslim told me.......". I'm just asking for the citation so I can read for myself.
--- Quote from: "Heretik" ---France came up with a great solution for young women wearing head scarfs ("Hijab's'')in schools, the answer was no. Basically they said as a country, we are France and we enjoy who we are and if you want to reside here in this country there are certain rules we have, please abide by them or move back to your country of origin.
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I completely agree with that. I read about a Muslim woman who didn't want to take hers off for her driver's license photo. Bull. Shit.
BuzzKill:
--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---This is all very interesting (I mean that sincerely; there's a lot of good stuff here). Now let's focus on Islam and the correct political response to events in recent years. We have to examine the big picture -- the fact that the U.S. & Saudi Arabia have been doing business for more than 50 years, etc. Where does America go from here? I find it unsettling to hear about how squeamish the media can be about all of this, and I don't like hearing about stuff like that bullshit that went on up in Dearborn MI...(people getting run off for handing out Christian literature on the street).
I think we are kissing ass too much. Way too worried about offending people, when we should be concerned for our safety...
But hey,.. maybe 9/11 never really happened...they say the Holocaust may have been a myth, too.. ::)
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OK - Anne and I can take our current debate elsewhere if she wants ;-)
I have read your latest and do have a comment or two - but I'll leave it for now.
As to the cops being called on the Arab Christians trying to witness their faith to their muslim brothers and sisters and the "what would Christians do" table turn question. . .
I am sure it would varie a great deal. Some Christian groups are seriously closed to all outside debate while others are much more open. The tightly closed sectarian types might very well call the police. The more open to dialoging would probably be delighted for the opportunity to witness to the Muslims.
But how would the cops respond? My guess is they'd tell the up-tight Christians to shut up or risk arrest themselves.
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