New Fornits Rules/Constitution [Ratified]

[RobertBruce]

As I said, I believe many folks here who have been posting for years will be in for a big surprise. Your actions will no longer be tolerated. I have always wanted fairness, I believe it is coming and not the way many of you think.
Goading members into a fight for the sake of banishment will not be tolerated and using your status or position to ban someone will not be tolerated.
Just remember, "Damn straight. Fuck all the bullshit." is not exactly what the admins had in mind when they went ahead and made these changes, there is a larger vision here.

It's exactly because of posters like you that these new rules came about. You thrive on attempting to attack other posters and deflecting your own issues onto others. I doubt you'll last long under the new rules.

[SEKTO]

The admins of the site have had every opportunity to do something positive to combat the trolls and other nuisances that have infested the threads, and yet seem to spend an inordinate amount of time engaging in a lot of fruitless discussion and "meaningless debate," as Che so aptly put it.  Finally we see some action, instead of just talk.  Now, if we can stick to the mission we might actually achieve something worth achieving.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

Just noticed that the wiki seems to have the moderation that most of the people here are really looking for, and a lot of empty discussion pages.

[DannyB II]

The admins of the site have had every opportunity to do something positive to combat the trolls and other nuisances that have infested the threads, and yet seem to spend an inordinate amount of time engaging in a lot of fruitless discussion and "meaningless debate," as Che so aptly put it.  Finally we see some action, instead of just talk.  Now, if we can stick to the mission we might actually achieve something worth achieving.

I can only hope that your vision of a Web Site never comes to fruition, as PODK's so aptly put the WIKI discussion board is dead, a few forums here are dead due to abusive people overseeing them. Owning a Web Site that allows various views is always a challenge, people have to accept your views are not always the moral righteous ones. People who have folks who disagree with them have to accept that they are not trolls, liars, cheats, misguided fools, troublemakers, derailers, fruitless debators and all the other condescending names "you"   can call them. This is actually bordering on attacking, since the person you mentioned and yourself  (who so aptly said something) are very fond of some of the said abuses if not all.

[SEKTO]

Just noticed that the wiki seems to have the moderation that most of the people here are really looking for, and a lot of empty discussion pages.

Well, here's to turning over a new leaf.  Peace be upon you, Danny.

[DannyB II]

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[DannyB II]

Just noticed that the wiki seems to have the moderation that most of the people here are really looking for, and a lot of empty discussion pages.

Well, here's to turning over a new leaf.  Peace be upon you, Danny.

May you have much peace here, SEKTO.

[RobertBruce]

No one is attacking you Danny, I'm just being honest.

[psy]

Robert, stop attacking me, please.

Disagreeing is not attacking.  This is attacking.

[DannyB II]

Robert, stop attacking me, please.

Disagreeing is not attacking.  This is attacking.

WoW, I have to agree with you there.
If I may say something, there can be a disagreement about whatever Psy, decides. Can we at least agree to not fight every battle so as to loose the war (so to speak), Ajax. I know you are probably looking at me and thinking I am a hypocrite that may be true but at least I know when to say "uncle".
Lets give Psy, some latitude to be human.

[DannyB II]

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[SEKTO]

Because these new rules are going to be nothing more than an ongoing source of drama for a select few forum drama queens who are going to want to undermine them through forcing you to apply them.

What Che was writing of in this post, is precisely what is happening now.

[Evil WWASP]

I say the following without insult intended. I feel the new rules are not being well applied. I saw Ajax was banned, though he is one of the few posters who contributes anything other than troll threads, flame wars, aa spew, etc. and general stupidity. His posts were in the appropriate forum, and, as such, not really misleading. If he's banned, why not John Reuben (aka whooter, it is said) for bringing up CEDU in a non CEDU thread? Why not that poster who threatened to decapitate Ajax?

 Perhaps fornits will maintain the status quo of being a troll overrun site, plus unnecessary censorship, now?

[psy]

I say the following without insult intended. I feel the new rules are not being well applied. I saw Ajax was banned, though he is one of the few posters who contributes anything other than troll threads, flame wars, aa spew, etc. and general stupidity. His posts were in the appropriate forum, and, as such, not really misleading. If he's banned, why not John Reuben (aka whooter, it is said) for bringing up CEDU in a non CEDU thread? Why not that poster who threatened to decapitate Ajax?

Read his threads and my justification.  They had nothing at all do do with the titles.  I'm not going to play favorites.  Ajax violated the rules, was warned repeatedly, and refused to stop.  It's only a 7 day ban anyway.  If I allow him to do what he did I have to allow people to come on here and post penis enlargement information with TTI titles (happened earlier this year).  I intend on applying the rules not selectively, or subjectively, but universally and objectively.  I'll be sure to warn people before banning as I did with ajax (multiple times):

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=31142#p378507

It's the final decision.  Change the title, or get your thread moved to OFFA.  Continue after that and get a warning.  Continue after that and get banned.  I'm very serious about enforcing the rules no matter who is the offender.

If Whooter derailed a thread or Ajax was threatened (after the rules were ratified), let me know via PM or use the report function.  However if the posts were created prior to the establishment of these rules I'm not going to do anything as i've already said I won't be enforcing the rules retroactively.

[Whooter]

I say the following without insult intended. I feel the new rules are not being well applied. I saw Ajax was banned, though he is one of the few posters who contributes anything other than troll threads, flame wars, aa spew, etc. and general stupidity. His posts were in the appropriate forum, and, as such, not really misleading. If he's banned, why not John Reuben (aka whooter, it is said) for bringing up CEDU in a non CEDU thread? Why not that poster who threatened to decapitate Ajax?

 Perhaps fornits will maintain the status quo of being a troll overrun site, plus unnecessary censorship, now?

Evil WWASP,  just to clear things up my name is not John Reuben.   If you are sincere about not intending to insult anyone then I would appreciate it if you addressed me by my user name.  I intend to extend the same courtesy to other posters here on fornits myself.



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