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ACLU letter to Obama
BuzzKill:
"how did we get to Montana and Boston and Marines, Life protesters, Tea parties being killed."
http://http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf
"I think "anywhere in the world" applies to places where it is not reasonably possible to apprehend (outside western countries in places like rural villages in Pakistan and caves in Afghanistan)."
You are intended to think of this in exactly the manner that you do. Maybe they will exercise great caution; maybe those in the field will be very clearly sure the target is in fact plotting murder and destruction; maybe it will always be a policy used only in regions close the the related combat zones - but that's a lot of maybes and we have no guarantees - especially when dealing with such clear and utter contempt for the US Constitution. I'll ask you this: If we wait until he (Obama) has "abused this power" is it not then to late? How to stop it when those who try become a terrorist, guilty of treason for their opposition to the "president's" policies?
I am amazed that this isn't creating a howl of outrage from both right and left. Dubya was tied to the proverbial whipping post for wanting to listen in on suspected terrorist phone calls; Obama implements a policy of "just cap 'em" - and gets a pass. Whats wrong with this picture?
BuzzKill:
http://http://commonamericanjournal.com/?p=16862
I'm asking you folks to watch the video, and ask yourselves: Why are they doing this?
Stonewall:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---The target they're referring to is Anwar Al-Awlaki. The ACLU would have a valid point if all this guy did was talk. The problem is he's done a lot more than that. Obama made a hard call but it's most likely the right one. It might make him a martyr but such a charismatic personality who speaks English so well will likely be difficult to replace.
--- End quote ---
We have tied our hands behind our backs to such an extent that I think Obama should cave on this thing.
What exactly are we fighting?
They are opening a mosque at ground zero, the date is September 11, 2011. That is the grand opening. I don't know why they picked that date... it's a mystery. Well, everything with Islam is a mystery... because it would be hateful to actually understand Islam. And, we can't do the hateful thing. Islam is a peaceful thing... I think. Can I say that? I don't want to hurt Leftist sensibilities here... after all Muslims share the Leftist hatred of America.
Regardless of that, it's wrong to target an American without first charging him with Treason.
ajax13:
This guy didn't like leftists and he thought fighter planes were neat, too.
"In the German state, I was the chief opponent of Communism. I admit freely and proudly that it was I who created the first concentration camps in order to put Communists in them."
"Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Reichsmarschall Hermann Wilhelm Göring (12 January 1893 – 15 October 1946) Nazi founder of the Gestapo, Head of the Luftwaffe
Stonewall:
--- Quote from: "ajax13" ---This guy didn't like leftists and he thought fighter planes were neat, too.
"In the German state, I was the chief opponent of Communism. I admit freely and proudly that it was I who created the first concentration camps in order to put Communists in them."
"Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Reichsmarschall Hermann Wilhelm Göring (12 January 1893 – 15 October 1946) Nazi founder of the Gestapo, Head of the Luftwaffe
--- End quote ---
Fighter planes are "neat".
Leftists... what is not to love?
Your quote... Ahh, War is bad? Is that the jest of it? Or, are you saying that parroting of political leaders is the way to go?
That is the danger in posting quotes. Others have to wonder what you actually believe. It's so much easier to just put in your own words what you want to say.
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