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The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« on: August 23, 2010, 12:05:13 PM »
This thread will be dedicated to exposing Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases for who and what he really is - a program shill and child abuse apologist.  

My hope is that a simple archive can be built here and whenever Whooter/Aliases post, people can simply link back here to this thread so the uninitiated can see how Whooter behaves and see relevent facts about his identity here at Fornits.

What I'd like to see is a definitive collection of quotes and links that show Whooter's true essence.  Keep in mind that Whooter claims to be "just a regular parent" but in the past five years he has amassed more posts than any other poster on Fornits, save for Antigen, the site owner.

I'll start off with a timeless classic and the rest of you can begin fleshing out this topic.  Please don't forget to link to Whooter's posts to support your POV.  Please, if Whooter responds in this thread, do not respond to him.  I will explain my reasoning at a later time.  Thanks.

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
This is the plain and simple statement, written by Whooter, that has set off this spate of trolling due to its reposting by me:

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Guest""
When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.



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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?


I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as Tipping

Whooter made this statement several years ago and subsequently auctioned off his account, rendering him unable to change this information he wants nobody to see.  The fact is that he said it of his own volition and was bragging about it.  

The problem is that if everyone knows about this fiduciary duty, Whooter feels like five years of his time here posing as "just a regular parent" have been wasted, and indeed they are.

When I started quoting this post and linking to it, Whooter got increasingly more upset and now spends all day every day being my personal troll in various guises: Whooter, SUCK IT, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, John McCain, et al.

My purpose in quoting this damning statement is twofold: one, it exposes Whooter for who and what he really is, a figure whose income is derived from Aspen Education; and two, to draw him out of his carefully crafted image to expose him for the desperate Aspen Education troll he is.  Both objectives are complete.

Watch as Whooter logs in and out with his various sockpuppets, accusing me of abusing and raping children because he has been definitively linked to Aspen Education and its systemic abuse problems.  It's interesting to note also that Whooter accuses me of the very things that Aspen Education programs have been being shut down for recently. He is simply trying to project qualities onto me that have been legally proven against Aspen Education.

Industry people always squeal the loudest when they've been stuck in the wallet.  Look at this piggy squeal.

This is a desperate troll, folks.  Whooter/SUCK IT/et al is an exemplar of the people to whom you might have entrusted your child's welfare at Aspen Education programs.  If their marketing people behave this way, doesn't that provide a window into their corporate culture and strategy, as Ed Con Tom Croake recently exposed on his FamilyLights website?  Even Ed Cons who make their living referring kids to Aspen are turning on it due to their recent spate of killings, abuse and neglect resulting in facility closures. This is how Aspen Education employees behave in public.  Now just imagine how they behave in private, behind closed doors, alone with your child.  Think about that for a while.

Caveat emptor, parents.

Link to Whooter's "Fiduciary  Duty" post

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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 12:14:11 PM »
Here Whooter admits to phonying up posts from others:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Why do you make things up to deceive the readers?

Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .
….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?
Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?
FOR THE RECORD: the above quote by me was copied, edited and pasted from another of my posts, originally addressed to Whooter, that designation having been neatly lopped off by Whooter himself. It would appear that this kind of posting behavior functions as a means of perpetrating more of his myths, in this case to intimate the lessened credibility of other posters.

Here is another time that he tried this.

Ya gotta wonder whether he also uses this tactic to intimidate other posters from chiming in, not to mention derail and/or kill conversation in key threads, confusing the naive reader in the process...

We all agreed, at the time, that this was justified because of the double standard that Ursus set-up.



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So, because Whooter believes Ursus "set up a double standard" he thinks it OK to slander me, going as far as to call me a "child rapist"?  This person exhibits some strange and disturbing ideations about "fair play."

Link to Whooter's rationalization of slander
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 12:31:23 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
We all agreed, at the time, that this was justified because of the double standard that Ursus set-up.
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
So, because Whooter believes Ursus "set up a double standard" he thinks it OK to slander me, going as far as to call me a "child rapist"? This person exhibits some strange and disturbing ideations about "fair play."
Well, one thing that is certainly a mystery to *me*, at least, is exactly what this "double standard" is that I allegedly "set up," not to mention how, in fact, I could have facilitated such a thing!  :rofl:
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 12:45:03 PM »
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
......he thinks it OK to slander me, going as far as to call me a "child rapist"? This person exhibits some strange and disturbing ideations about "fair play."
….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Dysfunction Junction can rarely produce any links to his claims.  I asked him earlier and he ran away.  Lets see if he can provide the link where I said this.  Once again it should be interesting.



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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 12:48:04 PM »
You did say it, Whooter. I remember reading it.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 12:58:42 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
The reason is that I am a firm believer that those who work day and night solely to discredit others on an open forum usually have many skeletons in their own closet and always slip up as I showed you today.

Here Whooter completely invalidates himself.  Since Whooter "works day and night trying to discredit other posters" he therefore has many "skeletons in his closet."

Whooter is a phony hypocrite in all respects.

Reminder: Don't reply to Whooter.  Just post quotes and links to his inanities. This will be expalined later.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 01:05:53 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"

Whooter is the glossy brochure, while his other usernames (Mitt Romney, SUCK IT, Al Gore, Sarah Palin, RobertBruce ., Queef, John McCain, etc. ad nauseum) are the thugs that actually get their hands on your children.


People logging in under numerous usernames appears to continue to be a source of heartburn for you, Dysfunction Junction.  If this is so unsettling to you the fornits admins may be able to change the rules to your liking so that each user can only be assigned one user name.  But I don’t have control over that.

I can tell you that of the list of usernames that you laid out above, some are mine and some are not.  


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Here Whooter admits to using various login names as sockpuppets to support his agenda and to attack other posters who don't agree with him.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 01:08:02 PM »
An entire thread in which Whooter gets caught in many inextricable lies.

This thread shows him using Fornits as a source to gain referrals for Aspen Education.  Not exactly what a "regular parent" would do, eh?
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 01:17:45 PM »
Here Whooter cops to his massive ego:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Myself, I am different, I dont have anything to be insecure about because I have a very large ego.

This giant ego is what drives him here.  He never admits he's wrong, derails threads when he's exposed and even goes as far as to "out" program kids by name and discuss their "issues" he claims to have gotten from their treatment records at HLA.  

"Just a regular parent"?  Hardly.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 01:22:41 PM »
This thread is a monument (or garbage pile, depending on your POV) to Whooter.  In it he posted 854 times as "TheWho" to feed his aforementioned massive ego.

TheWho's garbage pile.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 01:25:35 PM »
Quote from: "TheWho"
Psy Wrote:
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Schools exist for the benefit of the customers, and customers have a right to demand accountability and oversight. They shouldn't have to ultimately... that's what state regulation is supposed to be for: so there is some authority making sure the kids aren't being abused, and their human rights are being respected.

Exactly, The customer is the parent, the product is the child.  The schools will respond primarily/initially to the needs of the parent not the child...

Here Whooter admits that programs don't respond to children's needs, but rather parents' needs.  He goes on to say"children are products," a very telling statement about his true beliefs.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 01:28:53 PM »
In this example of Whooter's employment at programs he admits to being part of the screening process for intakes at the program:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
That's funny.  Spoken like a person who has never seen the inside of a program business office...

Mothball an empty bed?  You're unhinged.  The program motto is "Heads in beds and asses in chairs."  I've heard this verbatim many times.  Empty beds means empty accounts.  That's definitley not how they operate.

Its okay if you disagree,DJ, I happen to know differently.  This may have been the way in the programs you worked in.

I have seen the screening process and seen kids being rejected and the program moved forward with a lighter peer group.  They could have easily accepted one of those other kids for a few months until they filled the slot, but they didnt.



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I wonder how "just a regular parent" was soo intimately involved in the program's intake procedures?  Soemthing fishy there, huh?
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 01:40:51 PM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
In this example of Whooter's employment at programs he admits to being part of the screening process for intakes at the program:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
That's funny.  Spoken like a person who has never seen the inside of a program business office...

Mothball an empty bed?  You're unhinged.  The program motto is "Heads in beds and asses in chairs."  I've heard this verbatim many times.  Empty beds means empty accounts.  That's definitley not how they operate.

Its okay if you disagree,DJ, I happen to know differently.  This may have been the way in the programs you worked in.

I have seen the screening process and seen kids being rejected and the program moved forward with a lighter peer group.  They could have easily accepted one of those other kids for a few months until they filled the slot, but they didnt.



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I wonder how "just a regular parent" was soo intimately involved in the program's intake procedures?  Soemthing fishy there, huh?


Ayup......just a simple program parent.  No relation whatsoever to programs themselves.  No relation whatsoever to Ed Cons and their ilk.  No "fiduciary responsibility" to programs.  Nothing to see here, move along people.

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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 02:10:11 PM »
Here Whooter, the ignoramus, trying to appear smart, gets pinched plagiarizing a Stanford professor and passing off the commentary as his own philosophical production.

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Whooter (kind of)"
The relevant capacity qualifying children for possession of rights is that of the ability to choose. Children in general lack certain cognitive abilities—to acquire and to process information in an ordered fashion, to form consistent and stable beliefs, to appreciate the significance of options and their consequences. Children can be great risk takers...

Just in case anyone thought Whooter grew a brain and could miraculously talk intelligently on child rights, he plagiarized a Stanford website.  Of course, he didn't cite his source.  He tried to pass it off as his own work.  I believe Ajax13 hit this on the head when he called Whooter "stupid and lazy."  Alas, it's true, Ajax13.  Good point.

Link to Whooter's Plagiarization

Quote from: "Whooter"
I stand by all my posts, Joel.

Because they were written by academics who know what they're talking about.   :rofl: Whooter, OTOH, is a run-of-the-mill dumbass.
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Re: The Truth About Whooter/TheWho/Other Aliases
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2010, 02:12:00 PM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Whooter (kind of)"
The relevant capacity qualifying children for possession of rights is that of the ability to choose. Children in general lack certain cognitive abilities—to acquire and to process information in an ordered fashion, to form consistent and stable beliefs, to appreciate the significance of options and their consequences. Children can be great risk takers...

Just in case anyone thought Whooter grew a brain and could miraculously talk intelligently on child rights, he plagiarized a Stanford website.  Of course, he didn't cite his source.  He tried to pass it off as his own work.  I believe Ajax13 hit this on the head when he called Whooter "stupid and lazy."  Alas, it's true, Ajax13.  Good point.

Link to Whooter's Plagiarization

Quote from: "Whooter"
I stand by all my posts, Joel.

Because they were written by academics who know what they're talking about.   :rofl: Whooter, OTOH, is a run-of-the-mill dumbass.


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


Son or daughter Whooter?
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