Michael Perry - Death Row

[Anonymous]

The jurors are party to a murder, just because a system of rules says a murder is acceptable does not make it so. If you express beliefs such as mine, you are not even eligible to be on a jury for a death penalty case.

[BuzzKill]

//Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but is murdering a young man acceptable to you? //

I was clear I didn't want to see him killed by the state of TX.

///At the hospital after a trip in the ambulace with the police he was bloody and clearly beaten... so... ///

Yes, I know. But he had also just come from crashing a truck through a plate glass store front. This might account for his battered appearance - don't you think?

///Michael is no psycho.. ///

I happen to believe he is probably a psychopath - or sociopath - what ever they are calling it now a days, when a person uses others shamelessly, and has no feelings or empathy for others.

/// is a sweet boy with a terrible past.. ///

I know he can come across as a sweet kid. So could Ted Bundy or any number of others who have committed horrible crimes. Hells Bells - even Jeffery Dalhmer seemed like a sweet kid - and a nice guy.

///but he doesn't deserve to be locked up for the rest of his life just cause he has problems..///

No - but he dose deserve to be locked up for life, for triple murder.

What he did was extremely horrible - and the evidence shows he is in fact guilty. He was driving the Dead Woman's Car when he was pulled over and taken to jail. He had her dead grand son's wallet and ID on him - and allowed himself to be booked under that kids name. He gave a perfect description of the crime scene and the victims wounds in his confession - not something he could accomplish had he not "been there and done that".  

He and his buddy decided they wanted that poor woman's car, and they were willing to murder her, and anyone else deemed necessary to get it. I am sorry - but spending time in Casa by the Sea is no excuse for such actions.

He is a very dangerous man and he should never be free in society again. But, I do hope TX will commute his sentence to Life.

[Justice]

Well, at the risk of utterly wasting my breath, I want to address some of the things Buzzkill posted.

1. News Channel ABC 13 has video taken after the car accident that shows Michael substantially injury free. Yet, 53 minutes later, photos taken at the hospital depict him with serious bruising around his neck. Furthermore, the nurse at the jail refused to book Michael due to a severe head injury that she noted in her report as resulting from "police interaction." Yes, Michael was in the car when JASON drove it through a window. It was 5:00am in the morning and he was asleep. But the evidence shows that hs injuries occurred AFTER the accident. [Note--it took the ambulance 53 minutes to go 13 miles . . . I wonder why]

2. Yes, Michael was arrested driving the stolen car. But the last time I checked, driving a stolen car does not make a person a murderer. JASON gave him the car. And there was an ID belonging to the victim's son IN THE CAR, but it was not on Michael's person.

3. As far as the "confession" goes, perhaps the reason the confession is so detailed is because the police ADMITTED on the stand that Michael didn't write it--the INVESTIGATOR wrote it, Michael just signed his name. The same investigator who knew all the details himself because he had been at the crime scene just days earlier. So, maybe that explains why the "confession" has details in it that only someone who had been at the scene could know--because someone who had been at the scene wrote it--the COP.  

Michael is not a psychopath or a sociopath (and the current correct DSM-IV term is "anti-social"). He is neither clinically anti-social, nor is he a psychopath in the lay sense of the term. He does not deserve to be murdered by the state and he would be an asset to society should he win his appeal. And before anyone decides to advise me that I am naive, I just want it to be crystal clear that not only have I read EVERY SINGLE document pertaining to his case (and that of his co-defendant), but I also know Michael personally.  

I would suggest anyone who wants to make blanket statements about the "facts" go get a copy of the trial transcript and read it. It is public record.

[BuzzKill]

Not a waste of breath at all. Its something to talk about.

I have not seen the video. I have only been told about it by Michael. Have you seen it? Is it clear and shot in good light, where you can get a good idea of his actual condition? I know about the nurses note. But I feel that "police intervention" could easily refer to the car chase and crash; because there was a car chase and then the crash - and a cop was actually run down by Jason, who as you say, was driving. All can fairly be called police interaction or intervention.

I don't know why the ambulance took so long - but several possibilities come to mind that have nothing to do with beating the kid up. All that being said - I don't doubt he may well have been slapped around. I can see it happening real easy. I just don't think it has anything much to do with his confession. If it happened, it happened because of the chase and crash and shooting at the cops and running one over; as opposed to trying to beat a confession out of him.

As for the cop writing it out -  this in an of itself, is not unusual. The confessing person dictates and a cop writes. I would expect the session was also recorded. I asked Michael once, if it was recorded or not - because if not - this argument of yours might hold water. He ignored the question. I expect the session was recorded and probably taped. I expect what's in the confession is what Michael said all right. I expect the state can prove it.

You know - Michael told me Jason gave him the car. But what dose that have to do with his alibi? The point is - the woman was dead when he was arrested. So were the two boys. His "alibi" of being in jail when she was murdered is blown out of the water by the fact he was driving her car. She was dead when he was arrested. Don't you think?

I asked him once - so how did Jason happen to have her car before she was dead?  He told me, maybe she had loaned it to him.  I find that beyond belief. I just dose not seem at all credible that this woman would loan this Jason kid her Camaro. Its ridiculous.  Besides which - she was murdered - and according to Michael's original story, she was murdered for her car.

There was also his confession to the nurse at the hospital. According to her, when she asked him what happened, he told her "I shot some woman". According to her, he was laughing about it. Maybe its a lie on her part. But if so, you'd have to wonder why she'd make it up.  

/// He is neither clinically anti-social, nor is he a psychopath in the lay sense of the term. ///

Has he had a psyc eval and personality test that you know of? He told me he had never had either -  and if that's so, then we are both guessing.

///he would be an asset to society should he win his appeal.///

How so? Not arguing - asking - how?

///get a copy of the trial transcript and read it. It is public record.///

I'd love to have a copy to read - but transcripts are very costly. Do you have a copy? Could you get it scanned onto a CD for posting on the net? Would you? We could put it up on his web site.

The thing is - if his trial was in any way unfair, I hope he gets a new trial. If the confession is as faulty as you say then a higher court will no doubt toss it. But to pin his hopes on this false pretence of an alibi is foolish. It dose not hold up to factual scrutiny.

Whether or not he can get a new trial - I'd like to see his sentence commuted to life - but again - to try and say this boy is innocent is  (in my mind) very foolish. Frankly, I do not think you people are doing him any favors encouraging and  allowing him to continue in this fantasy.

[ladylinn]

I know Michael is innocent.. Have you ever thought he actually could be? And I have to ask.. do you see yourself as a friend of Michael's??

[Anonymous]

I know Michael is innocent.. Have you ever thought he actually could be? And I have to ask.. do you see yourself as a friend of Michael's??

Yes Linn. I was at one time very upset by his conviction - because I believed he was in jail when Mrs. Stoller was killed.

I once believed his time in Casa By the Sea would predispose him to making a false confession.

Then I learned he was driving Mrs Stoller's car when he was arrested and taken in.  This devastates his claim to be allibied by the jail time. She was dead when he was arrested. That's all there is to it.

I haven't had access to his full confession, but I have read the bits quoted by the papers - and I have to say after that, I felt the confession was a genuine, first hand account of what happened. I no longer believe there is anything false about it. I think he knew he was caught; he was separated from his buddy Jason; and he spilled his guts.

You do know he is the one who took the cops to where the dead boys were left, don't you? He knew where to find them - he was there when they were killed. I have not the slightest doubt he was also present when Mrs. Stoller was shot - and that he shot her - as he described.

I was struck by the fact that Michael likes to talk about the one shoe print they never found a match for. And when he was arrested he was bare footed. Makes me wonder if this was because he had tossed out the shoes. Maybe he saw the blood on them and so got rid of them - and then went bare footed. Its just something I wonder about.

It is interesting to me that Michael hadn't lied about anything - but that he practiced a great deal of data drop out - telling only what makes him look good, and omitting what tends to make him look guilty. Those omissions, in my mind, make him look very guilty indeed. It seems to me to show a consciousness of guilt, and an attempt to deceive.

I can't say I consider him a friend. But this doesn't mean I have no compassion for him - even as I think him guilty of such a crime.

I do honestly feel you (unintentionally) are doing him more harm than good. I hope his legal team is more honest and realistic with him. I have wondered if that's why he has gone though several.

[ladylinn]

Well.. pretty clear what you think of Michael..
Kinda feel sorry for you right now.. but one day you will know the truth and when you do, don't be too hard on yourself for what you just wrote..

[BuzzKill]

Well.. pretty clear what you think of Michael..
Kinda feel sorry for you right now.. but one day you will know the truth and when you do, don't be too hard on yourself for what you just wrote..

Ditto.

Let me ask you something . . .
Other than thinking Perry a "sweet boy" who has had a sad life - why is it you are so sure he is innocent? You say:  I know Michael is innocent - How? How can you *know* any such thing?

Are you not at all troubled by the fact he has withheld so much about the circumstances of his two arrest? Are you not at all troubled that he was driving the murdered woman's car when he was arrested, for what he insist is a alibi jail stay? That he has in his possision the dead boy's wallet, and alowed the cops to book him under the dead boy's name? Does it not give you pause, that he took the cops to the dead boy's bodies, and explained with such detail how it all went down? IMO, No cop making up a confession for him could come up with all the little details about what they were thinking, and how they carried it out.  If the cop had just wrote it out, with no input from Michael, it would be a bare bones account, devoid of the richness of all those details. Does this not trouble you at all?

All you have had to say is what a sweet boy Michael is - what if your wrong? What if he is instead a good actor telling you what you want to hear? How would you know?

[nimdA]

As a reality check you all do remember you arguing over someone who more than likely will be strapped into an electric chair and electricuted to death right?


Try not to loose sight of that in yalls hagglings.

[BuzzKill]

Rest assured TSW - this sad fact has not been forgotten. I think in TX it is an injection - but no - I am sure we are both acutely aware of this reality. Altho - I suspect the lady, being so sure of his innocence, holds onto the dream he will be aquited in a new trial.

[nimdA]

Roger.  Sad deal all around. I'm going to write the kid a letter. Is it possible to send him souvenirs from Korea?

[BuzzKill]

On his web site there are directions as to what you can send, and how.

[nimdA]

Umm which one is that?

[nimdA]

Oh yeah.. the one posted on page 1. Got it. I'll try to get something in the outgoing post before week's end.

[Anonymous]

If you really believe this boy is guilty then what's the point of sending him letters. Dont you feel that he is just trying to manipulate your feelings to do his legwork on the outside?  I dont mean to sound harsh, but just because a kid went to Casa doesn't make them innocent and if he really is guilty this sure is a lot of misplaced sympathy here.