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Offline Whooter

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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2010, 02:46:14 PM »
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Cuz I didn't really have any major problems to begin with.

Dam, see that?
It is statements like these that lead me to believe you are not being very truthful with the readers here Anne.
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I see exactly what your saying Whoot, she has not been very accurate with her story either. If you remember she posted she was the lightweight of the group, then she also posted that she was involved with hard narcotics (to assume smack/dope), well I asked her about this a few weeks ago and she ran from the question like it was the plague.
These hardcore folks here hate to be held down to answer, they squeal like a pig.
Robert, is the same way. Must have taken that fornits class together.

Not sure why though.  I suspect that they are angry at themselves because all the other people they were in the program with applied themselves and they have moved on to better lives and the only thing left for posters like Bruce and Anne are to blame the program and their families for their present condition.  They both know they were placed into a program for a very good reason but they have built a 3 foot wall around the truth and are portraying a facade.



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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2010, 02:46:29 PM »
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Cuz I didn't really have any major problems to begin with.

Dam, see that?
It is statements like these that lead me to believe you are not being very truthful with the readers here Anne.
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I see exactly what your saying Whoot, she has not been very accurate with her story either. If you remember she posted she was the lightweight of the group, then she also posted that she was involved with hard narcotics (to assume smack/dope), well I asked her about this a few weeks ago and she ran from the question like it was the plague.

Excuse me???? Citation please.  I was the lightweight of my group of friends in high school.  The ones who were doing heavier drugs didn't get sent away and led a very successful adult life after high school.   The only drugs I did before entering Straight were pot, alcohol and unknowingly a quaalude.  Long after graduating Straight I did get hooked on opiates after two jaw surgeries (jaw was locking open literally every day for about 5 years before insurance would cover surgery that fixed it) and a lumbar surgery.  There is a difference.
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2010, 02:49:29 PM »
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Not sure why though.  I suspect that they are angry at themselves because all the other people they were in the program with applied themselves and they have moved on to better lives and the only thing left for posters like Bruce and Anne are to blame the program and their families for their present condition.  They both know they were placed into a program for a very good reason but they have built a 3 foot wall around the truth and are portraying a facade.


I know no such thing.  None of my high school friends could understand why I was the one who was sent away.  My  mother didn't think I needed it, but my father being the domineering person he was, steamrolled right over her.  She hasn't stopped apologizing for letting him berate her into agreeing to send me away.
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2010, 02:50:20 PM »
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Cuz I didn't really have any major problems to begin with.

Dam, see that?
It is statements like these that lead me to believe you are not being very truthful with the readers here Anne.

Think what you want, it doesn't change the truth that I was a pretty normal teen with no major problems.

That's what they all say now.  I won't lie.  I was really screwed up as a kid.  I needed that program and needed it badly.  I had a family member, I won't name the person so don't ask, that did some things to me as a kid that weren't right.  My parents recognized this and sent me to a program right away, away from the dangers of my own home and it was for my own good.  While I was away I had time to heal and learn how to deal with my problems so when I went back home to the same situation I would be better off.  This is what Whooter and Danny keeps trying to explain to you people here.  When the family has big problems, it's best to send the kids as far away as possible to a program that can help them understand how to fit into the family better.  When the kid comes home, they step back into the family like they never missed a day and everyone is happy again.  The kid is back on track.


Blame and punish the abused, not the abuser.  Why am I not surprised?  Did this person keep "doing things that weren't right" to other kids?  Why did nobody consider sending THEM away?
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2010, 02:52:12 PM »
I think the bottom line is that whether they needed the program or not, only good can come from it if you open yourself up and participate fully.  As Whooter said before, programs are good for all kids whether or not they actually "needed it" or not.  To close your minds to the awsome experiences of a program is to remain ignorant.  Are you really going to try to tell us that if you went to all of the LifeSteps you wouldn't be a better person, even if you felt like you didn't need it?  Let's face it, these programs are becoming more and more mainstream and with people like me, Danny and Whooter promoting them, we will insure that every kid gets a chance to be in a program.  You few extremists can't change that inevitability with your little website and your whining.
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2010, 02:53:30 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Cuz I didn't really have any major problems to begin with.

Dam, see that?
It is statements like these that lead me to believe you are not being very truthful with the readers here Anne.
...

I see exactly what your saying Whoot, she has not been very accurate with her story either. If you remember she posted she was the lightweight of the group, then she also posted that she was involved with hard narcotics (to assume smack/dope), well I asked her about this a few weeks ago and she ran from the question like it was the plague.

Excuse me???? Citation please.  I was the lightweight of my group of friends in high school.  The ones who were doing heavier drugs didn't get sent away and led a very successful adult life after high school.   The only drugs I did before entering Straight were pot, alcohol and unknowingly a quaalude.  Long after graduating Straight I did get hooked on opiates after two jaw surgeries (jaw was locking open literally every day for about 5 years before insurance would cover surgery that fixed it) and a lumbar surgery.  There is a difference.

So you were prone to drug addiction, Anne.  Your parents and the program rescued you from this path you were heading down and educated you on the dangers of drugs and alcohol.  After the program you were free to make your own choice and you chose the dark path even though you knew it was self destructive.  This went counter to your teachings and showed your parents were right in sending you.
As far as the jaw and lumbar I dont know how they are connected in to all of this.



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Offline Anne Bonney

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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2010, 02:53:48 PM »
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I had a family member, I won't name the person so don't ask, that did some things to me as a kid that weren't right.

So did I.  I was sexually abused when I was 7 and the program, even the executive director, told me it was my fault.

 
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My parents recognized this and sent me to a program right away, away from the dangers of my own home and it was for my own good.  While I was away I had time to heal and learn how to deal with my problems so when I went back home to the same situation I would be better off.  This is what Whooter and Danny keeps trying to explain to you people here.  When the family has big problems, it's best to send the kids as far away as possible to a program that can help them understand how to fit into the family better. When the kid comes home, they step back into the family like they never missed a day and everyone is happy again.  The kid is back on track.


Ok.....we ARE being punked.
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2010, 02:56:54 PM »
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Not sure why though.  I suspect that they are angry at themselves because all the other people they were in the program with applied themselves and they have moved on to better lives and the only thing left for posters like Bruce and Anne are to blame the program and their families for their present condition.  They both know they were placed into a program for a very good reason but they have built a 3 foot wall around the truth and are portraying a facade.


I know no such thing.  None of my high school friends could understand why I was the one who was sent away.  My  mother didn't think I needed it, but my father being the domineering person he was, steamrolled right over her.  She hasn't stopped apologizing for letting him berate her into agreeing to send me away.

Bla Bla Bla , same old story. Just does not add up Anne, your perfect little normal life. Anyway, what difference does it make in the big picture, your doing good now and you seem happy. That is all that counts at the end of the day, right Anna Banana.
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2010, 02:58:09 PM »
The new Max is actually pretty cool. Shhhh don't tell anybody. O0
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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2010, 03:01:38 PM »
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Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Cuz I didn't really have any major problems to begin with.

Dam, see that?
It is statements like these that lead me to believe you are not being very truthful with the readers here Anne.
...

I see exactly what your saying Whoot, she has not been very accurate with her story either. If you remember she posted she was the lightweight of the group, then she also posted that she was involved with hard narcotics (to assume smack/dope), well I asked her about this a few weeks ago and she ran from the question like it was the plague.

Excuse me???? Citation please.  I was the lightweight of my group of friends in high school.  The ones who were doing heavier drugs didn't get sent away and led a very successful adult life after high school.   The only drugs I did before entering Straight were pot, alcohol and unknowingly a quaalude.  Long after graduating Straight I did get hooked on opiates after two jaw surgeries (jaw was locking open literally every day for about 5 years before insurance would cover surgery that fixed it) and a lumbar surgery.  There is a difference.

So you were prone to drug addiction, Anne.  Your parents and the program rescued you from this path you were heading down and educated you on the dangers of drugs and alcohol.  After the program you were free to make your own choice and you chose the dark path even though you knew it was self destructive.  This went counter to your teachings and showed your parents were right in sending you.
As far as the jaw and lumbar I dont know how they are connected in to all of this.



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Exactly what I was saying.  Any sign, no matter how small, that indicates you might do any drugs, knowingly or unknowingly, is a sure sign to a good parent that you should be sent to a program to arrest that possibility.  Straight rescued you, Anne.  Then, as Whooter said, just because you didn't like their methods, you bash them.  How's that for gratitude, huh?  I think Whooter has said before that as soon as he caught his kid stealing his pot and pills he sent him to a program right away.  He knew the kid was going to self destruct and he stopped it cold.  That's what a good parent does, Anne.  What a bunch of ingrates here.
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Re: Max Is Being Censored
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2010, 03:12:20 PM »
Well, I've been shuffled off the main forum to the OFFA.  Great.
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Re: Max Is Being Censored
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2010, 03:17:09 PM »
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Well, I've been shuffled off the main forum to the OFFA.  Great.


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Re: Max Is Being Censored
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2010, 03:19:30 PM »
It's not funny, Botched.  This is how us pro-program people are treated here on Fornits.  Stick us in the OFFA so nobody will take us seriously anymore.  That's just wrong.
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Re: Max Is Being Censored
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2010, 03:24:43 PM »
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It's not funny, Botched.  This is how us pro-program people are treated here on Fornits.  Stick us in the OFFA so nobody will take us seriously anymore.  That's just wrong.


    :seg: So how is that working out for you guys ??  :roflmao:  


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Offline Anne Bonney

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Re: Post your favorite thing about programs
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2010, 04:26:58 PM »
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So you were prone to drug addiction, Anne.

Why?  Because I smoked a few joints and had a few beers?  Wow.

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After the program you were free to make your own choice and you chose the dark path even though you knew it was self destructive.


No, I was physically addicted to opiates after being medically treated for legitimate injuries.  I didn't just go out and start using percocet for fun.

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As far as the jaw and lumbar I dont know how they are connected in to all of this.

Read the explanation above.
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