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« on: October 02, 2003, 07:53:00 PM »
WWASPS and ARNOLD - what's the relationship?

WWASPS is a big target
ARNOLD is a big target

WWASPS has teens crying abuse.
ARNOLD has women crying abuse.

WWASPS may be the best choice if you need intervention and healing for your family.
ARNOLD may be the best choice if you need intervention and healing in California.

WWASPS says it's not perfect
ARNOLD says he's not perfect

Both have others that want what they have and will say anything to discredit them.

Neither claim to be something they're not.

Not everyone agrees with what they stand for.

WWASPS has never had a confirmed case of abuse.
ARNOLD has never had a confirmed case of abuse.

WWASPS has had negative news articles written about them.
ARNOLD has had negative news articles written about him.

WWASPS was dragged through the mud by Inside Edition and People Magazine.
ARNOLD was dragged through the mud by Inside Edition and People Magazine.

Okay - so I'm just bored right now - My bad. :razz:
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 10:26:00 PM »
Yeah, well at least ARNOLD admits he has made mistakes in the past and has apologized for his actions on national television.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2003, 10:38:00 PM »
Nobody's given WWASPS the opportunity to admit mistakes - or they have and it wasn't acknowledged...Like it was said - Nobody's perfect but my experience of wwasps is they learn from mistakes (what works and doesn't work)...and have become better than ever for it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 12:33:00 AM »
Allegations alone don?t close down 8 programs. Please don?t say they were voluntarily closed down, because we all know that they closed because they had no other option.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 01:12:00 AM »
We do?
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 03:25:00 PM »
Think about it this way:  if you had a multi-site program and you were under investigation in one state and knew you couldn't beat the rap, would you wait to be tried for it and convicted, or close first and cite "financial reasons" or "insurance problems" or "disgruntled employees"?

If you wait to be tried, you risk losing it all-- if you close first, then you can make up your own explanation to keep the $$$ rolling in in other states.

Every multi-site abusive program has shut individual sites first when investigators had something on them.  Straight did it, KIDS did it, now WWASP is doing it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2003, 03:59:00 PM »
Several links can be found at http://www.democracynow.org
covering issues of Arnold's sexual abuse, racism and his father's Nazi ties.  Scroll down the right column until you see "The California Recall"
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2003, 05:39:00 PM »
What is this...a bunch of folks that have no "Past?"
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2003, 07:47:00 PM »
Is that one of those snide remarks WWASPies make when someone has trouble thinking of a sordid story from their own life that relates to the rap topic? Just curious. In Straight it would be something like "you're in denial about your past" or "you're hanging onto your past and not getting honest." Maybe they've made the lingo more efficient by now? Is that how they've learned from past experience?



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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2003, 10:04:00 PM »
Anon,  

"Your eperience of WWASP is that they learn from their mistakes."You must be drunk on the koolaide.

If I wasn't privy to the facts that I know about wwasp and how they treat the kids in their care,how they run their business that sentence could maybe be considered. It's NOT. WWASP does what it intends to do. Never was a mistake made. Deliberate,intentional,instructed by the directors.

I see the saddness in my child's eyes when the subject of WWASP comes into the conversation and my heart hurts. Howe dare you minimize the ugliness WWASP really does to the kids.The sexual predators at TB was no mistake.  Fuck you.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2003, 01:41:00 PM »
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On 2003-10-03 19:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anon,  



"Your eperience of WWASP is that they learn from their mistakes."You must be drunk on the koolaide.



If I wasn't privy to the facts that I know about wwasp and how they treat the kids in their care,how they run their business that sentence could maybe be considered. It's NOT. WWASP does what it intends to do. Never was a mistake made. Deliberate,intentional,instructed by the directors.



I see the saddness in my child's eyes when the subject of WWASP comes into the conversation and my heart hurts. Howe dare you minimize the ugliness WWASP really does to the kids.The sexual predators at TB was no mistake.  Fuck you.

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Given the inherent risk, sending kids out of the U.S. for treatment is not a good idea, but it seems many parents over-rule their better judgment and do it anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2003, 06:23:00 PM »
Well at least Arnold will never be president. That well can all be thankful for, and I for one do not live in Cali myself so he will not be affecting me directly (bad bad I should be more global)

I would vote for the stripper who wants to tax implants I think that is a great idea!!

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2003, 01:37:00 AM »
Congratulations ARNOLD!!!!  Seems the allegations reported in the newspapers and on TV shows that people don't believe everything they hear or read!!!!!!!!!!!!

YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2003, 10:58:00 AM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 17:39 ]
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2003, 11:30:00 AM »
Anon,

It was never my intent to send my child out of the country. He was enrolled at SCL for their "ACADEMIC excellance." SCL family rep ,director,therapist worked me for months to send my "noncompliant" child to TB. Ken Kay assured me he would be safe.

Many times by many different people I was assured Jamaica was safe.How loving the staff is toward our kids etc etc etc.

I now know those people had an agenda over and above the concern for my child or myself.

I trusted the untrustworthy.

I never thought to contact the DOS to inquire.

THEY harmed my son,not I. I was negligent is trusting people I was paying a huge aount of money who claimed they were a Speciality school.
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