I'm still here

[Evil WWASP]

Again, Whooter we can agree or disagree with who belongs. I am simply nostalgic for another time here that passed. There were programmies at that time as well, so you can't tell me it's all about one sidedness.

But once again, you have purposely aligned me with an act that I protested and had nothing. You have flooded other threads with your KNOWN lies. This is indicative of your bad character. You are a liar and a defamer. I feel sorry  for your family and your newborn son. Have you selected the program you intend to send him to yet?

Newborn son? He only has two sons; both with over 18 years of life behind them, one is living and there's one he murdered. John D Reuben's his name, murdering his own sons is his game. Or do you know soemthing I don't? Please share.

[Troll Control]

Immature brand of humor?  You call people who disagree with you "child rapist."  You, SUCK IT, are a sick bastard, no matter how you cut it up or parse it.  You're the worst of the bunch here.

I'm sure you'll get over it eventually.

I already have.  But you'll never live it down.  People know what type of scum you are.  You are the worst of the worst here.  Bottom of the cesspool.  I thought your program "helped" you?  If you're an exemplar of the mentally ill walking wounded they turn out people should take note.

[Evil WWASP]

I already have.  But you'll never live it down.  People know what type of scum you are.  You are the worst of the worst here.  Bottom of the cesspool.

Did you see the cartoon it made of you. It was really intricate. It must have taken 3 hours to create. She deleted it after she posted it. I should have Q it FT. Insane.

Why'd you take down your DJ cartoon Suckit?

[SUCK IT]

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[Whooter]

Again, Whooter we can agree or disagree with who belongs. I am simply nostalgic for another time here that passed. There were programmies at that time as well, so you can't tell me it's all about one sidedness.

But once again, you have purposely aligned me with an act that I protested and had nothing. You have flooded other threads with your KNOWN lies. This is indicative of your bad character. You are a liar and a defamer. I feel sorry  for your family and your newborn son. Have you selected the program you intend to send him to yet?

I have not done any flooding.  I have posted against Dysfunction Junction Toe to Toe to give him a taste of his own medicine.  I havent seen you protest his actions or the fact he posted another persons personal information.  These things apparently are okay with you.  Personally I feel it is one of the worse things a poster can do but since he is anti-program like yourself the rules dont apply.

Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave.. would you stay silent like you do with DJ and say "Oh well"?  

When you choose to ignore this type of action it speak much about you and what you stand for, so dont pretend that you really care about anyone except yourself,Samara.



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[Troll Control]

He was banned for flooding.  He's a liar.  "Toe to toe" means I post his quotes with links to the originals and he picks up where SUCK IT left off and calls me a "child rapist" and fabricates literally hundreds of quotes trying to pass them off as me.  He doesn't like to be exposed in his own words so he just lies and lies and lies and calls nasty names.

Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave..

That's exactly what he did to RB.  Even claimed he had RBs treatment records from HLA and that RB had "gay issues" and problems with "dog fucking."  Don't let him fool you, Samara.  He is as sick as they come and lives his whole life by a double standard.

[Whooter]

He was banned for flooding.  He's a liar.  "Toe to toe" means I post his quotes with links to the originals and he picks up where SUCK IT left off and calls me a "child rapist" and fabricates literally hundreds of quotes trying to pass them off as me.  He doesn't like to be exposed in his own words so he just lies and lies and lies and calls nasty names.

Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave..

That's exactly what he did to RB.  Even claimed he had RBs treatment records from HLA and that RB had "gay issues" and problems with "dog fucking."  Don't let him fool you, Samara.  He is as sick as they come and lives his whole life by a double standard.

Let Samara decide for him/herself,  I can provide links to original posts.  Yours are all lies, DJ.:

Then ask your friend DJ if it is okay to post peoples personal information on the forum and place them in danger like they did to Morgan.  This happened today take a look:

Link

You only see what you want to.


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[shaggys]

I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.

[Evil WWASP]

I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.

Its a program parent.

And since John David Reuben "whooter" was banned, please enforce that ban.

Edit:

Suck it deleted it's post in where it confirmed it made an intricate cartoon of DJ. Why would she do that?
Didn't they teach you to be honest in those EST seminars?

[SUCK IT]

Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.

My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am. People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever. I will continue to post here and share my opinions. I earned my right to my opinions by what I experienced, and the hatred of people here is not going to change this. I know what is true and I am willing to be honest. I refuse to be called your cult terms like "survivor", and spout mindless black and white propaganda, and mythology and conspiracy theories about treatment and posters here. I can see why this has upset the group think cult that has emerged from this supposed "open free for all", a meaningless banner slogan if their ever was one, akin to Arbeit macht frei, since the users here don't respect any opinions contrary to the acceptable cult narrative. Well here I am posting my truth and there is nothing you can do about it. So I guess you're are just going to have to live with it. How you react, is your choice.

[Botched Programming]

Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.

My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am. People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever. I will continue to post here and share my opinions. I earned my right to my opinions by what I experienced, and the hatred of people here is not going to change this. I know what is true and I am willing to be honest. I refuse to be called your cult terms like "survivor", and spout mindless black and white propaganda, and mythology and conspiracy theories about treatment and posters here. I can see why this has upset the group think cult that has emerged from this supposed "open free for all", a meaningless banner slogan if their ever was one, akin to Arbeit macht frei, since the users here don't respect any opinions contrary to the acceptable cult narrative. Well here I am posting my truth and there is nothing you can do about it. So I guess you're are just going to have to live with it. How you react, is your choice.

LIAR LIAR

[Whooter]

I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.

Its a program parent.

And since John David Reuben "whooter" was banned, please enforce that ban.

Edit:

Suck it deleted it's post in where it confirmed it made an intricate cartoon of DJ. Why would she do that?
Didn't they teach you to be honest in those EST seminars?

Then continue on with Pile of Dead Kids for exposing a 15 year old girl (who came to fornits for help) and placing here picture and contact information on a porn site.

Then also Dysfunction junction for posting a survivors name,contact information and  phone number on the open forum because he disagreed with him.



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[psy]

Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.

Two people did that, neither of which ever attended a program.  I too wasn't happy with what happened.  All it does is make parents even more determined that the opposition to programs is unstable.  They don't listen and more kids get sent to programs.  Parents need to be persuaded and talked to calmly, not bulldozed with 4chan style bullshit.  Such things have their place, but not when your'e trying to win people over.

My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am.

No.  You believe it.  In order to prove a program is objectively effective you need a formal independent study with a control group.  Lots of people believe in astrology, or crystals, or body thetans and so on and so forth.  They too swear up and down that their ideologies saved their lives.  Doesn't make it a fact.

Can you prove that if you weren't sent to a WWASP program you would be worse off?  No.  You can't.

People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever.

People may have called you names, but nobody ever blackmailed you.  And you dare accuse others of playing the victim or crying wolf.

What WWASP program were you in, SUCK IT, if you even were in a program?

[SUCK IT]

Two people did that, neither of which ever attended a program.  I too wasn't happy with what happened.  All it does is make parents even more determined that the opposition to programs is unstable.  They don't listen and more kids get sent to programs.  Parents need to be persuaded and talked to calmly, not bulldozed with 4chan style bullshit.  Such things have their place, but not when your'e trying to win people over.

That is why parents with any sense avoid fornits  like the plague. Only the naive and ignorant parents come here looking for advice, that's why it's such a rare occurrence. It doesn't take long for them to learn the true nature of the extremists who post here. Yet you wonder why people like me don't willingly give up more personal info about ourselves, you know, to "help our credibility". Well it's nice you are concerned about my credibility, but I think I have learned the hard way to keep the personal details about myself to a minimum. I have stated I went to a program that has its own forum on this forum, and that's the only information I feel like sharing at this point. Some people might be impressed by your red title and give up information believing in your "trustworthiness", I know better.

No.  You believe it.  In order to prove a program is objectively effective you need a formal independent study with a control group.  Lots of people believe in astrology, or crystals, or body thetans and so on and so forth.  They too swear up and down that their ideologies saved their lives.  Doesn't make it a fact.

Can you prove that if you weren't sent to a WWASP program you would be worse off?  No.  You can't.

I'll take you more seriously when you ask "survivors" for proof when they say they were abused, and studies that prove that programs are all abusive and should be avoided. Until then we have to go on our personal experiences, I have stated that my life was saved by a program and that is true. I can't speak for other people, but I know what happened to me.

[Froderik]

extremists

     Nice buzzword, there, SUCK FEST...

Quite an elaborate charade you had going there.

Too bad it's over.